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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-05-19 05:25 [#00705020]
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Saw it for the first time last night.
Hmmm.... a bit shit i thought. Defo over-rated anyway. Now i know the guy was supposed to have no personality and be some sort of souless all-consuming type dude, but i just didn´t buy it....he was tpp blank and while i appreciate unresolved endings in films.... this was just lame.. plus the direction was a bit lame and tv-movie-ish. Ultimately an unmemerable film.
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-19 05:26 [#00705021]
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I don't like it.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-05-19 05:26 [#00705022]
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i liked it a lot
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-05-19 05:31 [#00705028]
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his a lot better in Equilibrium
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diablo
on 2003-05-19 05:44 [#00705039]
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I thought it was really good, cracked me up quite a bit. I think it's more of an allegory (sp?) than a straight psycho flick.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-05-19 05:48 [#00705045]
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on the soulless and egocentric 80s?
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diablo
on 2003-05-19 05:51 [#00705047]
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yeah and the crimes of capitalism that are swept under the carpet
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-19 05:52 [#00705051]
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I thought it was a very good film although it doesn't compare favourably to the book ( as always ). I thought Christian Bale excelled as Bateman and the direction wasn't so flashy as to distract from the story. As a scathing indictment on 80's american capiltalism, I feel it definitely succeeded and there are many scenes in the film that i return to time and time again.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-05-19 06:00 [#00705062]
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Unless you had a Bateman narrative over the film you couldn't really succeed in getting across the psyche of these yuppies. That's where the book excels.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-19 07:33 [#00705174]
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Nothing really shocking in it though was there? I mean ok the film operated on a different level than the book by deliberately shying away from the violence, but it meant it was less of an adaption, more an interpretation of the book. Cleverly done, but not really 'American Psycho'. And the suggestive ending is fucking stupid!
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-05-19 07:45 [#00705200]
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Yep.. the sugesstive ending was crappy. As well as all that, i got a tad confused at the end. I mean.... did Bateman kill anyone or was it all in his cold head or does it even matter? in the end i didn´t really care .... it didn´t really show why the 80´s was "cold"... just tha, from one point of view, it was. Big swing!
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-19 07:48 [#00705203]
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They took something which was extremely prominent in the book - basically nobody knows who anyone else is apart from Bateman, who religiously keeps tabs on his fellow collegues - and bent it a bit to give it a surprise ending. In the book you just pass it off because his lawyer is always confusing people with someone else, and besides there are too many repercusions due to Bateman's actions for it to be all in his head. And because they changed it for the film, the part where he goes to Paul Owen's apartment makes no sense. Neither does this post probably but never mind.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-05-19 07:58 [#00705213]
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sounds like the book has it all, and they basically fucked up with the screenplay.
Im not saying i need to be sponfed every detail and i enjoy abstract, surreal stuff but, that film sucked ass.
Thanks for the insights.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-19 08:16 [#00705243]
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The ending was exactly the same as the book. the whole "my confession has been for nothing" with the "this is not an exit " sign above him. Identical. The only bit in the film that slightly jars is his diary keeping and the discovery of this. This was obviously introduced to create a sort of moral judgement on his actions. We were left with the feeling that his actions would not go unpunished.
Apart from that, I found the film to be a rather faithful retelling of the book.
And the confession to his lawyer IS the climax to the book. The whole story has been leading up to that point. Were you too busy drooling over the pornographic violence to notice??
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-05-19 08:24 [#00705255]
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yeah... the pornographic violence, i.e a couple of hookers get slashed slightly, really turned me on - it sooo got in the way of the smooth narative. Me arse. It was a hokey atampt at creating a "gratuitous yet intelligent" piece of social observance based on a popular book. FAILED.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-19 08:28 [#00705262]
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Hey man, i was referring to jarworski's comments - not yours.
But while we're on the subject - you're talking shite.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-19 08:33 [#00705266]
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Erm... no.
The ending of the book indeed has him confessing to his lawyer - followed by the taxi journey ("He's looking at me like I'm some kind of viper") and then him and the crew going out on the piss again - but the voiceover "This confession has meant nothing" occurs about halfway through the book, I don't think it's even referring to the phone call he made.
There is no climax to the book, it deliberately tails off, just like all his other books with the exception of Glamorama. The point is these people learn nothing. Or were you too busy pontificating to notice?
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-05-19 08:39 [#00705274]
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You really don't understand books, do you? You're obviously not a published author, like what i am.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-19 08:45 [#00705286]
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I should've guessed you were in the writing game from your exquisite grammar skills!
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-05-19 08:50 [#00705292]
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i liked the movie a lot. i like it more every time i watch it. not to be taken literally at all.
never read the book; need to.
billy boi just moved up 1/7th of a notch on the coolness scale.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-19 08:55 [#00705300]
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By the way if anyone wants to go and read Glamorama (great book, some excellent writing, sex scenes and a Bateman cameo) and tell me what the fuck the ending is all about then I'd be very happy. Ta.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-05-19 09:04 [#00705315]
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watch it as a dark comedy as opposed to a horror film, and it will more than likely strike you as a great flick.
