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Ok, after a lot of listening, I've decided Draft 7.30 is Ae's worst album. Sorry for another Draft thread, btw..:) I think it's fairly complicated (beat-wise) and has some nice screwed up noises, but seems less focused and WAY less atmospheric than Confield, or any of Ae album...I mean, the very last two tracks are powerful, but the middle (bar Surripere) is painfully anal imho...just them showing off with their weird knob-twiddling and squirts/fart noises...where's a beautiful melody like the one from track 1 of Confield? Or one with a shocking climax like the last Confield track? etc...sure, they're not obeying the laws of music (fair enough) but imho, you need to do SOME things people can relate too. In Confield, it was the powerful, dark, and EMMOTIONAL atmosphere, in LP5 the driving rythms, in Tri-Repetae, a combination of things... In most Draft tracks, it's nothing (but I'll admit the last two tracks, and Surripere are stunning.) |
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It's different, has its own qualities, tastes differ,enough said. Those who like it: good, you have an extra album to enjoy. Those who don't: pity, better luck next time. |
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yeah, Confield is an asymptote to Draft 7.30 (and vice versa) |
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What are it's qualities? I simply find it less interesting and it doesn't have an atmosphere in most of the tracks. Seems like an excerise in programming to me. |
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I think it's a bit less realized .. or less varied. I donno, I've said before, Draft sounds like one big piece to me. An electropera. :). I love it though. However, it's almost less accessible than Confield in that respect, in that Confield's tracks were more easily recognizable. |
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I'm kind of tired right now (it's after 2 over here): just check out all the other draft related discussions, it's all been said. It is indeed different, maybe less atmosferic and all that, but it's bad for you, and others just like it. Tasted differ. |
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I can agree with the fact the tracks are less individual.... Also, I was impressed with the drumbeats, till I got myself a Grandular effect plug-in....it fucks up my beats to make them sounds complicated, and a lot of Draft's beats seem to have been done thid way-it's so easy. Still, I am getting REALY anal now...hehe. That's how I listen to my music though :D |
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how about, rather than autechre's worst album, it's just your least favorite? personally, i find incunabula to be quite boring. draft 7.30 might not be any confield (i haven't formed a clear opion yet, as it feels different every time i listen so far) but it's not the worst in my book. |
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neither does it touch my cd player |
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Ok, sorry. I like it the least, and in MY opinion, it's their least cohesive and nowhere near as emmotional/atmospheric as the other stuff (apart from the tracks I've already said)... Incunabula is ok. Fine for it's time, but a little too simple imho. |
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i'd like to say that it lacks the atmosphere and emotional impact that i like to get out of an album, but i thought confield was downright cold and masturbatory when i first started listening to it. yet it had something that made me curious, made me want to feel it out more. then it grew on me and i love it. i'm saying that i know that draft will grow on me and become precious, but it's certainly a possibility. it is, in fact, calling me right now. something about it won't let me form an opinion yet. |
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I had an opportunity to hear peel session 2 AND draft for the first time (since somehow I never heard of peel 2). So not being biased by having heard an older album already, I think that the first track on peel 2 is better than anything on draft. |
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"i'm not saying that i know draft..." |
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"Draft..doesn't touch Confield" i agree with that, but i also agree that confield doesn't touch draft. it seems to me to be made with an entirely different intention than confield, so other than the fact that they are by the same artists, it doesn't make much sense to compare. |
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I don't like this whole "getting" thing. Sure, you need to let an album grow on you. But when I first heard Confield, even though I wasn't too keen on it, I knew it had a deep, cold atmosphere and that it would grow on me. Draft is growing OFF me though...it lacks anything to lach onto imho...it's...nothing. |
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"but i also agree that confield doesn't touch draft." i meant to put "but i also believe that confield doesn't touch draft." |
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"confield doesn't touch draft" I have to disagree. They are very similar sounding, like Incunbula and Amber in a way. But Draft does every differently to Confield too (in all the wrong ways, imo)...I agree and disagree with you. The sounds/rythms are very close, but they fucked the structures up, and it has less "backround atmosphere" (or something) compared to Confield. |
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i would never think that an album that turns me off just needs me to get it. the case with draft is simply the case with confield for me... it has an alure that i can't resist. eventually i'll get bored with it or i'll love it i imagine. so apparently we just have different experiences when listening to the album. |
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i like them both, but confield is definately more instantly gratifying. |
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you need to do SOME things people can relate too. I don't think they really care if other people can relate to it or not. Why should they? |
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i have faith that they enjoy the music they make. |
