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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2003-06-10 10:39 [#00734915]
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Conceptually I do not know which is worse. Their initial selling out with albums like the Black one, Load and Reload. Or this 'return to heavy metal' that sounds completely tired, drawn out and like 20 bands that are either old, not metallica or plastered on the radio.
I find this album extremely laughable. Download it just because they hate it.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-10 10:40 [#00734918]
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i quite like it
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-06-10 10:40 [#00734920]
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I HATE METALLICA!
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-06-10 10:42 [#00734924]
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ha
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-06-10 10:42 [#00734928]
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ONCE YOU SELL-OUT, YOU CANT GO BACK
and they did sell out after the "...and justice for all" cd
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2003-06-10 10:44 [#00734936]
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I grew up on their earlier shit. Puppets is for sure my favorite album. Maybe that's why I get so annoyed when I hear "fuck it all and no regrets" in St. Anger the song... those lyrics belong in Damage, Inc. - that;'s where they belong....
Hetfield's voice is shit.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-10 10:44 [#00734938]
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i know people dislike them now, but they were metal pioneers. It's the same as people's attitude towards Oasis. When they came out everybody was like "wow, great band!", now they say"Shit has-beens." I hate it when people follow trends. Music is music. I don't think Metallica have sold out at all. The only thing they will be selling out is their concert tickets.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-10 10:44 [#00734939]
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i hate them
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-10 10:48 [#00734950]
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if people don't like them, there is a simple solution. don't listen to them!
whats the point of discussing music you dont enjoy. where is the gain in that?
I once came across a website by a guy that analyses every Pink Floyd album, ripping them apart and saying how crap they were. This sad idiot devoted a whole website saying how much he hated a band. What is the point?
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2003-06-10 10:49 [#00734955]
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Getting Bon Jovi's producer and writing the album in the studio is not a valid strategy for selling out...
you're right And it all does sound very inventive and unlike anything else on the radio...
i wish i had noticed that before My last concert ticket was from the Wherever I May Roam Tour, that was the last album I payed for as well.
"Yeah, we sold out, we sold out every seat to every show we play." -Newkid who quit for some reason...
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-06-10 10:49 [#00734956]
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i might like theirr music though.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-10 10:51 [#00734961]
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from what i heard i thought it sucked
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-10 10:51 [#00734965]
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i wasn't saying that. and where do you want them to write the album? in a treehouse. And Iraqi desert. A hang-glider factory carpark? Those are the places I get inspired
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2003-06-10 10:52 [#00734971]
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I listen to them because the irony is so thick. And like I said it is very laughable. That's just the problem... I'm laughing, laughing at them and not with them 'coz they are way too serious with their image and all that....
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-10 10:54 [#00734975]
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fair dos. you go your way, and i`ll go mine pal....
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2003-06-10 10:57 [#00734985]
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If I was a nerd with no life and alot of time on my hands I would chop up Helmet and Soulfly songs and Nine Inch Nails beats and then construct a 'St. Anger Remix' album. Did Lars go to Helmet's drunner's house and steal his snare for this album or what?
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-10 11:00 [#00734989]
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ya know, for someone that hates the album, you sure have been analysing it a lot.. A think you forget that Metallica are a primary influence on these bands
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2003-06-10 11:00 [#00734992]
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i saw them live on mtv and i liked it a lot.
i dont think they sold out, because they only do what they always did. music.
im not so familiar with metallica, but though i dont like the new video for its new style (stupid voice solo),
i still think they just dont know better.
maybe someone told em to do it this way and they werent smart enough to continue like they usually do.
but who doesnt want to keep in touch with time?
in general i would say, most bands do 3-6 good albums and then begin to suck.
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-10 11:07 [#00735004]
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i've seen the video and heard the st anger single a few times.
i'm starting to like it. i kinda always liked metallica, but not enough to spend my money on any of their albums, y'know.
i'm gonna grab a copy of this from a friend, and if its good, i might buy it.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-10 11:23 [#00735030]
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AT LEAST THE NAME IS HARD AND AWESOME
:HELLA AIR GUITAR SOLOZZZZ!!!!111:
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2003-06-10 11:32 [#00735045]
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Metallica influenced everyone from Primus to Slipknot... regardless the shit on the radio where half the bands' singers try to sound like Lane Stayley of Alice In Chains.. whatever... I think I'd like it if they would of got a singer.. someone who isn't three quarters def literally....
I might go out on a limb and quess you might be a little younger than me...
back in the day music snobs said Tchaikowski's Overture of 1912 was pretentious bullshite
so... I hope as a musician I die young or disappear before I get old and can't lead the pack anymore like Betty Page or some shit
I mean come on, do you honestly believe they could still write an 8 minute instrumental that would keep your attention like Orion did?
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-11 11:35 [#00736622]
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thought that mtv gig sucked, actually. that weird bassplayer was good for a few laughs but on the whole it was a bit uninspired. they seem to be trying to add some difficult structures to their songs (a la tool) but the textures are blatantly nu-metal. sorry to say 'one' was the highlight of the performance for me
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-06-11 11:37 [#00736626]
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i used to listen to metallica, not because everyone else did, but because i liked them. then i found slayer. yay for satan!
