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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-06 08:15 [#00729677]
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"And the end with the sentinels... well, im pretty confident
that the real world is just another level of the matrix... all designed to control man. "
My thoughts exactly.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-06-06 08:29 [#00729682]
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Zeus... *spoiler*
the Architect scene was interesting alright, but wasn´t good enough. What about the way he shows you scenes from matrix1 on his wall of TVs... if you look closely, you see the scene with Neo out of his pod. Surely this completely points to the Matrix within a matrix idea, which is confirmed by Neo zapping the thingies at the end? A thin plotline therefore
Thats why he ditches humanity too... he knows they´re nonexistent as well, like himself. The story is still clever but its the way they thread it out - the crap acting, boring action, wooden characters, silly sets. Its doesn´t flow ... it doesn´t have the movie magic. I don´t blame hype at all as i kind of disliked Matrix 1 once i saw it again on video. again the story is sound but they just get all gratuitous on us. Subtlety and psychological combat would have worked with this much better - no wirey, CGI crap.
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vamason
from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-06-06 11:47 [#00729954]
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the matrix reloaded definitely sucked ass... it tried to be deep and failed
what the hell was with the freakin' rave/orgy? it made me WANT zion to be destroyed, for why should these sick bastards live?
i think the third one should just be Ted (from Bill & Ted's...) waking up with a video game controller in his hands and him saying "whoa"... that would be great
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-06-06 11:49 [#00729955]
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lol!
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-06 11:54 [#00729965]
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i think the matrix reloaded does deserve credit for the fact that it went on this long without a story at all. i was so scared at the end with the little gathering and all that it wasn't over yet and we'd have another half hour of utter crapness. i was especially amazed by the zion (or is it babylon?) orgy/houseparty sequence with the dance music and all. i didn't go to the cinema to watch fucking mtv.
some of the action scenes were ok, tho. agent smith sort of saved the day. "me too", nice one.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-06-06 17:55 [#00730294]
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I think there is a lot more to be revealed about the architect in the final episode. I suspect a lot of what he told neo was not true. Remember, "there is a difference between knowing the path, and walking the path." Neo is a wooden character with an inability to make decisions on his own. his only responsibility is to understand the choices that have been made for him. So basically he is a self-concious cog in a wheel.
So whether people liked the movie or not, i think it is still to early to make harsh judgements about plot. I understand if you don't like the special effects, fight scenes, etc.. thats just the frosting. but as the layers are peeled back i think all three movies will just get better. at least the story part.
lucky for me, i liked the cake AND the frosting. For all of you who felt you got cheated out of your money, you can take comfort in the fact that I got more than my money's worth so it all kinda evens out.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-06-06 18:01 [#00730309]
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ha ha
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-15 06:26 [#00779366]
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R2 DVD will be released in October at a price of *£26.99*.
I was one of the few who actually enjoyed the film despite it's obvious flaws, but at that price they can fuck right off.
Something tells me Americans won't be paying $45 for that DVD.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-15 07:36 [#00779468]
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FLAMING CARROT!!!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-15 07:46 [#00779483]
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man that film is a big steaming turd.
nothing, I mean NOTHING happens during 2 hours to progress the story ONE LITTLE BIT! only in the last 15 minutes is there some movement.
and all the hacknied philosophical debates crammed into unconvincing dialogue.. ugh. that is sooooo bad. don't TALK about it, give it form, SHOW me.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-15 07:59 [#00779504]
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i hope in matrix 3 he kills people by drinking gasoline and then eating a match on fire when they're all around him
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-07-15 08:00 [#00779505]
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just out of currioustiy; where are you getting your information from? do you have a link? i can't find prices on amazon.
if the third one is any good i'll wait til' they offer them all in a boxed set and get that. it'll prolly ship with all kinds of extra goodies anyways.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-15 08:18 [#00779541]
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Warner Video press release.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-15 08:21 [#00779543]
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Yes it is a crap film, all the stupid cultural references. I mean the kung fu was bad enough but then the Africanised tribal dancing in the cave. Stupid Larry fishburn about 57 stone wearing a gurdle. No real plot...he mut have killed about 3 million people when he 'flew' to save Trinity's life. It was wank.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-15 08:21 [#00779544]
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Even the Carina Nebula thinks it's a rip-off.
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-07-15 08:23 [#00779547]
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gottalink?
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-15 08:28 [#00779557]
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hahaha :D
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-15 08:30 [#00779560]
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lol!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-15 10:39 [#00779760]
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ha ha
"This Carina sub-cloud is particularly striking partly because its clear definition stimulates the human imagination (e.g. it could be perceived as a superhero flying through a cloud, arm up, with a saved person in tow below)."
yeh yeh yeh
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soze
from Kingston (Jamaica) on 2003-07-15 11:52 [#00779894]
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Much better than Matrix 2:
The Animatrix DVD!
Really really good, some really great little shorts in there, beautiful images, good concepts, interesting back story for the Matrix world. I was not a huge fan of either the first or the second Matrix movies but I am a big fan of this collection, one of the best things I've seen in a while.
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