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That makes me resist thier music. I think it's the sounds. With almost all other "IDM" I visualize the music by associating a picture to every sound, and I just cant seem to do that with plaid. All I see in my head is two guys making goofy tracks that don't hold together very well. I've listened to Double Figure many times in the last few days,i t seems like there are lots of good parts but no really good songs...maybe like my begginings with Autechre, I'm just "not getting" the music |
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I love them... what can I say? I think you should start kind of a journey through their music start with trainer then not for threes then rest proof clockwork then double figure and finally p-brane whey this? you will understand that they are great, but in a diferent way... they seem to look for nice sounds... not difficult, kind of very pop oriented idm... their melodies are the easiest to find... the most mellow idm maybe out of the big 6 sometimes they seem to follow autechre... but in the soft melody candy way |
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There is something about Plaid that makes me love thir music probably more than any other (with the possible exception of Ae, on occassion) electronic artist making their music. They examplify the height of creativity in making good techno (in the true detroit spirit of the word) that is incredibly complex while remaining extremely listenable. Thats an extremely difficult thing to do and very few bands manage to do that. To me Ae/Plaid/Black Dog/Coil occupy the same spot of unabashed admiration. |
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a bit too light n fluffy for me. I like their melodies and percusson but a lot of it just turns to fluff too soon. Great live on the Warp buss tour though... fucking brilliant. (that was after their Double Figure tour, which was crappola) |
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I cant really understand how people dont see their great evolution in their sound... they are last in the current poll on that matter... I mean, they evolved much more than boc for sure this doesnt mean they are better (for emthey are though) but look at bocs first and last release... then do the same with plaid... the answer is obvious |
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i know what you mean, i have double figure and whenever i try to listen to any song i just cant concentrate and never make it to the end of a track...they just dont have any edge or point to them...like they are missing something very important but i cant tell what...they dont seem to have any imagination all the tracks seem to go nowhere...perhaps people like them for emotion, i always find it hard finding emotion in any artist.... |
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The beats, I admit are not avante-garde like Ae...they are in the true techno traditions...they are not meant to overwhelm or to engage like Ae does. As Derrick May once said...when he starts out on a track, he does not even start out with the beat, but starts on the strings and places the drums on at the end. The drums of techno are more about criss-crossing, dense polyrhythms than straightforward groove. Just listen to the chattering hi-hats on a Black Dog track..or even the rhythm section on something like Abla Edio. Plaid are masters at creating superbly dense techno tracks...and they have only gotten better with time. And those melodies....killer melodies...A melody does not have to be a minor key atonal sequence to be great. As Arnold Schoenberg himself said, 'there is still a lot of great music to be written in the key of C'. And Plaid prove that to be true. I don't know why I am explaining it to you. If you don't get the magic of Plaid once...you never will. It is kind of like the Boards Of Canada thing. Either you get it or you don't. But if you do, boy oh boy, are you in for a ride or what. |
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yeeees i agreee...... ...it is special way of it - you must listen to Plaid like child , just watch artworks , feel the music like child , dont try to understand it... ....but it's true....if yoiu not get it now - you will never will :)()( |
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Plaid got my vote on that poll...as my mate once said to me with a tear in his eye (I thought) "They just make beautiful music merg!" :-) |
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Their beats rock, as do their chooons! For me the best thing about them is their variety...anyone imagine Ae doing something beautiful these days? LMAO! |
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plaid are so great i never bothered checking them... but AlbertoBalsam told me to dl rest proof clockwork... and its so sweet! the part where dang spot suddenly changes mmmm |
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plaid > ae :) |
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Awright....just cause I love Plaid...don't mean you get to diss Ae in front of me. So fine their last release was kinda, how do I put this, boring? Ae are just as amazing as Plaid in their own way. It is just so sad how so many people that love one cannot see the other. Sorry if that came acrossa as a bit hard. I am kinda terribly fond of both o them. Now if you wanted to take the piss out of that Aphex guy... :P |
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I don't dislike Ae at all, I just think it's sooo obvious that their early stuff is about 34234 times better than their later stuff that's all! Have you often come across Plaid fans disliking Ae and vice versa then? |
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mr. McBob put it very nicely. plaid have no edge, no intensity. which makes that their music bores me more quickly. btw, draft 7.30 is filled with melody, even easier to hear then on confield. |
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ae are so much better than plaid will ever be. i do like plaid but you can't even compare them to autechre. and merg, new ae is by no means any worse than the early stuff. |
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I prefer autechre... but I love plaid draft is very emotional too its not about emotions... plaid is just more pop... but in the best way... in a lovely way |
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black dog were better. |
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Well, I guess the posts between yours and my present one should answer that question. :) Sadly enough, yes. |
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Plaid could have more edge IMO, but after listening to a lot of other "harder" electronic music, Plaid is great to relax to. |
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ae's new stuff is better than their old.....and there is so much relaxing idm already, plaid are unnesseccary for me.... |
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plaid rock |
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yeah, they really do! But I think Double Figure is kind of a weak point in their career. Haters should check out their earlier records if you haven´t already. I rcently listened to Not For Threes for the first time in ages and realised how fucking strong an album that is. |
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i agree nacmat, if you include their black dog stuff, they have evolved in quality quite a bit. they didn't get my vote in the poll but it was a close decision. over all i think ae have progressed more in a technical aspect as well as in general song writing. as for plaid, my favorite album is Rest Proof Clockwork. its the one that initially hooked me on their unique melodic style. I'd say its a little more accessible than Double Figure as well. |
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plaid is awesome. I really must buy more of their albums. (can't find them in any store though :-( I'm gonna have to order). I only have Rest Proof Clockwork and P-Brane... but i very much prefer them over my autechre-collection. If my house was on fire and i could only bring two cd's... it'd be byebye Chiastic Slide & Confield ;-) (my favourite ae-albums). I just love plaid so much! It's in their melodies, yes... but also the amount of joy and liveliness that is in all of their tracks. You can just hear they're having alot of fun themselves... it sounds more like a band having a jam-session, than two nerds behind their laptops. Doesn't mean there's anything wrong with autechre... i love autechre aswell (lord knows why these two bands are being compared in this thread though... they are so different). But plaid is just... even better :-) Only BoC can compare... maybe. |
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I think they make nice music. |
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I love 'em. They are kind of where "IDM" and "electronica" meet. They are a great mix of Orbital and AE. They got my vote. |
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That's a real shame that you are unable to get into Plaid. I might be one of the few on this board, but I feel that Plaid are the best artist currently on the Warp roster. |
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i bought trainer and was really disappointed. i like the tracks abla eedio and object orient, so what else might i like? |
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"i bought trainer and was really disappointed. i like the tracks abla eedio and object orient, so what else might i like?" I didn't like "trainer" much either. Try "not for threes" or "Rustproof Clock" |
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"Rustproof Clock" ???????????????? |
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no wonder names get phuqued up on soulseek ;) |
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"no wonder names get phuqued up on soulseek ;)" oops! I mean "Rest Proof Clockwork". Its been a looooooong day. |
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i love plaid... my fav. is "new family".. the video for it is just as beautiful |
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I just bought parts in the post... so far it sounds beautiful I ve got: not for threes rest proof clockwork trainer double figure p- brane parts in the post what am I missing that is possible to get on cd?? |
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