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Mr. Bighead from Coolidge, AZ on 2001-02-22 21:10 [#00000240] | |||||||||
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Let's talk jazz... go on now say a little something... say a little something... say a little something... |
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jeremy gustin from Boston on 2001-02-22 22:40 [#00000245] | |||||||||
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....great jazz is great.... |
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diastole from doh! on 2001-02-22 23:06 [#00000248] | |||||||||
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is red snapper a type of jazz, and indeed the same question could be aked for omni trio! hmmmmmmmm jazzzzzz |
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Id Lab from Brakehorse.com on 2001-02-22 23:42 [#00000257] | |||||||||
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They're jazzy, at least. Medeski, Martin and Wood are great jazz. Squarepusher is sometimes jazz. |
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Mr. Bighead from Coolidge, AZ on 2001-02-22 23:49 [#00000258] | |||||||||
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How about Cecil Taylor? Charlie Parker? Ornette coleman? John Coltrane? Charles Mingus? or maybe the Art Ensemble of Chicago? |
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Torley Wong from Vernon, BC, Canada / WWW.TORLEY.COM on 2001-02-23 01:29 [#00000259] | |||||||||
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good list, Mr. Bighead! i'll say Photek for the sake of "jungle jazz" (as much as some people dislike that term) and his sometimes jazzy drum programming. (diastole: yup, Omni Trio have fallen under this label too time to time, and Red Snapper some people liken to a jazzy sort of trip-hop. but labels aside...) let's not forget a lot of music in veins like R&B and funk are descended from jazz roots. what about Erykah Badu, for example? and her roots in Billie Holiday and Ella Fitzgerald. or along more electronic lines... yes, Squarepusher definitely has jazz heritage, Id Lab! Luke Vibert sometimes kicks it up in a more funk-oriented direction (i.e. his collab with BJ Cole). i'm also thinking the likes of Adam Dorn aka Mocean Worker. our own Richard D. James too in a tangential way -- some of the snare rush syncopations he throws in, likejazzlike. lots of great artists... oh, and of course: http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=jazz read the bottom few sentences :-) |
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wizards teeth from Inside my own kidneys on 2001-02-23 09:40 [#00000267] | |||||||||
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Why is music put into a class. Why can all music not be classed as Jazz. Cool Daddyo |
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Torley Wong from Vernon, BC, Canada / WWW.TORLEY.COM on 2001-02-23 10:10 [#00000268] | |||||||||
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wizards teeth, good point -- i know what you mean and i've heard it many times before. simply put, i believe that each human sorts things in his/her own unique individual way for such purposes as organization and accessibility. there needs to be a balance of order and chaos like yin and yang. genres and labels and classes (as you put it) are just there to make things more convenient, they don't necessarily have to be limiting in the pigeonhole sense if you use them casually. certainly some people will feel a certain artist is more jazzy than another, but i'll leave that up to personal preference and a matter of subjective opinion. styles of music are just sort of general guidelines with the lines blurred. i guess that's a beauty of being an individual! :) cool eh? |
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diastole from http://homstead.com/diastole1 on 2001-02-23 11:25 [#00000272] | |||||||||
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we need genre so we don't have to riffle through stuff don't we...we need to categorise stuff...but we do go over the top............don't be too much of a pendant and say that the category is MUSIC...but anyway, who cares... I have a great cd called jungle jazz, and i enjoy the brass when it kicks, those trumpets!!!ooooh! |
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TuneFish from T.O. on 2001-02-23 15:47 [#00000278] | |||||||||
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Anybody heard "Shapeshifter Compilation: Jazzstep into Drum and Bass", yet? That is also a very good example... |
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Mr. Bighead from Coolidge,AZ on 2001-02-23 20:10 [#00000298] | |||||||||
