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He's real non-existent. |
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Tibbar, why do you feel I'm putting down god when I answer I think he is non-existant? firstly, I am answering the question. secondly, it is my belief he does not exist. I do not mean anything with it. there is no reason why you should take that personally. I am entitled to my belief/non-belief. |
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plus you can't put down something that doesn't exist, right guys?!?!? |
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edible |
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9. imagined 10. non-existent so obviously, all preceding questions are moot and need no answer. |
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001 / hmm. i find it peculiar that the existence of evil (however one chooses to define it) serves as a means of negating the existence of god. 002 / if god is to be viewed as the source of all of creation (ie. the principal factor which brought the universe into being), it therefore must be accepted that it equally entails both what we have come to define as good as well as evil. existence in and of itself entails a paradox, because by the virtue of logic, in order for anything to be, to exist, there must also be the opposite of such a state - ie. non-existence. in the same way, all things have an opposite. god is all of the things you make it and none of those things all the same. 003 / another point to be raised is that it is not necessary for one to adhere to the traditional christian view of god as a force/being external to us in order to accept its existence - one only needs to realize that the universe as a whole comprises of god - and thus god is a reflection of us just as much as we are a reflection of god. |
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11) Is a benign, supreme being, who is not without a sense of irony. |
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One can as easily criticize fiction as fact, or so book reviews have led me to believe. |
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but you do not criticize characters in a book themselves (as if they are real) - you criticize how they were written. |
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"I just find it interesting that the people who said "real" also put "non-existent" Huh?" > maybe it means that he really exists in some way, but not in a concrete way? that the concept of god is real, but god itself is non-existant? |
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i wonder if religion does/have done more harm or more good... : / |
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Precisely. |
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i usually don't read these QUASI religion threads because of the infighting and crap that people feel the need to say to others because their beliefs don't co-inside with someone elses.....HOWEVER this REALLY gave me chills : fleetmouse wrote: "Those of us who aren't superstitious are annoyed and dismayed that you benighted folks will mutilate your children's genitals, start wars and legislate irational social policy all on the basis of what you believe the invisible pink unicorn in the sky is telling you." "If all you did was keep to yourself and go in the basement and chant and drive nails through your dicks or whatever it is you feel the need to do, we wouldn't have a problem with it at all." i'm glad i've never met in REAL life someone who thinks like this, cos if i did, i'd RUN in the opposite direction....i have to say how disappointed i am to know people think and FEEL this way about anothers belief system! and they say christians are wack.....hummmmmm |
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I stand by everything I've said. HAIL SATAN! |
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HAIL FLEETMOUSE! |
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Uzim's got it. When you praise Satan, you're really praising all that is good and noble and glorious about yourself. |
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satan is a rockstar. |
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HAIL PACHI'S CUTE MONKEY TOO!!! |
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and the topless anime chick!! |
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"Everybody knows all the best bands are affiliated with Satan." -Bart Simpson |
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Religion mostly does harm but a true relationship with Christ always does good. The two are not synonomous. |
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There is no god. Everything is cause and effect. |
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A relationship with Christ appeals to alcoholics and drug addicts. That fact doesn't encourage me any... |
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manticore: I think you made some interesting points. I would like to offer some feedback on those points. As Christians we do not believe that God is himself both good and evil simply because there is good and evil in the universe. We believe that God has created the potential for evil in order to give his creations free will, but does not cause them to perform evil. A Calvinist would disagree on this point, however. I also suggest you reconsider the statement that in order for anything to exist there must also be non-existance. I would say that for anything that exists there would be the potential for it to not exist and for anything that does not exist there would be the potential for it to exist, especially if one allows for infinite possibilities not based solely on ones experience .. ie just because I have never experienced a purple winged elephant does not mean that one could not potentially exist. Also nothing can exist and not exist at the same time, in other words before my birth I did not exist and after my death I will not exist but while I do exist it is impossible for me to simeltaneously not exist. I have more on to say on this but I have to leave right this second .. bbiab. |
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y'all talkin bout jesus? |
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Hail Clement Vagina!!! |
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Well, we could lock you in a Schrodinger's Cat like situation, then for all intents and purposes, for us, you might only 50% exist. And in a divergant model of the universe, where each possible reality breaks off into its own, you would experience quantum immortality. |
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Pah, good and evil are abstract human concepts, not some kind of entity that was created. |
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50%? |
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Excuse me, I must correct myself. Replace "divergant model of the universe" with "the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics" |
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god is a pole |
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and this pole lies where? |
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God is a ficticious means of hope that the weak use to hide from their problems or hide from their fate. There is no god, you fools. "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" -- Epicurus Clearly, Epicurus was far ahead of his time. And I also agree with fleetmouse.. I fucking hate how Christians are always trying to convert people. That's like me telling them to become atheist, which, although is a good plan (because everyone should be since there IS NO GOD), it is a plan that doesn't work too well in practice. One time my ex-girlfriend and I were having a romantic evening at the beach when two fucking christians (in jesus sandles, of course) came up to us and started trying to press their bullshit beliefs on us, and gee willackers they even had a pamphlet. A pamphlet! When thousands of years of genocidal crusading and all else fails, turn to the pamphlet.... Brilliant. |
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god hates to ball |
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I don't mind they try to convert, I will just call them idiots, and maybe try to convert them to aetheism. |
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"It is as useless to argue with those that have renounced the use and authority of reason as to argue with the dead." -- Thomas Paine |
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...nothing. Note, I did not say non-existant, just that the God thing's existance is not defined by a or any THING. |
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