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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-06 08:48 [#00729711]
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Why the hell does everyone think Draft 7.30 is more accessible, and mainly more MELODIC then Confield? I really don't get it.
I find Confield engaging and beautiful, and full of melody. Track 1 has the nicest tune ever (over the weird panpot-noise stuff) Cfern has a really weird and long dark melody over the fucked 6/8 beats, track 3 has an awsome melody trying to break through the percussion....then there's the more accesible melodies on track 6, and the most beautiful stuff is reserved for the second las track-some lovely, obvious melodies hanging in the backround there.
Draft, howver, is another story. Though I admit it's technically frickin' amazing (especially some of those beats!)...imo, there is nowhere near the melodic quality of Confield overall. Yes, there are SNIPPETS of melody on some of the tracks, and some tuneful stuff on tracks 3,5, and 10...but overall, it's far less melodic then Confield. Why does everyone think that Draft is easier and more melodic? It's blatantly not. The end.
:)
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-06-06 08:51 [#00729716]
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There have already been about a 100 discussins about draft, use the search function and you will find out everyone's opinion on the subject.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-06 08:53 [#00729720]
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Yeah, and everyone there said that Draft was more melodic and accesible. I happened to be offline during that period and couldn't discuss it then. So I am now. Teee hehehehe.
Oh, and buy the new Zelda everyone!
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-06-06 08:53 [#00729721]
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melodic is the last word i'd use for either record
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-06-06 08:55 [#00729727]
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i like draft a bit more than confield, but i cant give specific reasons eg better melody....
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-06 08:55 [#00729733]
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OK, so niether are particularly melodic at all (I'd rather if BOTH had more melody)
But EVERYONE agreed a while ago that Draft was there most melodic form a while, and that's simply not true IMO....you're all blind to Confield's supeior melodies!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-06-06 10:34 [#00729895]
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confield is very melodic in my opinion... and really not that difficult... the first three songs, Pen Expers in particular, have gorgeous melodies... then there is Eidetic Cassien (sp?), Uviol... Parhelic Triangle has a nice one too... it's a great album!
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-06 10:42 [#00729914]
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Exactly!
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2003-06-06 16:10 [#00730186]
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6ie.cr has a very nice melody I'd say. The one that sounds like a violin and a flute.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-06-06 16:38 [#00730207]
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i've never really understood why people didn't find confield melodic... all you had to do was listen to it a hundred times over... and the melodies all would hand bare for your enjoyment
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-06-06 16:44 [#00730210]
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hand=hang... bleh
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-06 16:45 [#00730212]
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i so totally agree with you!
i had 5 hugely unpleasant listenings to confield before i sold it to scary bear
oh well beauty is in the eye of the beholder (or ear of the listener)
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-06 18:17 [#00730322]
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I mentioned 6ie.cr having a lovely melody.
But there's still more melodious stuff on Confield.
imo, their best melody ever is in the second half of Cipater-now THAT's a great melody.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-06 18:18 [#00730324]
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you can't hear the melody in TAPR?
thats insane.
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cx
from Norway on 2003-06-06 19:00 [#00730337]
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i find draft boring. i mean 6ie.cr is cool the first two minutes but then it just gets repetitive, same with vl al and p:ntil.
the rest is just boring.
like the "melody" that comes in halfway through xylin room, i remember i got really surprised and i digged it, but now it just doesnt do it anymore.
with confield and alot of their other stuff it's a whole different sotry though.
it never gets old, at least not for me. i can listen to the envane ep god knows how many timesin a row.
and confield.. uviol.. it's just beautiful, the beat on pen expers is kinda lame tho, although i thoroughly appreciate it as one of the best tracks on the cd.
i dunno, confield just doesnt get boring.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-06-06 21:59 [#00730389]
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Pen Expers is like one of the most beautiful pieces of music I've ever heard... at least in recent memory... it's funny, because my sister gets so stressed out when I play it, she can't stand it at all... and I'm sure all my friends would hate it, and call it noise... it's just gorgeous to me, absolutely beautiful!! Definitely the most amazing thing I've heard from Autechre...
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-06-06 22:04 [#00730396]
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i actually like Draft 7.30 more than when i first bought it.
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nacmat
on 2003-06-07 05:22 [#00730537]
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ok after more than a year with confield at home I must say I love it... I think its a masterpiece such as music is rotted one note or saw II...
for draft 7.30 is still too soon for me to make a deep review... but I like it a lot too... sometimes I feel its softer than confield.... but maybe its just that confield made the field easier for this one...
which of both is more melodic??... I dont know... both seem to get to my deepest soul (if I have it)
in confield I can see some kind of metallic structure holding it all... here in draft I cant see such structure... its more like a massic being
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-07 05:41 [#00730541]
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I am finding Draft was instantly likeable, but I am getting bored with it. And the melodies aren't up there with Confield.
When I first heard Confield, I thought it was ok, but nothing special. However, soon enough it became one of my favorite albums, ever. (Apart from track 4, which is a load of wank imho)
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-06-07 07:29 [#00730589]
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Confield is much more "poppy" then draft 7.30 to me... draft is a lot harder because it's focus seems to be on the beats... whereas Confield in my eyes is maybe an equal focus on melody and beats...
heh, and I chose to use the word poppy to maybe spark some arguements on this! :)
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-07 14:49 [#00730933]
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poppy? lol.
Whatever it is, it's more enjoyable then Draft! ^^
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-07 18:11 [#00731095]
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put draft 7.30 on in my mates conservatory, which is totally empty apart from a massive fucking stereo... dunno whether it was the acoustics or the ganja or both but it made total sense.
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FLUX
on 2003-06-07 18:41 [#00731135]
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My Skirt is more melodic than my pants. But my undies are less melodic than my Jammies. So that makes Draft my skirt or my jammies, I wonder??
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-07 19:46 [#00731228]
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you have a bag over your head.
does this obscure your vision, I wonder??
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FLUX
on 2003-06-07 20:14 [#00731242]
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You have a picture of Gary Olman as your avatar, does that result in identity crisis, personality confilicts, I wonder??
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-07 20:17 [#00731244]
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nah.
obscures my vision, though.
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FLUX
on 2003-06-07 20:32 [#00731256]
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Yeah, thats the reddest pair of orbs I have seen.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-07 20:34 [#00731259]
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nice bag, btw.
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FLUX
on 2003-06-07 20:46 [#00731266]
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I like my bag.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-06-07 20:48 [#00731271]
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lets face it, Confield is a pop album!! I think Brittney Spears is doing a cover of bine on her next album!!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-07 20:50 [#00731273]
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does it obscure your vision, I wonder??
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