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2003-05-19 09:53 [#00705382]
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i loved it. it was really sick.
how about when he killed that homeless man and his dog?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-19 09:55 [#00705384]
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Yeah the stamp he does on the dog is superb :D
The book is well over the top for violence. Fuggin awesome it is.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-05-19 10:00 [#00705391]
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gratuitous nonsence folks. The best psycho i ever fucking saw on film is the quiet guy from "Fargo".. no fuss, no shite-talk, no glee, no menace... just WHACK-THUMP....
owned! Now thats a psycho!
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steve
from chicago on 2003-05-19 10:01 [#00705394]
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It's a great flick.
American Psycho 2 on the other hand, stay away.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-20 18:20 [#00707320]
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have you seen it? the second.....i didn't think it was released.....
is it based on a novel, or just a take off from the orignal film.....looks kinda campy.....worth a gander during a matinee possibly......ehehhehe
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-05-20 18:21 [#00707324]
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It's a female lead I think =os
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-05-20 18:31 [#00707371]
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yeah the book is great. I still enjoyed the film though, which I actually saw before reading the book... B E Ellis is a good writer.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-20 18:35 [#00707381]
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yuppers ....... it's a female lead.....
*wishes christian bale would come back*
ahhahahah
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-05-20 20:06 [#00707471]
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I thought that the film was awful. It made no sense, and the whole thing about the guy listening to music as he killed was obviously a rip off of Mr. Blonde in Reservoir Dogs. The movie was shit.
I had a friend who said he loved the movie and found it very profound, and that the main character reminded him of himself... scary. 0_o' I didnt realize just HOW scary (and stupid) he was until I saw the movie.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-05-20 20:26 [#00707497]
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Worst movie I've ever seen--without doubt!
I hated it! The central character had no goal. So the plot was full of holes, because he stood to gain nothing. And if he's crazy--so what? What's with all the excersize and things? and why Huey Lewis?
Prior to having seen this P.O.S. film, i thought it was impossible to have a movie without characters, but this was pretyt damn close!
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-05-20 20:31 [#00707508]
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American Psycho kicks ass
well casted.. and the satire of the 80's is hilarious. the book is extremely gory, much worse then the movie, but if you watch it a few times and get into the whole did it happen or not theme it can get pretty interesting
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-05-20 20:32 [#00707511]
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No, it can't! It was awful! Worst direction I've ever seen! Terrible acting! And the script made no sense! What's the plot? What is the character's goal? Why does he do these things? BORING!
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listentoparka
from Fisherman's Cove (United States) on 2003-05-20 21:03 [#00707544]
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i've got to return some videos
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-05-20 21:19 [#00707560]
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:D
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steve
from chicago on 2003-05-20 22:43 [#00707672]
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I always viewed [i]American Psycho[/i] as a dark comedy.
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bogala
from NYC (United States) on 2008-01-24 16:24 [#02167199]
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I enjoyed this film. I didn't read the book and I don't have some pretentious explanation why, I just enjoyed it.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-01-24 17:05 [#02167204]
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the book is wonderful.
the starved-rat; cheese in vagina. enter rat.
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rad smiles
on 2008-01-24 17:28 [#02167206]
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def. a comedy
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cyrstal dude
from LA all day! (United States) on 2008-01-25 03:31 [#02167284]
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yeah, i hate it when people take shit like this too seriously, it's for lols!
fight club, too.
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cyrstal dude
from LA all day! (United States) on 2008-01-25 03:33 [#02167285]
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i think a lot of violence is meant to be like some stupid shit bateman saw in a horror film, and thought it would be cool to try out.
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oxygenfad
from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2008-01-25 04:43 [#02167302]
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Bad name, awesome movie. "Isn't this a treble charger song?" "No it's a Misfits song you fuck!"
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oyvinto
on 2008-01-25 05:09 [#02167313]
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great book. SHIT movie
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Barcode
from United Kingdom on 2008-01-25 07:30 [#02167369]
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Sadistic violence for sadistic people. I turned it off.
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cyrstal dude
from LA all day! (United States) on 2008-01-25 07:46 [#02167371]
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Sadistic violence lols for sadistic people. I turned it off.
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2008-01-25 07:51 [#02167372]
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I LIKED IT WHEN HE KILLED THE HOMELESS GUY?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2008-01-25 09:51 [#02167422]
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the make-up in the movie is so well-done.
when bateman is being questioned/grilled, it always looks like his face is melting off.
so many great one-liners. they are repeated almost daily.
can't think of anyone else that could have played the role as well as bale had done.
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rad smiles
on 2008-01-25 10:54 [#02167462]
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I have to return some videotapes.
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jules
from United States on 2008-01-25 12:32 [#02167506]
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Oh, Africa, brave Africa. It was a laugh riot
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