 |
|
You are not logged in! F.A.Q Log in Register |
 |
|
 |
 Now online (1)big ...and 234 guests Last 5 registered Oplandisks nothingstar N_loop yipe foxtrotromeo Browse members... |
 |
Members 8025Messages 2614224 Today 6 Topics 127549 |
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I've been really into Alex Grey's paints for a couple years now. Does anyone else care for his stuff at all? I just got a poster of the piece "wonder". I like it a lot... reminds me of how it felt to be a kid. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
he's fantastic, i've had his site bookmarked for years!!! a friend that was majorly into TOOL first introduced me to his work. =0) |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Example please? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
if you appreciate his work, you really can't do without his two books of his work. breathtaking. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i've got his book "sacred mirrors," and i'd like to see the new one. his work is fantastic. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
linky? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
looks like a bunch o' new age crap imo |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I like his stuff too; have "Sacred Mirrors" and have seen "Transfigurations". |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I've never heard of him. But now im interested in seeing his work. link link |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I've got Transfigurations, it's amazing. I met him in New York before the Tool show at Radio City. Greatest show ever, they thanked Alex Gray and put a spot light on him. Applause followed for several minutes. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
|
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
thank you |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
x tomatic: interesting how a meaningless label like "new age" can be used to dismiss a body of work. alex grey is a buddhist, actually, and the spiritual imagery does not necessarily make his artwork "new age." imo. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
but still it looks like a bunch of new age crap, the guy's obviously full of himself with his quotes and ideas for a temple, I'm like surprised he hasn't been on Oprah? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
please tell us, what is "new age"? is it crap because it is "new age"? i don't intend to criticize you for having a dissenting opinion, but i am curious as to how you came to your opinion, and i want to know what you mean by "new age." i do hope you have the opportunity to experience yourself the invention and dedication of someone like alex grey. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
and x-tomatic, how is it that you are not full of yourself? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i used drop acid with this geek named Alex Grey. he was always saying 'kind'. LIke "that bud is kind" or "these shoes are kind" or "these eggs and bacon are kind" he also kinda smelled like pee. i don't think he was the artist though.. where is the artist Alex Grey from? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
Alex Gray is old, and from New York. I don't think they're the same. ha. This tea is kind. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I really don't see how I am obliged to explain to you why I feel this way about his work, I just do okay? I'm like totally fine with it if you think it's the best that ever happened to you, I just felt like you to express my feelings on his works and new age crap is what comes to mind then. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
he's full of himself because he loves his own vision and is able to receive spiritual ecstasy through it? is that a healthy judgement to be making? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
you ever think that biased uneducated judgement of other people might be the very cause of conflict and war in this world? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
ahaha. terrible. new age/pseudo spiritual crap. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
very simple concept. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
please define "age/pseudo spiritual crap" |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i think its self explanatory. it is "new age" in the sense that i equate it with new age philosophy on metaphysics, atleast this is what i do upon first viewing the work. it is "spiritual" in nature. perhaps pseudo was unnecessary. however, i highly dislike this artwork. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
well, you can't blame a man for painting his visionary states, and it's kind of silly to place him in that "new age" category which is no more rational a description than hitler's aryan race. it includes everything from phony psychic nuts to seriously inspired artists who know what their on about, and anything too syncretistic for the accuser's comfort. also, many who don't like his work from the site might appreciate his unbelievable art if they saw it in detail, from his books or in a museum. it's some of the richest artwork i've ever seen. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
It's fucking breathtaking is what it is. Anyone who was lucky enough to see Tools last tour were able to see many of Gray's work larger than life. In person his work has the ability to bring out emotions and thoughts you never new existed. Anyone interested in philoophy should chech out Ken Wilbur. Very interesting ideas, especially his "Integral Vision". |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
breathtaking indeed. i've never experienced so much empathy for a visual artist until i saw alex grey's work. he paints experiences that verify that my own experiences are not completely subjective. i'm very grateful for the man's work. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