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Absolutely. |
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i have a feeling that in the end i'll prefer Confield... but i still really enjoy quite a bit of Draft... i think one of the greatest things about autechre is their ability to create the most messed up textures... tracks like 6ie.cr make this release more than worth my while |
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i'd probably win my bet if i said that, a year from now, 80% of what people have said in this thread wil have changed. it's inevitable. it's like this everytime. |
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draft is da shit. Not like confield...really da shit.. |
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draft is gorgeous! to me :) it didnt hit me at first sure, but i was rolling around to it earlier |
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yeah, gelk is the most underrated ae track i think |
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it's one of their catchiest melodies ever written imo. whenever i hear the track, i cant get it out of my head for the rest of the day, it's addictive. |
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On the flipside, I bought Draft a few days ago, and it welcomed me into listening through it all day for the last few days. I have had Confield since it came out, and I've had so such invitation yet. It usually kicks me out at track 3 or 4. One of these days. I personally like Draft. I'm new to this board. Is that the general concensus? Don't like Draft? |
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I'm loving it at the moment, nothing like what I've heard before ( I'm new to abstract Autechre). I just can't get enough, and I'll never tire of Theme Of Sudden Roundabout... that little melody that comes in and the flicker of vocals make my day. Confield is 2nd on my 'to get' list. |
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Nah, it's just some who like it and some who don't. People just keep on repeating what's they like or don't like about it, and also it's often compared to other albums. comparing any album to any other is not really good for Autechre, as all their albums are different from each other. |
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The worst album in a pile of spectacular albums isn't necessarily crap is it? Even Ae's worst attempt is better than the finest attempts of most. |
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yeah no shit settle down they both rock im diggin em both fucking a, this place turned into a soap opera. back and forth. like one person here made CONFIELD adn another made DRAFT and they are going back n forth NO, MINE IS BETTER NO, MINE IS!!! sigh, wake up, you didnt make the music. stop look listen |
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Hmm....is it me or does the first 3 minutes or so of Surripere sound like something off og Garbage? |
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For some reason, this album moves my ass more than LP5, Chiastic Slide, Confield, or even Tri Repetae. Good things. |
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draft reminds me a bit of chiastic slide and tri repetae but i in my opinion the album is not as various and athmosferic like confield or chiastic and tri but i have to listen to it better i know it will grow up on me. at high volume is absolutely amazing. |
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*the vinyl sounds soooo good!!!!!! .....sounds so clear..... |
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why compare ?? again.....two different albums..what more do you need to know....might as well compare it to pp roys seven up or my cat. |
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yes why compare? that's my final definition for draft:ae's party record. i think there's a lot of houmor and fun in theese songs. |
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Hey, I don't want an argument or soap-opera :D I just love discussing music! And, I go into stupid detail sometimes, I'm sorry. :) Draft is technically amazing I've decided, but doesn't have that backround atmosphere of any other Ae album. My opinion... |
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do you like the new GESCOM? |
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i'd like to know more about it, can't find it anywhere. It is a minidisk only release or something? |
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cd single or vinyl 12" .cd has a bonus track. skam.co.uk.....not sure you ll like it so i wont push you or anything..:D |
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ISS SA doin the trick for me though... |
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there's some info on the warp site probably www.warprecords.com, and most likely you'll find something about it on the site of Skam records (don't know the URL, sorry). It's 5 songs, released on CD and vynil. some of the tunes also appeared on the Ae live @ Coachella bootleg i've read here somewhere (tomorow I'll be home and it should have been deliverd by mail then, can 't wait). |
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I'm very interested. Oh, and I'm no Ae hater or anything, I normally love anything by them, which is why Draft is such a dissapointment...:) So, is Gescom just the same as Autechre, under a different alias? |
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It are Rob and Sean of Ae, but in collaboration with others (don't know them by name). It's some sort of a collective thing if I'm not mistaken. A bit of a differnet style, but if you have heard the radio mix by Ae, there was some remixed gescom on there. On www.autechre.nu you can still hear some tunes of their older records. |
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i dunno, i really like it.. maybe even more than confield.. and i think its just as atmospheric.. just with a different atmosphere.. and as cortex said, everyone who hates it now will probably love it in a year or so, claiming that they finally 'understand it' or whatever it takes to get some people to appreciate autechre's music i dont mean to be insulting to anyone by saying that.. but you know, its only been out a week and peoples' opinions on autechre's albums seem to change like the seasons |
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