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all my songs are in 512/512 timing |
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dammit man, it's in 7/4 time... I did a music course in school, and the prof, who's more qualified then you, brought this song in as an example of strange time signatures... and she said it was in 7/4 time... and it is, all you have to do is count! |
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sure, it could be in alternating 4/4 and 3/4 time signatures, but why the hell would someone go through the trouble of changing the time signatures like that when they can have one single time signature of 7/4 time? It makes more sense to use the straight 7/4 time... |
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i never said it wasnt in 7/4, i was merely pointing out the difference to you (for your benefit i may add) between the 2 parts of the song. you count 3 then 4 for the intrumental part in between the verses and 4 then 3 when he's singing. and yes i can count, and no you don't know your prof is more qualified and please try harder not to punctuate your sentences with curses if you want people to take you seriously and please try to understand someone has told you something and you blindly believe it when i have also studied music theory to a great extent in the past and understand about time signatures instead of someboday just telling me something |
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7/4 like 5/4 has to be 2 groups of notes. with 7/4 there has to be a 3-4 count or a 4-3 count as a natural rhythm, the same for 5/4 usually being 3-2, i'm unaware ofr any 5/4 songs being 2-3, maybe somebody can point one out to me |
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you're not making any sense man... 3 then 4 for the instrumental, and 4 then 3 when he's singing? Huh? Afraid I don't understand that... I'd like to know where you studied music theory... ok, I was a bit off in saying the lyrics are over the 4 beat part, the music is over the 3... I have it playing, and the music is first for 4 beats, and then the lyrics are over the last three beats in each measure... sorry, I hadn't listened to the song in a while... and I said she did say it was 7/4, but that you can also count it... so I wasn't blindly taking her word for it, I just mentioned she said it... |
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"no, its in 4/4 time with 2 groups of 2 bars of 4/4 and a one bar of 2/4 in the bridge" and "sorry, thats 2 groups of 3 4/4s and 1 2/4 " I don't know WHAT the hell you're talking about there, but you ain't saying it's in 7/4 time... |
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ok well the second quote your saying there are repetitions of 14 beats, but that's it's in 3 4/4 and 1 2/4 measures... that's wrong though... it is in 7/4 time... that what you said isn't the same as 7/4 time... and the song doesn't even follow that pattern that you said... again, I'd love to know where you studied music theory... |
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i had a private tutor from the age of 8 if you don't understand what i'm drivveling on about i'm sorry i'm not able to explain it, ill wait for someone else to try to put it another way, or you can ask your music teacher, i'm sure he'll verify everything i've said and explain it to you more clearly |
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nod... I did understand most of what you said, except the 3 then 4, 4 then 3 crap... but what I did understand you saying is wrong in this case... not that I care really, but it is wrong... |
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ok, so you meant 3 beats, then 4 beats... 4 beats, then 3 beats... ok, gotcha... |
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earthleakage - there are about 3 measures of the overture of Stravinsky's Petrushka in 5/8 that go into 2 - 3 (or at least I've seen it interpreted that way) and then 4 measures where it alternates 2 - 3, 3 - 2 and so on. leave it to Igor... |
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i always assumed 7/4 was when you counted to seven and went back to one again. duh. |
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but thats just me... |
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it is... |
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yeah, i was trying to say that earlier in the thread, but i got confused, i think. anyway, don caballero uses this timing ALOT! as well as 5/4 |
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you can count 4 beats, and then 3 beats, and then 3, and so on... but it's still just counting 7 beats... but just doing it in a stupid way... :) |
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just to throw in 2 cents - I think that when you have a time signature over 4 you count straight through but when it's over 8 then you count it in groups (or like a dotted quarter and then a regular quarter for 5/8) cause everything's subdivided. but this is all terminology. the further away you can get from it, the better. |
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mocking what you don't understand is pretty shallow - perhaps yout should ask your teacher about phrasing. or better still say silent, or perhaps stick you what you know about rather than trying to impress buy attempting to bluff your way through |
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what don't I understand? What am I mocking? I ain't mocking anything... and I understand this stuff perfectly... Solsbury Hill IS in 7/4 time... that's all I've been saying to you... and it is... |
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just curious about where that was directed... |
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we need to start talking about time signatures again, then i'll have an excuse to sit in on more conversations, as it is, i don't listen to enough non-crappy music (i.e. my music) to care about the latest timbuland, eminem, and... oh dear... who else do the teenagers like um... elvis? |
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oh diemax, you crack me up. oh yeah - i made a neat song in alternating time signatures - its "19/5" at the end of each measure - but it breaks down pretty interestingly. |
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i don't understand time signatures either if it not 4/4 it's difficult to dance to? no? |
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untrue actually- if you know how to break it down symetrically anybody who can actually dance, can dance to it of course, most people can't dance unlike ME! |
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/me dances around |
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bola - soup forcasa 2 - 3/4 forcasa 3 - 3/4 amnion - 3/4 then get's taken over by 4/4 aguilla - 7/4 (nicely done) |
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