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skeeves
from Brisbane (Australia) on 2003-04-07 20:42 [#00637651]
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My friends and I are pretty well evenly divided over this. I think it's rather organic sounding but many disagree. What does everyone else think?
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-07 20:52 [#00637670]
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it's both, most likely, haven't heard it yet
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-07 20:54 [#00637673]
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Definitely more organic than Confield... and ESPECIALLY Chiastic Slide. That thing makes me feel rusty.
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-07 20:54 [#00637675]
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you should listen to surripere ;) (reference to other post)
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-04-07 21:07 [#00637692]
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oragnic all the way
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2003-04-07 21:13 [#00637697]
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it's more organic, but theres definatly some mechanic aspects in there
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-04-07 21:16 [#00637701]
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Bio-mechanical.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-04-07 21:17 [#00637704]
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Uh... I'd say it's organic in it's construction but has a very layered, complex mechanic make up of beats and sounds.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-07 21:17 [#00637705]
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i've only heard IV VV IV VV VIII, but from looking at the cover, i decided that it would be organic
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 21:17 [#00637706]
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i think that confield was the album where the machines became organisms... and this is the next step in the evolution
it's exobiotics
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-04-07 21:22 [#00637717]
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Uh... I'd say it's organic in it's construction but has a very layered, complex mechanic make up of beats and sounds.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-07 21:25 [#00637724]
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WE HEARD YOU THE FIRST TIME MAN! :-p
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-04-07 21:29 [#00637730]
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It was an accident! :) Something went berzerk!
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-04-07 21:30 [#00637733]
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Everything got spooky! :P
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-04-07 21:53 [#00637758]
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I'm so unimportant I should only post half of a time instead of once or twice like everyone else. :(
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skeeves
from Brisbane (Australia) on 2003-04-07 21:56 [#00637761]
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I think the cover "describes" it well. I'd say an accident at some sort of bio-engineering futuristic mutatronic plant.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-07 21:59 [#00637763]
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At what point of complexity does an artifact become a creature? Autechre's songs sounds self aware, therefore I say they are living machines.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 22:02 [#00637767]
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autechre postulates the future of humanity: destroyed by the machines they've created... the machines, an extension of humanity itself, progress until their knowledge and speed mirrors that of a deity...
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 22:02 [#00637768]
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so basically what i am saying is... that autechre is god... haha lame... i'm going home now... wa
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Glitch
from New Zealand on 2003-04-07 22:10 [#00637776]
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I reckon (after only one listen when it arrived today mind you) that its nowhere near as organic sounding as confield.. . I do sort of wish theyd use more actual acoustic sounds in there music.. . not just those kit beats on one of the near end tracks which sound too much like other electronic Ive heard. ..
on things for sure its a brilliant album.. . track 5. surripere is my first fave. ..
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 22:11 [#00637778]
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the term "first fave" was invented for the sole purpose of describing autechre albums
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skeeves
from Brisbane (Australia) on 2003-04-07 22:13 [#00637781]
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Ah, but what are machines but a different form of organism? I guess, in a sense, creating machines is creating new species
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-07 22:18 [#00637787]
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Yes! And with time, there won't be a distinction between tools and tool users. We will blend with our machines so thoroughly that it will be hard to tell who came out on top... and the tools will be so complex and engineered on a molecular level that it will be more like symbiosis than anything else - two species in a mutually beneficial relationship.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-07 22:20 [#00637789]
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whereas i see some of their previous releases as machines with a soul or humanistic emotions, i see the newer material as being very human or fleshy, with a slight inhumanity (alien, mechanical, etc...)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 22:22 [#00637793]
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if someone who'd never heard ae before came hear and saw this...
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skeeves
from Brisbane (Australia) on 2003-04-07 22:26 [#00637796]
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There seems to be some resistance by the human psyche for these bio-machines. that's why most people who haven't followed AE hear Confield for the first time and their bodies react violently. we are on the cutting edge, evolving with the machines. Maybe...
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 22:29 [#00637799]
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well if you can't be the prom queen or trackstar... you can always pretend like you're a more evolutionarily advanced form of the species and listen to nonsense all day long :)
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Charles D Ward
from ASS, okay? (United States) on 2003-04-07 23:56 [#00637926]
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HR Giger's BIOMECHANICS maaaan
I mean not the concept itself, but the style of HRG
perfect
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-04-08 00:10 [#00637944]
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TAPR is extraterressrial communication
i have difficulties listening to that song and i endup skipping it causes i get scared + anxious
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skeeves
from Brisbane (Australia) on 2003-04-08 00:16 [#00637949]
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Yeah, TAPR is a bit like that. I find that Netlon Sentinel scares me more though in a similar way
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-04-08 00:17 [#00637952]
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netlon sentinels beat-rhythm thingy is very original and fun to listen to... its very powerful and makes my stomach curl.. which parts scare you?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-08 00:39 [#00637976]
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i have a video for netlon sentinel in my head... i have written it down in great detail, in hopes that one day i can create it myself. i doubt it will ever happen, it is TO grandoise...
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