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Jazz is not a term that I would say is capable of pigeon holing an artist. terms like fusion and funk fusion are the only terms that have ever pigeon holed a jazz artist. I give a nod to all the artists who have roots in jazz. As for me all my roots are in straight up punk rock and avante garde compostion. jazz came along a bit late. We should also give a nod to all the artists who are still making meaningful jazz today. People like David S. Ware and Matthew Shipp. Everyone should do themself a favor and buy a copy of "Go See the World" by the David S. Ware Quartet. It's wonderful experimental jazz. Plus, he could use some more royalties. I have a feeling that a majority of the best techno carries the same spirit of free jazz or be bop. In it's search for new sounds and textures. Aphex can make his equipment explode in much the same way that Bird made his saxophone scream. Plus, "Music is Rotted One Note" is a damn good album. I wonder if Squarepusher ever got any recognition from any major jazz artists? |
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hedtwin from Manchester, England. on 2001-02-23 21:13 [#00000309] | |||||||||
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i like jazz, it is very very cool. I would agree that squarepusher does alot of jazz tracks, and i enjoy them greatly. |
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Torley Wong from Vernon, BC, Canada / WWW.TORLEY.COM on 2001-02-23 21:57 [#00000311] | |||||||||
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Mr. Bighead: that's a really good way of putting it. again, it's so subjective. i suppose in the same way some people say "hip-hop is a lifestyle" nowadays, obviously one of its precursors was jazz and jazz could also be a lifestyle. heck, rave (or at least raving) is a lifestyle, so why not. then again, i think Miles Davis once said something to the effect of "fusion" not limiting him so it goes on + on + on :). ok, here's a FUN analogy to complete: Aphex Twin and Philip Glass Luke Vibert and BJ Cole Squarepusher and ? and anyone have opinions on... scat singing? |
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Mr. Bighead from Coolidge,AZ on 2001-03-03 08:22 [#00000691] | |||||||||
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Let's make techno the new jazz. Let's have a Bird and a Diz. A miles and a trane. A thelonius and a new sound for the music. Let's make it a movement. A real movement. if you know what I mean. |
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Scary Bear on 2001-03-03 13:50 [#00000698] | |||||||||
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I don't know about anyone else here, and I've mentioned this before, Charles Mingus is amazing. I heard of him when looking at the influences for the latest Radiohead album and man it was something special when I first played it. And I'm suspecting that a lot of Warp artists do have influences from jazz and also classical. Has anyone here listened to the new Tortoise album, I bough it two days ago and it definitly has some interesting tunes on it. Still not as good as the twin tho. Oh and while I'm on the subject if you want to check out classical infuences then listen to Scriabin, for the bigger enthusiasts you might want to check out his Dark Symphony and the Mystique chord. |
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hexane on 2001-03-03 14:48 [#00000702] | |||||||||
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i really dig some of the stuff Laurent Garnier is doing with that dang saxophonist. anyone heard it? i heard somewhere that Tom Jenkinson's dad was a jazz drummer. makes a lot of sense... |
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hexane on 2001-03-03 14:49 [#00000703] | |||||||||
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i really dig some of the stuff Laurent Garnier is doing with that dang saxophonist. anyone heard it? i heard somewhere that Tom Jenkinson's dad was a jazz drummer. makes a lot of sense... |
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xepha88 from behind you on 2001-11-01 18:04 [#00047776] | |||||||||
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yes, I agree with you all, Jazz is spiffy~~ it takes mad skillz all up in your grill to know how to improv'~~ to see the counterpoint at yo' finga' tips and then play with it. it's just like abstract art, or some modern poetry: you have to know the rules in order to truly say something by breaking them. |
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Ophecks on 2001-11-01 18:55 [#00047786] | |||||||||
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You must LOVE jazz, if you had it in you to dredge up this topic, eh? :) |
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Vcheilie on 2001-11-01 20:37 [#00047809] | |||||||||
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shove some miles davis up your ass |
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fuck these musicians on 2001-11-01 20:53 [#00047815] | |||||||||
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Torley Wong is a robot. |
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The_Funkmaster from Canada on 2001-11-02 02:16 [#00047835] | |||||||||
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Hey, what about Dave Brubeck? :) Time Out is a gorgeous jazz album... Kind of Blue and Love Supreme are both awesome!!! Steely Dan is an awesome jazzy rock group... actually, Steely Dan is the name of a dildo from Naked Lunch... |
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