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The Price Of Existence Is Eternal Warfare COIL is a hidden universal. A code. A key for which the WHOLE does not exist. Is NONEXISTENT, in silence and secrecy. A spell. A spiral. A serpents SHt round a female cycle. A whirlwind. A double helix. DNA. Electricity and elementals. Atonal noise, and brutal poetry. COIL is amorphous. Luminous and constant change. Inbuilt obSOLescence. Inbuilt Disobedience. A vehicle for obsessions. Dreamcycles in perpetual motion. We are cutthroats. Infantile. Immaculately Conceived. Dis-eased. The Virus is Khaos. The cure is Delirium. COIL are Archangels of KHAOS. The price we pay for existence is eternal Warfare. There is a hidden coil of strength, dormant beneath the sediment of convention. Dreams lead us under the surface, over the edge, to the Delerium state. UNCHAINED. Past impositions and false universals. Reassembling into OUR order. COIL. Who has the nerve to dream, create and kill, while the whole moves every part stands still. Our rationale is the irrationAL. Hallucination is the truth our graves are dug with. COIL is compulsion. URGE and construction. Dead letters fall from our shedding skins. Kabbala and KHAOS. Thanatos and Thelema. Archangels and Antichrists. Open and Close. Truth and Deliberation. Traps and Disorientation. Coil exist between Here and Here. We are Janus Headed. Plural. Out of time. Out of place. Out of Spite. An antidote for when people become poisons. COIL know how to destroy Angels. How to paralyse. Imagine the world in a bottle. We take the bottle, smash it, and open your throat with it. I warn you we are Murderous. We massacre the logical revolts. We know everything! We know one thing only. Absolute existence, absolute motion, absolute direction, absolute Truth. NOW, HERE, US. "Not Knowing What Is And Is Not Knowing, I Knew Not" Hassan i Sabbah Source: COIL manifesto, 1983 |
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regarding coil, here are my two cents. your first order of business should be to find out who you are, and if you are inclined to believe that the price of existence is eternal warfare, you should investigate the law. without it, you are lost. there exists only light, or denial of the light, no darkness. i agree that coil is best when john balance is silent, though i have not heard anything since bld, which i did not enjoy, and worship the glitch, which is interesting but really just seems to be the result of massive processing, so a bit like a rorschach pattern. when you believe in darkness which does not exist, you will allow that which does not exist to initiate your undoing. on a lighter note, i'd like to recommend "stengel" by artist "sogar" on the french "list" label. free of the pretense of darkness, and no cult of personality. warm, enveloping, crackling sound. |
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lurker indeed! around every corner... |
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and now rendered regular |
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I think that manifesto's a bit crusty actually. They're lovely individuals now; they drink nettle tea and have a fridge full of aged cheese. I really like you by the way. |
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I just picked up a few days ago Moon's Milk in 4 phases for 15.99 along with draft 7.30. i must say its just awesome, I like it a lot better than musick to play in the dark vol 1 and its uncomparable to constant shallowness...they had scatology for 13.99 and lots of other stuff but I felt like getting more recent coil rather than the older stuff for right now. |
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Which Equinox\Solstice do you like the best? Autumn and Winter are my favorites.. and the live version of 'Amethyst Deceivers' is fantastic. |
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the Autumn Equinox EP is a masterpiece!! : ) all solstice/equinox are, but Autumn is my favorite. |
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so coil are (is) pretentious musicians that write manifestos about themselves. indeed. |
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i have NEVER seen that manifesto.......KOOL thanks for posting....it's ummmm INteresting.....ehhehehe btw......Machine where did you find those Coil cd's in a local shop? I'm waiting for Moon's Milk.....been waiting 3 months for it......yipes |
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I think Geoff was around 19 at the time of that writing. If rewritten I think the words would be much different.. They're realigned and more refined now. Gentleman even. |
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I got moon's milk at the bent crayon (bentcrayon.com) |
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Queens Of The Circulating Library is very nice... one single track of 49 minutes 26 secondes, in the style of Time Machines (and a few lyrics at the beginning, from a female singer with a very harsh, like a scary teacher's, voice)... : ) |
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Two guys trying to say that some art is good and some is bad. Really art is a personal thing. Everybody likes different things for different reasons. That's what makes art specia, and kind of magical apart from all of the other things that the human race has created. And what it comes down to is that you're arguing over Coil, which no matter what you have to say, you've got to tip your hat to them for being at one time Ass kicking pioneers... PS. 20 to 2000 was Elph (a coil side project) not Coil. So technically it was the best 20 minutes Elph had done. haha |
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Note : Sorry - I didn't realize this thread had become so long. This response is to the end of the first page. Sorry for any confusion... |
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"(female singer with a very harsh, like a scary teacher's, voice)" Thighpaulsandra's mother Dorothy Lewis (a trained opera singer now retired) recites the lyrics especially written for her by John Balance; and for mothers everywhere. |
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yes, i know! ^^ been lurking at brainwashed.com/coil for quite a long time now : ) "ELpH is the entity Coil use to describe what musical compositions come out of the equipment that are sometimes unrehearsed or consciously thought of." i read in an interview i think (or somewhere else?) that ELpH was also a bit like a spirit who visited the Coil members, inspiring them for the making of Worship The Glitch... if i remember... |
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COIL are playing in Birmingham UK in July if anyone is interested. I'll post the link later. |
