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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-01 15:57 [#00680171]
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I was utterly obsessed with Madonna in the early 90s. Used to have scrap books full of stuff about her. I think she was at her hottest in the Erotica/Justify My Love phase.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-01 16:02 [#00680176]
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three-timing actually, when i saw how well it turned out i made a 3rd version for the next PHUX pack :)
so how comez you didn't email me your ftp info, i'm sure it's a simple instruction
----------- ceri, i wasn't thinking of it in those terms, but you're absolutely right. they're stealing from us financially cos we have to pay inflated prices for "rare" and import releases cos it doesn't sell well enough to be in stores (longer than 2 weeks). plus artists get dropped for poor sales. tons of my fave artists have recorded music in recent years that has been caught up in red tape and may never, ever be heard because the label doesn't think it'll sell. it sucks that they're right. so many people don't buy music, and they don't even discriminate between the madonna's and the esthero's in music.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-01 16:08 [#00680180]
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Please don't be under the illusion that less piracy would lead to lower prices. If anything, I would have thought prices would rise as labels aren't forced to lower prices to boost sales.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-01 16:17 [#00680188]
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i know, record prices are fixed, i wasn't debating that... record labels are for the most part infinitely greedy. i was referring to albums that go out of print cos assholes don't buy it.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-01 16:30 [#00680198]
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Madonnas rap is embarrasing , my face turn red when i hear it and i just want to kill myself. WHat was she thinking???
I guess no one dared to tell her how shit it was during the recording sessions (cause you know...she's Madoona) and now she walks around believing she's a regular techno B Girl down with Missy n stuff haha! That is until she reads the album reviews....
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-05-01 17:01 [#00680226]
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then more assholes download it because it's out of print.
albums were going out of print long before people had the ability to download them.
most of the stuff i download, i never would have bought anyway.
many of the bands who's music i now buy i never would have heard of if i didn't download their album first.
some of the c.d.'s i bought, i never would have purchased had i downloaded the album first. (see: the Isness)
in short: i am an asshole who downloads heaps of music. i hope the whole industry crashes so people would just make music for the love of music and not for the paycheck.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-01 17:09 [#00680231]
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then more assholes download it because it's out of print.
shitty excuse.. pardon the recurring theme..
i know copying albums is a decades old practice but it's never been as prevalent as it is now... i don't need to hear your defense, you're one person, not a large percentage of people.
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-05-01 17:27 [#00680238]
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on a lighter note, i heard about the person who hacked her site and placed her new album in mp3 format on there. haha. and im sure you heard about how she was making copies of mp3s which had the song info but actually had her saying 'what the fuck do you think you're doing?' or something like that.. and the person who hijacked her site put 'this is what the fuck i think im doing' or something like that. then the person put a reference to a girl on an american station called techtv, asking 'morgan webb, will you marry me?'
hahah.. silly kids :)
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-05-01 17:42 [#00680253]
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I think all this jealously bullshit has got to go. I don't mind her making lots of money, what the fuck is it to people anyway? Who cares if record companies make loads of money or don't. Are people suggesting that they loose money? Executives and individuals (within Record companies) have to be motivated, shareholders have to be pleased etc etc. What is it to people whether she is greedy or not she's earnt, NOT YOU? So wake up this is the real world, not some fantasy lazy arse communist state!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-05-01 17:48 [#00680257]
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you're wrong.
I'm EVERYONE!!!
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-01 23:17 [#00680473]
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i enjoy madonna's stuff, for what it is......fun POP music. she tries different things and i respect that in any artist........she doesn't stick with what she 'knows' so to speak and thats really brave.
i could care less how much $$ she has, or anything else about her personally.....doesn't really effect me one way or another.
i do think it's wrong to BURN cd's of ANYONE's music.....no matter how rich you think they are, etc.......when do you draw the line with stealing? when someone has X amount of dollars....theft is theft.....it doesn't hurt any less for those people who have more $$ than you or i.
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wilcoooo
from Sydney (Belgium) on 2003-05-02 02:04 [#00680560]
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they should make CD's cheaper. i think you should make music for fun and not for the money.
and it could benefit those mp3's, because there would be less profit, and allot of top of the pop artist who just make music for money will go away because it's not highly profitable anymore.
as result, that people who just like to make music are left over
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-05-02 02:27 [#00680583]
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It'd be like forced artistic integrity :)
Anyone heard the punk song (can't remember the band) "Fuck Maddona"?
Quite funny.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-02 07:59 [#00681237]
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But there is Robin Hood theft and there is Sheriff Of Nottingham theft . =)
Power to the people!
( ) | | <--Raised fist
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-02 08:30 [#00681329]
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do you actually EAT with that hand? *gives you a condom for lunch*
anyway, this "music should be made for fun" thing may sound fine in theory, but it's ridiculous in practice... i don't think it's asking a lot of us to pay for cd's, it's not like you condone all other forms of theft so why make an exception for this? madonna isn't a good example of this, but for those of you who don't buy independent label stuff, why? at least you know where your money's going, versus the million and billion dollar corporations you're funding when you buy clothes and groceries. think about it.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-02 08:37 [#00681336]
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*does the condom thru the nose trick*
Yeah you should buy the indiependent stuff! Agreed. Tho if i where to buy all the stuff i have downloaded i would need to take a BIG loan , but yeah i try to buy some records now and then.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-02 09:09 [#00681354]
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I like to steal.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-02 09:11 [#00681356]
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you are.... scott weiland in "creep"! wynona rider?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-02 09:16 [#00681359]
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I'm half the man I used to be, and it's all due to the damn internet.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-02 13:10 [#00681555]
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you should buy all music... why would you just draw the line and just buy independant? Come on... people still put work into the music, and again, no matter how much some people may have, they deserve to get paid...
I do download stuff every now and then... not a whole lot though, but I do... but I ain't going to try and convince myself it is right... it's stealing... I steal... but, I see everyone around me doing it, so I might as well... it ain't right, but I do it...
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-05-02 13:14 [#00681560]
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People making music for free. Get real. Why should they? Grow up whoever said that drivel.
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