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Donutman
from Perth (Australia) on 2003-04-25 12:54 [#00668736]
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I'm at the point where I'm finding that I have to make more copies of my songs. I've been reading Sound On Sound, and it seems to be unanimous that MP3's don't quite make it.
At the same time I was reading an interview with Richard D. James, who was talking about having all of his songs on MP3. Although I don't know if these were the versions that got on to Drukqs.
What do you guys/girls do? Should I keep the 24bit/96 khz versions, or am I the only one that can't hear the difference?
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-25 12:59 [#00668742]
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Everytime you masturbate god kills a kitten :)
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Westric Venther
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-25 13:07 [#00668756]
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mp3s are rubbish for quality audio. if you want to archive your tracks, either write them to a cd as playable audio, or use some lossless wav compression such as monkey's audio or shorten to squish them a bit.
once you've compressed music to mp3 it's screwed from then on. if you decompress it back to wav it won't restore it back to it's original state. mp3 compresses so much by 'forgetting' bits of the original sound so it can get a smaller file. it just forgets bits that won't be so obvious to the ear so you don't notice so much. those bits are gone and decompressing won't bring them back.
drukqs wasn't made from mp3 files, i would be able to tell! so if rdj uses mp3, it's not for producing master copies of his tunes.
damn, i'm like essay-man today.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-04-25 13:13 [#00668767]
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yeah, i prefer wav's to mp3's. but then the size DOES matter.
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Donutman
from Perth (Australia) on 2003-04-25 13:15 [#00668771]
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Morton: I love that pic so much I just had to put it in my membership. And I'm sure it's true.
Westric: It's a wierd question, but what do you notice about the difference? Do you loose any sounds or just the quality of them?
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Westric Venther
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-25 13:27 [#00668789]
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hard to put it into words... it's like there's this weird feathering of the sound... like someone's running one of those brushes from a drum kit over a dustbin lid about 20 feet away behind a door. only it almost breaks up the music. i realise that isn't too great an explanation! :D ...but you can either hear it or you cant. there are sounds that can just vanish too, or change... depending on the mp3 codec. xing mp3s tend to sometimes turn snares and hi-hats into squeaks. it all depends on the track really.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-04-25 13:30 [#00668797]
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I keep my tracks as wav files... And it takes up 6,53 Go of hard-drive space.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-25 13:32 [#00668798]
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yeah it's great indeed :)
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Donutman
from Perth (Australia) on 2003-04-25 13:34 [#00668803]
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No. The explaination was good! I think I'll keep my songs in WAV. even if they're larger.
I'm new here, but I love the fact that you can talk to like minded people about things like that.
Westric rocks!
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LuxExTenebris
from ehh... tenebris? (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-25 14:14 [#00668867]
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Westric is the best!
And man, keep your music in APE format. The program that makes it is named Monkey's Audio and it compresses songs to 50% (medium average), completely lossless. No "audibly lossless compression", it's lossless in the means of information, so the resulting APE file is fully identical to WAV it was made from. It features a nice Winamp plugin so you can play APE-compressed songs in a casual way.
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-26 12:21 [#00670495]
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RALMFAO Donutman!!! I was listening to Lone Ravers from Squarepusher when I noticed your cat running from a brown menace avatar. I couldn't get the picture of that cat furiously running for it's life to the sound of frantic squarepusher. I almost pissed my pants laughing!
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aFecks
on 2003-04-26 12:23 [#00670502]
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MP3s are awful, i NEVER listen to them, i prefer vinyl - it has such a warm quality to it
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aFecks
on 2003-04-26 12:28 [#00670518]
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WAV files are awful too, nothing can beat vinyl
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-26 12:33 [#00670539]
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Ya - vinyl has that FULL sound, that can't be captured in digital. Too bad all the clicks and pops irritate the absolute shit out of me at times.
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aFecks
on 2003-04-26 12:36 [#00670547]
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digital has ruined sound (apart from autechre)
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LuxExTenebris
from ehh... tenebris? (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 15:17 [#00671043]
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lol. lol again.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-04-26 19:51 [#00671457]
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AIFF?! You mean the Amiga format?
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2003-04-26 20:00 [#00671470]
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vinyl..... clearer, fatter, deeper :)
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-04-26 20:03 [#00671475]
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i keep my tracks as aiff
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map
from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2003-04-26 20:04 [#00671478]
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what is sound ? :P
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Donutman
from Perth (Australia) on 2003-04-26 22:11 [#00671566]
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I read an interview with the producer of Neil Young, and he was saying that they've always hated digital, but they both approve of the new 192khz format on Pro Tools.
I thought I would be content with my 24/96 soundcard, but then they just keep increasing these numbers.
If I can't notice the difference between wav and mp3, then there's no way I can figure out the difference in these higher numbers.
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LuxExTenebris
from ehh... tenebris? (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 22:29 [#00671572]
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Man, just promise to use APE whenever you need lossless compact storage for your WAVs. Okay?
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Donutman
from Perth (Australia) on 2003-04-26 22:38 [#00671577]
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Wow! And it's free too. Aren't people nice.
Thanks for the advice Lux, I promise.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-26 22:51 [#00671590]
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Yeah, monkey's audio is the way to go. I've got around 10gigs of lossless audio on my computer. Next week I plan on buying one of those 200gb drives. They're on sale right now for $180.
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LuxExTenebris
from ehh... tenebris? (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-26 23:00 [#00671604]
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Yeah, as my dad used to say, "good things can't cost much"...
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