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god, i can't wait for The World Ended A Long Time Ago, and for Wounded Galaxies Tap At The Window, and they release another thing!! -_-; (COIL ANS, sold at ATP only, in a black clamshell case, three "gentle drone" tracks, according to the news) ...and there is a (new?) track by NWW called "Pre-Menstrual Music For Merry Maidens". i have to get this!! NWW track titles are the best (along with Merzbow's) : D (and when will they repress Constant Shallowness... and NWW's Soliloquy To Lilith?? damn you World Serpent Y_Y) |
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shit almost forgot, here you go: http://www.capsule.org.uk/coming/supersonic/supersonic.htm i'll be there! |
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oh and i have a choice of these cd's: Plastic Spider Thing Black Light District How to Destroy Angels Scatology which one should i get? Could someone describe briefly what each album is like? I've only got the Music to play in the dark 1 and 2, and moons milk: four phases. |
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reccomendations please! i'm writing a list of albums to get when i get my student loan monday... |
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i don't have Plastic Spider Thing, but it's not directly from Coil... other people remixing Coil and some other bands (NIN for example). don't know how it is, i heard one track was almost exactly one NIN song played backwards, so... well, i don't know. is of their dark ambient, a bit like Astral Disaster if you heard some of it - i like those two very much! can't really describe it, it is a different aspect of Coil than the one you can know from Moon's Milk and Musick To Play In The Dark... it can be quite very repetitive but it is very good still. 'Refusal of Leave to Land' is my favorite, beautiful track. (the vinyl edition has an extra track not included on the CD, with lyrics this time - you can download it from ). is good as well, except that all tracks sound a bit the same since all are remixes and one re-recording of the same track (the first Coil track/release ever, i.e. the original How To Destroy Angels, released 1981 in vinyl only - ritual music for the accumulation of male sexual energy), but it isn't boring if you like it. it is also ambient, but in a different way - creepy, melodyless ambient. very good as well. listen to this in the dark, it surely will bring you to another weird creepy world! is a classic by Coil, not ambient this time, sounding more primal and "dirty" - it has an 80's feeling to it, sometimes it's unequal, but there are real gems on this: "Panic", "Tenderness of Wolves", "Restless Day", and the cover from Soft Cell's "Tainted Love" (don't miss this track, if you don't buy Scatology at least download their Tainted Love cover!) there are almost as much instrumentals as songs with lyrics on this one. so... depends on what you prefer! : ) |
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How To Destroy Angels is harder to get into than Black Light District, but i couldn't tell which one is better... Black Light District also brings more emotions i think (maybe it is my favorite from these three?), and is more varied, whereas How To Destroy Angels is more experimental... Scatology is one of Coil's essential recordings, in a more classic way... an important thing - if you pick Scatology, MAKE SURE it's the remastered 2001 version, with the cover! the band doesn't get paid for the other reeditions... |
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"very good as well. listen to this in the dark, it surely will bring you to another weird creepy world!" wow, sounds like the perfect record :) think i'm gonna get that one monday, though eventually i'll have them all! thanks for your help Uzim, you certainly know a lot about them :) you seen them live before? i'm seeing them for the first time in July.... gonna drag a friend along with me. |
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think i'm gonna have to make a compilation for him, it's gonna be hard finding the most accessible songs, one's where he aint gonna think "i'm not gonna see this werido band" :) strange cos i really dont find any of it weird, though i guess too many people are used to simple music on the radio and charts. |
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i've only read a bit of this thread... yeah, constant shallowness is awe. |
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tibbar: i agree with your post that includes; "the lyrics are trite, bad pagan references mixed with drug babble" never have i heard coil's lyrics been described so well. I think they could have put more thought into it...or at least practiced improving for when they hit the studio they can "freestyle" some better lyrics. as far as glitch and black light district being a couple of coil's best; i agree! btw...i also heard rumors that black light district was to be a series of releases. |
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pantalaimon > never seen them live, sadly... in fact i've never seen any band live in my life yet!! ' _ '; i'm so shy i still keep an eye on the live section at brainwashed.com/coil from time to time... in case of... : ) i still have that i've been posting everywhere, if you haven't seen it already! nanotech > those rumors are official! ...but Coil always have so much projects in the making in the same time... better be patient! ^^ |
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i FINALLY FINALLY got The LONG awaited Coil CD Moon's Milk (in Four Phases) and OMGosh it was worth the wait......well sorta.......ehehhe i am kinda upset i had to wait so long (finally found ONE copy in a store in NYC) but it's a masterpiece......everyone should own this ALBUM!!! =0) IF you can find it......ehehhe |
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eh, I couldnt get into coil. I picked up music to play in the dark II, and i just didnt dig it. It was over the top. Like, it tried too hard to be scary... and ended up cheesy. meh... i dont know. whatever floats your boat |
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Zeus > Musick To Play In The Dark isn't (imo) meant to be scary... ...and vol.II is the hardest album to get into i know. it took me months. |
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the hardest album to get into is time machines |
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i appreciated time machines from the first time i heard it... didn't need any time at all... it all depends from what you're used to ' _ ' |
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