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hey, in a recent interview richard d. james mentioned that he switched to mp3 when dj'ing. is there anyone among us who has some real (professional) experiences doing mp3-djing? i am fooling araound with my older notebook and traktor from native instruments - but without any additional hardware. if you are laptop/notebook-djs: what set-up do you recommend? thx, andreas |
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is traktor or anything similar available for the mac? cant sem to find anything suitable....... |
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traktor 2 in tandem with a midi controller is a brilliant setup, you can control all the filters, eq, crossfaders etc with midi rotaries, makes everything really flexible and responsive. the oxygen 8 is a great little controller, but evolution have a 16 rotary one thats cool also. make sure you buy a soundcard that has two separate outputs so you can assign one as your main output to the pa and one for your headphones...i use the m-audio quattro, which gives me really low latency. |
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real dj's use vinyl pussies use laptops |
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(and by pussies i mean people who dont have any balls) |
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whats the difference? i like it one way or another |
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the difference is a disc jockey uses vinyl discs a laptop jockey steals songs and plays them without paying for or getting them as promo's from friends / etc the difference is one is an artform, and another is a way for lazy computer geeks to feel cool |
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ok i disagree with that :) are you saying you cant play your own mp3? and as far as i know many vinyl dj's are not using their own stuff what i meant with i like it one way or another is, that i dont care whether is a vinyl or mp3 performamnce as long as the music is cool lately i been hearing better music from laptop sets! |
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im talking about djing - not about "live sets" if someone uses a laptop to mix songs made by someone else - its lame - ill tell you why - same im mixing drum n bass (which i do) with vinyl records (which i do) - it is hard to beat match and keep things tight when mixing two tracks together now with a laptop i can download those tracks, not pay for them, which helps the producer not make more tracks, and AUTOMATICALLY sync the beats with the click of a button, this takes all the physical work out it if you are a producer and use it for a live set its only about 1/8 more acceptable - twirl some knobs live - i dont want to see someone playing with a laptop for $20 - i can walk around my campus and see that shit for free its boring |
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vinyl djing is definitely more physicaly demanding for a dj, but the final effect on the "consumer" is the same or even worse if the dj is not any good :) "i dont want to see someone playing with a laptop for $20 " you see that is your problem-i go to hear music not to see someone djing :) im listening with my eyes closed so it doesnt really matter if it comes out of an radio :) |
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i go for the loudness |
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i go for the music and for loudness also BUT - why would i want to watch someone play a song behind a laptop - at least with bands they rock it out live and play the machines - with a laptop you could just be playing wav files while looking like a goon behind your compy6000 - its boring - really boring |
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yeah, it could be boring watching-i agree on that, but then again there's plenty of vinyl dj's playing records and not doing much work but jumping around decks like nutters-is that better to watch? there are some awesome dj's with great technique (like umek for instance) but there are plenty of fake dj's and the thing is (from my experience) computer made music is far better than music made with decks and as i said i go to gigs to hear great music not to watch dj... |
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true - bogdan play a laptop and dances and goes mental and he's about the only laptop jockie i think i would pay to see again a lot of dj's suck - true yeah i can dig your take on being there for the music, but its cool to hear a dj mix two songs and in essence make a new one out of the two you know? |
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i agree with that! the thing is i dont know many dj's doing anything else but techno and this is kind of boring music (not always) the music i like to hear on gigs is quite difficult to do with vinyls i guess (im not a dj so i cant tell, but i take your word for it!) |
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yeah its different - when i was in miami it was house, which i HATE - i hate the "rave" scene more than anything in this world i spin really dark and angry drum n bass - and ill walk around a "rave" or a "show" wearing jeans, sneakers, and a tight sweater - all the other kids wear big UFO pants and all this raver shit - yucky ill mix dnb then drop like two bogdan, squarepusher, scud type tracks at the end to FUCK the dancers up and make some ear drums bleed - afx's fly coma remix is good for this too im very different though - cause i started with experimental then went to dnb - so i have a different take on it |
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well I saw Aphex Twin using a laptop at glastonbury last year and it was fantastic. That's all that matters to me. |
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huh, sounds like my kind of thing its hard to hear any of that outside uk but if you ever do a gig in europe let us know! :) |
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i will for sure, though i doubt anytime soon - (im in college) - and i live in the US but who knows right |
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im not going anywhere hehe another thing occured to me (as i was thinking that im going to see mu-ziq on 19th)-many of idm musicians are using both-laptop and decks, so how can you tell what he's doing? the music is usually too loud to notice if its from the vinyl or not. |
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hey you're the kinda guy I dig. I'm into everything aggresive/fast stuff.. and vinyl.. I don't really see a choice. "the difference is one is an artform, and another is a way for lazy computer geeks to feel cool" Not sure this is 100% true, but that's how it feels like. Anyone can beatmix on a computer... but doing that in real life (computer isn't real life, is it?) that's a whole other deal! Though I wear big pants when I go out dancing (but I am the only one to do so, hehe, so I don't follow any dresscode (in Sweden that is)) I do it cause I feel like I can throw myself around more freely. Anything aggressive... and fast. I like it fa-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-st! (I'm into hardcore/gabber) If I lived in the US, I'd come to watch you DJ... and to listen of course ;) no seriously I usually dance, but at one time the music has to slow down, and then where should I look - and what do I want to see. I don't want to see some geek with a laptop. |
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hehe,but if you see aphex with his laptop then its ok, right? :) |
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it's becoming so fragmented, we judge artists by their means of creating their material, and i am against that, i don't really give a shit if a laptops used or a deck, whichever medium enables the artist to express themselves as best as possible i am cool with. so what if it's some geek behind a computer, still takes skill, maybe not as much in the physical department, of controlling the vinyl, but hey u still need the ability to control shit on the computer, and then some. ultimately, the end product is what mattes, we are discussing music arent we? or is this just another meaningless flame thread, for some people who might be jealous of the fact that people on pissy little notebooks are making better shit than u do on ur fuckin decks, its called evolution and music goes through those evolutions too, i hate people who stick to traditions or old technologies like glue, just grow learn, move on and use what is available.... |
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well.. I'm sure I'd rather see him spin some vinyl! =) laptop is just lazyness and boring. I just feel like there are too much computers in my life, and I couldn't stand DJing on a computer to... then they'd invade every part of my life. Now I DJ on my puter sometimes, but that's because I have no other option, and I only DJ at home for myself (usually when I am drunk and before I go out)... |
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It's always the final -product- that matters. But I don't feel you can do better on a laptop than on vinyl - if you can, well maybe you should practice some more on your vinylskills... that's how I feel.. |
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Get with the times,sister! };> |
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