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does anyone reckon warp will eventually get so big that they'll be able to payola their way into the MTV Top 40?!? will there ever be a time when we'll be hearing/seeing, say, ae or squarepusher on constant rotation in the american massmedia? will warp sooner or later go the way of similarly idealistically minded labels of the 60s (say, electra, virgin, etc.) and grow so large that they will lose their quality control and start churning out Top 40 IDM for cash?!? this is all theoretical and speculative at this point, but any thoughts on the possibility of the above ever happening? |
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I doubt it. But music like what Warp turns out might 'pop' in centuries to come. At least I'd like to think so. |
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*might be 'pop' |
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god! The Glitch 109.7 FM - Classic IDM 24-7! as much as i like electronic music, that would just totally kill it for me! |
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just for interests sake: aphex twin singles: 1992 - digeridoo (no. 55) 1993 - on (no. 32) 1995 - ventolin (no. 49) 1996 - girl/boy (no. 64) 1997 - come to daddy (no. 36) windowlicker was no. 16 i think (thats a guess) albums: 1994 - sawII (no. 11) 1995 - classics (no. 24) 1995 - ...i care because you do (no. 24) |
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1993 - polygon window - quoth (no. 49) |
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Just because I like to, I will confirm Windowlicker WAS no. 16. |
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autechre 1994 - basscad (no. 56) their only entry into either albums or singles chart |
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huh? you sure? i heard Incunabula got quite high in the charts here. |
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some early LFO stuff charted and sold really well too didn't it dobbin? can we get some numbers on them, as well as NoW if applicable? |
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You've got one of those huge geeky chart books haven't you? :) |
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i hate this pretentious atitude about warp going top 40. if i saw autechre hitting top 40, i'd be glad for them. fair enough, if i strted hearing it on a-list radio 1 all day, i'd be kind of weirded out. i think you can hear idm's influence on some pop music these days already anyway. |
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i think it'd be kinda neat. |
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ok hold on... |
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no i don't think so, i mean maybe on day but it won't be the warp we know and love. |
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well you can forger your snobbish more underground than though attitude cos i bought lfo lfo in fucking woolworths when it ws in the top ten over 12 years ago - boc's last one went top 40 in the uk - aphex has had several top 40 hits ,,,, yeah the music's really got so much worse since artists got popular - tricky disco again in the early 1990's yeah top twenty - nightmares on wax - "yawn"... |
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i have several! :) |
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that ws before people called shit idm |
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1990 - NoW - aftermath / i'm for real (no. 38) |
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I doubt it, it just wont happen...if it does it won't be the same sort of material that will "make it" that we know right now. maybe like tamer\less original somewhat idm with vocals could be popular but...autechre being popular? right.... |
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1990 - tricky disco (no. 14) probably my favourite track on warp |
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relativley in term s of what they do - ie obtuse and difficult electronic music they are very popular . |
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selling loads of records is one thing and for people like aphex twin, autechre, etc. it is good to see them succeed in such a way because their music deserves to be heard by a wider audience BUT going all corporate-whore is quite another. that's moreso what i had in mind. does anyone think warp will ever turn into a corporate record conglomerate churning out stuff purely for profit at any point in the future? no danger of that now, mind, but who knows ... money gets in the way of ideals a lot of times. |
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I think it would be good if more styles of music got into the charts. The music is so shit today and when good record labels did manage to shift enough music they all combined in the charts making the music around more interesting and diverse. The only reason the charts are shit is because of the labels with so much money can elevate themselves like brand names over others. Why shop at kids music zone when you are exposed to warp records? If a good few record labels could influence the charts I think you would see an impact and change on music in general. The government should know that when the music of a society changes, the whole society will change. Perhaps a diverse chart would be a good thing? |
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LFO 1990 - lfo (no. 12) 1991 - we are back / nurture (no. 47) 1992 - what is house (no. 62) 1991 - frequencies (no. 42) |
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the thing is little kids like pop music, they like it coz it sounds good, they don't apprreciate music like an olderr perrson does. |
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heh - like the bit about music and society changing - remem ber the criminal justice act - the one autechre did a record against - that ws a legislation to stop lifestyles that had occured as a direct result of dance music the reason for non independents getting dominating the charts are cos of money and types of acts - independents often act as an alternative to alot of pop stuff - they have also got better distribution an d deals with major shops etc - they pay for it through pr and deals with stores and radio etc |
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warp are hardly corporate whore - they're just a succesful independent record label owned by enthusiasts. by it's nature an independent can't become a corporate conglomerate as it has to be part of a conglomerate - whiuch is a large group of companies - so your diatribe is pretty bloody empty again - i'd give it up if I were you |