well, i respect your enjoyment (probably an understatement) of this mans work. but, art must first cause some kind of reaction within me for me to sustain interest, and this did nothing. i won't defend why i dislike it, but i dislike it nonetheless. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i guess ultimately my point would be that there is no new age philosphy, but rather a large group of philosophies are put into "new age," many of which have nothing to do with eachother. it's mostly a bias against certain lifestyles and aesthetics and most importantly, eastern-western syncretism. alex is a practicing buddhist, so if he is new age, buddhism is new age. or maybe all paths outside of western tradition are "new age?" it's really quite absurd and those who use the term come off as very ignorant and judgemental to those who are educated in the subject. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i understand dislike, i just cringe at labels that imply heavy judgement. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
funny, i dislike "western tradition" and never implied that "all paths outside of" it are new age or anything along those lines. i'm sorry i used the term, which i equate with enya music and windchimes. perhaps you could step off your high horse for a moment, oh "educated" one, and forgive me. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i'm sorry for being such an asshoel about it, but you made a baseless judgement, using a derogatory word. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
and what exactly is so high riding of me about knowing the backround of this artist? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
fair enough, x-tomatic, i was asking in the spirit of the message board. i inquire about the things that interest me, and your summation seemed provocative, if hasty. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
i thought you meant educated as in educated about eastern non western tradition, as thats the context you seemed to be using it in that sentence. your overall tone was condescending as well. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
and i agree, "new age" is frequently used as a thoughtless, critical epithet, and its use begs explanation. saying that "new age crap" is self explanatory is evidence that the user believes that his or her own prejudices are self-evident. we should be honored that our fellow xltrons encourage us to articulate our thoughts. we are in the world together. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
some give in to the temptation to condescend, and others give in to the temptation to react to perceived condescension. now that we've acknowledged our shared ignorance, let's return to our meditation circle. take your crystal in your right hand, rotate your pyramid and say Aummmmmmmmmmmmm ; ) |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
I remember seeing this man in interview a few years ago on PBS and he stated that all of his visuals are insprired by mental states that he achieved through the use of LSD. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
yeah, sorry for the tone. i get over-reactive and say much more than i need to. i didn't mean to be condescending though. i don't think myself above you, i just pointed out that you made an unwarranted judgment. you clearly didn’t understand that “new-age” is a derogatory term, an artificial category (as an analogy, bats were at one time considered to be closer to birds than rodents in relation) and you clearly don’t understand the artist you judged anyhow. you were being condescending to me indirectly when you judged grey because i have spiritual inclinations very similar to the man. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
many of them were. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
fine. i do, however, have the ability to judge art, and knowing the background behind this does not change my opinion of the work. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
*opens arms for a rainbow spirit hug* |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
*covers rainbow in a veil of ignorance and runs, screaming, from this thread* |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
when I saw tool not too long ago when they came round I was absolutely floored by alex gray's work blown up all huge and gorgeous and backed by such powerful music... new age? I always thought that his stuff was very dark and introspective at times, not to mention clearly more transcendentalist and philosophical than religiously themed. but that's just one girl's opinion |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
alex grey is trippin on too much acid |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
isn't that better than not enough acid? |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
actually it's DMT...not really acid (thought i'm not saying that he doesn't do tha shiz...) he's been dubbed the DMT artist... infact, IMHO, i feel that the latest TOOL/Alex Grey corelations have been majorly DMT influenced...especially a majority of the "concepts" behind lateralus. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
| |||||||||
|
|
nanotech, have you experienced dmt? dubbed the dmt artist by whom? what imagery/forms suggest a dmt influence? what are the thematic concepts of lateralus? i don't like tool, so i am unfamiliar. incidentally, i have read interviews in which alex grey acknowledges the influence of psychedelic substances, and i only recall him mentioning lsd. i don't think he's the sort of person who takes such an experience lightly (that is to say, recreationally). i'm sure he's equally familiar with psilocybin. |
||||||||
|
|
|||||||||
|
Messageboard index
|
|||||||||
