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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-16 17:52 [#00653866]
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Can you take this test and not logically contradict yourself or be forced into an absurd position?
click
I made it through without a scratch, naturally. :-)
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-04-16 17:55 [#00653868]
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i've done this before. if i remember correctly i got through it without a hitch.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-16 17:57 [#00653872]
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:: high fives zaphod ::
Has it been posted here before? I thought I first saw it on infidels...
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-04-16 18:02 [#00653873]
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my friends a philosophy major and suggested i have a look. he didn't make it through, which i found kind of funny.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-16 18:11 [#00653881]
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Foolosophy is often the enemy of common sense. I consider myself a naive realist. e.g., certainly, on its deepest level reality may be composed of nothing but chaotic whorls of nothingness, but by god I'll kick your ass if you touch my computer.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-04-16 18:23 [#00653897]
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ouch. i got fucked. but some of the questions are rather unclear. as in...the phrasing. i was perfect up until the very end. rather disappointing. eh. ah well. i never claimed to be captain religion, anyways.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-04-16 18:23 [#00653899]
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maybe i should change my avatar now. =(
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-04-16 18:31 [#00653910]
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i got hit twice. it was a matter of not thinking about the questions enough though, not me actually contradicting myself. that is, i didn't realize what it was i was saying, the contradictions i made wouldn't have come from own mind.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-04-16 19:16 [#00653975]
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ditto, but I see where the logical contradiction comes in.
I don't think everything is so cut and dry, but it is interesting to see the logical equation behind thinking that is how it all works, perfeclty in neat little rows.
thanks fleet
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-04-16 19:19 [#00653979]
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yeah. the phrasing in lots of the questions was really weird and it threw me off. i think they did that on purpose. =/
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-04-16 19:19 [#00653980]
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it is interesting in concept... what would be truly revolutionary if there was something you could enter entire unique statements into. this something would be some sort of ligual/logic master and just point out the errors. there would be no need for debate! but, if such a thing were possible, would we have such a diversity of philosophies?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-16 19:37 [#00654001]
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We are such machines as you describe. We only need to be tuned.
I don't think there's an absolute formula for arriving at the truth, but recognizing common fallacies is a step towards weeding out oodles of nonsense.
If everyone familiarized themselves with the classic fallacies and learned to recognized them easily, bandwidth use on discussion groups would drop to 5% of what it is now.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-16 19:46 [#00654006]
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no hits whatsoever on me!
false, false, false, false..... TRUE!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-16 19:51 [#00654009]
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It's interesting to take it again and give "wrong" answers and see why they think they're "wrong".
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-04-16 20:00 [#00654016]
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I took 1 hit and 1 bullet, bad news for me :) I think me and ambsace got screwed in the same fasion, the questions we're unlcear and I'm really fucking high, so thats not very fair.
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tunemx
from Budapest (Hungary) on 2003-04-16 20:21 [#00654025]
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This is a great game. Can really improve logics and view on the world. It's not a religious quiz whatsoever.
I got hit once and bite zero bullets.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-16 20:27 [#00654029]
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i got killed by the final question.
*sob*
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-16 20:28 [#00654031]
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the crap all started at about question 14
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-04-16 21:38 [#00654120]
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ideally people would just tune in and not have memorize bs but could rather smell it. information is increasing, computers are for memory, brains are for ecstatic frontal lobe popping! click your amygdala!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-16 21:51 [#00654140]
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That brings to mind something I saw last week on Scientific American Frontiers - Alan Alda was visiting the media lab at MIT and was shown a headmounted display for space suits.
The idea was that astronauts may have to perform maintenance tasks many months after they've received training for them, on a relatively large number of different systems. So the helmet mounted display could walk them through the steps.
Alan Alda put the helmet on and watched and said, "That's really great; I get the feeling that even I could follow these instructions".
The problem is, if you treat your brain as a big strokable pleasure-glans and rely on the machines where you've offloaded all your knowledge, what is there to set you apart from any other piece of human meat?
We may see a day, and soon, where even highly skilled technical workers are just an info-module riding on an interchangeable meat vehicle. And you'll be glad to get the work too.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-16 21:52 [#00654143]
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I thought it was dumb. you have to be specific whether you think god exists or not, without being provided any definition of what is meant by god.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-04-16 21:55 [#00654147]
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yeah, not to say that we should abolish memory or rationalization. but i do think there is general abundance of stupid arguments (if your good enough, you can almost back anything up with logical argumentaiton) and a corresponding lack of wisdom, or the ability to understand what your intuitions actually mean.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-04-16 21:56 [#00654148]
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yeah, i have some issues with the battleground too, i'm just too lazy to tear it apart.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-16 21:58 [#00654155]
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Clapton is god.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-16 21:59 [#00654158]
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eric clapton?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-16 22:04 [#00654168]
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yes
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-04-16 22:06 [#00654170]
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lol, beautiful
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-16 22:06 [#00654171]
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Fuck intuition. Man did not invent nuclear reactors using intuition.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-04-16 22:09 [#00654174]
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maybe if some deeper sense of what is best for harmony amongst humanity existed in our world leaders, they wouldn't be able to convince theirselves that war, oppression, exploitation, etc. are justified.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-16 22:11 [#00654177]
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someone said "you can't think about making gas stations until you think about making cars"
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-16 22:19 [#00654196]
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Unless you're God. He made plants and animals - "fuel" - before he made man - the "iron horse".
I think it's important to remember that 600 million years ago there were no computers.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-04-16 22:20 [#00654199]
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elaborate point? i'm not sure what you are implying
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-16 22:21 [#00654202]
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A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-04-16 22:26 [#00654213]
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blind fath and total skepticism are two extremes. the middle path cannot be logicked
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