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yeah that's partly true - depends what you've grown up with - elder brothers or sisters etc are a good source of palette expansion |
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Aphex Twin - DrukQs hit no. 28 on the 2001 electronic billboard charts here in the states... pretty impressive of course crap like oakenfold was closer toward the top 10 |
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I remember seeing Windowlicker on TOTP, they didn't play it but it had a little bit of the video on as they counted up the top 20. My friend called into the local radio station trying to win some competition or something and when the DJ asked what track he would like on he chose Windowlicker. The DJ just said something like 'I'll see what I can do' and didn't play it. |
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i remember the video for "On" being played on the chart show (remember that?! ) in 1993. 1st thing i got to see & hear by mr. aphex. and it was all uphill from there.... :) |
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heh. point well taken. diversifying the status quo in entertainment (be it music, film or otherwise) would indeed likely result in social change - the 60s are a prime example of this - but it's not something that the establishment would easily permit, because it would mean a dissolution of their power structure. didn't the criminal justice act actually become law? the poor raver kids in the states have to put up with much the same now, what with the anti-rave bill having been passed by congress (formerly known as the RAVE act - as in Reducing Americans' Vulnerability To Ecstacy - how about Reducing Americans' Vulnerability To Righ Wing Political Bullshit and/or Reducing Americans' Vulnerability to George Dubya Bush?!? sounds like a bill needing urgent approval by the US congress to me! american politicos are truly skilled in finding imaginary social ills so as to divert the attention of the masses from the real problems plaguing their society - poverty, racism, vast economic desparities between the rich and the poor, a shit system of welfare & healthcare, illiteracy, etc. |
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But they don't have a good choice and only tune into the charts. When I was young and first listening to the charts the most diverse thing I could find was Rednex and Minty (That's nice). Maybe a record label needs to make a BBC children's program about a house full of techno musicians smoking joints and putting dangerous things in the microwave for kicks. It would be much better then S Club 7 (Six minus the chubby ugly one that their new label didn't want). |
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HOW ABOUT A WARP BOYBAND, WITH PRETTY BOY RICHARD D. AS THE TEENAGE HEARTHROBE....! |
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so far as i can see the only reason come to daddy and windowlicker sold so well (comparitavely) is the play they received on MTV. and the fact the videos are rather eye-catching |
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I remember that, I also remember Adam and Joe pointing out that it would fast-forward but only stop at the track you didn't want on. :> |
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as for my "bloody empty diatribe", it takes some knowledge of musical history to prove otherwise. virtually all of the record labels which now constitute the BIG 5 started out as independed companies much like warp. virgin records is a perfect example of this. it was only once they began to make mass amounts of money on the things they were putting out that their artistic and creative integrity went out the window. i didn't say that warp is a corporate whore of a company - at this point they are a hugely successful independent label - but that is not to say that at some point in time, it all won't turn into the next EMI or Polygram - here's hoping it won't happen, but who knows? |
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Where could I learn more about that? I don't know which track that is either. |
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i agrree that alot of the best must has to be looked forr, but rreally when i was a kid a toy carr was good enough. |
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hehe! "bloody empty diatribe" is an aphex twin b-side! =) but seriously ... i'm just responding to a statement made in response to my earlier argument (which someone called a "bloody empty diatribe" - might make a good song title, now that i think of it - i actually use stuff like that as tracktitles, mind! i have a track called 'why are you taking my evil away?' which was from a friend of mine responding to my attempt to take away the cake he was gorging himself on when he got horribly stoned. |
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I've always been into audio since I can remember, I used to listen to ZX Spectrum Tapes on my headphones as a kid (My favourite was the Bubble Bobble beeploader) now I listen to Noise. Hmm... |
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u rr a rrare one |
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i can't do w/o the visual to go with the audio. ive spent many an hour listening to records and watching them go round and round and round.... :) has a hypnotising effect. |
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i dont wanna scare u, but windowlicker was #471 in the top750 records of all time here, it was there just between those classic top40 hits. I wasnt paying attention to it, my girlfriend put on the radio and i was slowly falling asleep on the sofa, i woke up suddenly when i heard "afx tunes" i didnt believe my ears at first time! i was amazed!! |
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top 750 compiled by who? |
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by our nr1 radio station,..choosen by the listeners between artist like bruce springsteen, prince, madonna etc |
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how queer? |
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Windowlicker was a huge hit here i think the musicvideo did the trick :) |
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keep in mind the netherlands has VPRO so they're pretty upfront with their queer musical tastes VPRO archives all their studio sessions on their site too, which is great. godspeed set is my fav, then aphex. |
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