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-06-11 11:38 [#00736627]
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but seriously, that new song sounded intriguing, i think i'll go download it from not napster
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-06-11 11:42 [#00736632]
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The Stones of their generation... from Master of Puppets to St. Anger... from Exile on Main Street to Dirty Work. Brutal.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-06-11 12:04 [#00736661]
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i havent heard a single note from st anger, i want to hear it badly just because everyone hates it. haha
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-06-11 12:15 [#00736681]
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just because you don't like a song or album, or even because it's popular, or sounds popular, doesn't mean they've sold out... that term, "sold out" is one of the most annoying things I see... just gets on my nerves... how do you know? How do you know their intentions?
hell, I ain't even a big Metallica fan...
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2003-06-11 12:17 [#00736684]
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Give me some Pantera "Fucking Hostile" over Metallicas gargage any day of the week. For gods sake I've never "clicked" with their style, but why do they have to keep putting out crap, just retire and live off your fame.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-11 12:17 [#00736686]
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Heard it for the first time at the weekend at a rock society picnic. As someone there poited out, it sounds like nu-metal without the clean crisp sound and production usually associated with that genre.
I'm not a big metallica fan and only like a few tracks by them anyway, but this did strike me as a weak album.
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2003-06-11 12:18 [#00736688]
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gargage = garbage hehe.. try saying gargage
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-06-11 12:19 [#00736692]
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It made me listen to Master of Puppets and Justice for All back to back... now THAT was some great listening. Thanks, St. Anger.
(although really, I don't think it's the travesty a lot of people are saying, it's just not very good)
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-06-11 12:20 [#00736694]
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selling out is when you change your style or sound for the purpose of earning more money.
You can change all you want, and adapt, and rap on your songs. If that is what you want to do, then who are we to say that's bad?
If it sounds bad, that is one thing, but is it selling out? Not if that is what they really wanted to do. If it's cuz it's popular to rap on songs, and they will push more units, THAT is selling out.
I don't think they sold out their music, maybe their image, but what's the point anymore, they're rich and their music's stale, Next!
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OK
on 2003-06-11 15:44 [#00736854]
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all i know is that their new disc sounds like the some kids who just got toghether to start a band and play incoherent riffs and licks.
or maybe i'm missing something.. maybe with more listens i'll discover what they were trying to do now...
but i don't think that's likely
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-11 16:08 [#00736886]
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haha great ow but i take you mean 'overture 1812' :)
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-06-11 16:55 [#00736936]
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lars overuses the piccolo snare, (ithink) anyway that unique snare popping sound is annoying after awhile
garbaje pals much?
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-06-11 18:44 [#00737009]
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he didn't use a piccolo snare before though.. he had some big, tall, dumb huge custom model one with stupid metal grill shit all over it..
he must have switched to sound more nu-metal-y..
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-11 18:55 [#00737016]
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oh COME ON!
Oasis were shit from the VERY BEGINNING.
I hated them from go.
nothing original, nothing special BUT huge ego's. that irritates.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-11 18:58 [#00737018]
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Metallica has lost touch with thier roots They are old married losers with kids who cant rock anymore but they try to anyway.
Oasis = shit
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-11 19:01 [#00737020]
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Funny though, I liked both those bands (more metallica than oasis... way more) but that was back when I was too young to know anything about music. But seriously Metallica died around Load/Reload. They churned out like 3 decent tracks between those 2 albums.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-06-11 19:13 [#00737030]
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music snobs
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-06-11 19:18 [#00737033]
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MASTER!!! MASTER!!!! Master of puppets I'm pulling your strings.....
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-06-11 20:29 [#00737116]
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lol
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2003-06-11 23:27 [#00737259]
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ok... Metallica didn't sell out they just got bored being innovative and setting standards for progressive metal
at least Anthrax sampled them right next Sam Kinneson on their I'm The Man single....
at least we have those days to remember, eh?
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2003-06-12 10:19 [#00737890]
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Lars' snare on this album is the most annoying snare I've ever heard. Every time he hits it, it's like PAAAAAAANNNNNGGGGG. Plus there are no guitar solos, and Hetfield sounds like he's not even trying anymore, vocally and lyrically.
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aneurySm
from Ypsilanti (United States) on 2003-06-12 11:38 [#00738018]
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he stole that snare from Helmet ever listen to Helmet he stole that snare from Helmet
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-06-12 11:49 [#00738046]
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lets not forge that the snare he uses is about $1500. HE PAID GOOD MONEY TO GET THAT SOUND! :D
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rF
from __e____e_________e______q_____ (Australia) on 2003-06-12 12:53 [#00738157]
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yeah i downloaded a few bits of tracks, what the hell is with those drums? in the title track in the mellow bit its like pum pum PAAAAOOOWWW pum pum PAAAAOOOWWW .. and the guitars sound like they're straight out of a korn track from life is peachy.. all muddy and sloppy sounding.. although dirty window isn't bad.. except for the quiet parts..
i also really liked load and reload.. especially the bluesy tracks on load.. but justice and puppets were their peak in my opinion..
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-06-12 15:27 [#00738383]
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The bluesy tracks, exactly... I actually LIKED that... people were saying they ''sold out'', but really, if Metallica wanted to sell more units, making their music BLUESIER wasn't gonna do it.
They just saw the haircuts and cast judgement on their well groomed heads. ''YUORE NOT METAL ANEEMOR!1''
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