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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-07 16:06 [#00637374]
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Whoever said this is more accesible is mad. But it's still fun, and I hope it'll grow on me. I don't REALLY like the way some tracks de-construct from their great begginings, but it works well on some of the tracks. I like the way they've decided to be more surprising and random (especially on Theme Of Sudden Roundabout) where the second half is completely different to the first.
Overall, a good album. Not TOO different to Confield, but that's ok with me.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-04-07 16:10 [#00637380]
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I agree with that guy :D
I personally think it is less accessible than Confield. But it is another great album from the boys :D
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-07 16:13 [#00637381]
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im not sure im going to buy it...yet...i listen to autechre so rarely, it would be silly to buy more of their albums...their music just doesnt do anything for me...im kind of sad about it since they have so many releases, but it just doesnt click for me...
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-07 16:16 [#00637383]
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Yeah, it doesn't for most of my friends either, who are into Aphex/Squarepusher....I can understand why, but for some reason I really enjoy listening to their noise. :D
Yeah, like I said-don't expect anything accessible.
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warpphex
from lurkston, ziltyland. (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-07 16:18 [#00637387]
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My albums in the post with 26 remixes ! i cant wait ! How have the sounds come on from the last album ? i heard they have done some major tweeking with there kit.
the structure may be not to different but sound is important to them .
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-04-07 16:19 [#00637388]
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I think what is different with Autechre is that when you listen to their album the melodies etc aren't immediately apparent. The loudest theme in the track is what you are meant to let wash over you while you pay attention to the quieter softer melodies which often hide in the background.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-07 16:19 [#00637389]
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i like other artists alike autechre which is even more weird :)
well perhaps one day i'll appreciate their stuff...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-07 16:20 [#00637391]
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i tried that many times-unsuccessfully...
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-04-07 16:21 [#00637392]
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Actually the sounds that have been used are very similar to Confield and Gantz Graf it is actually the structure of the track they have paid the most attention to.
It is a lot more rythmic than Confield was.
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warpphex
from lurkston, ziltyland. (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-07 16:27 [#00637397]
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cool, i love the gantz graph sounds, that low acid bass bit rocks.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-07 16:28 [#00637398]
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yeah its more bit-driven.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-07 16:29 [#00637399]
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GODDAMMIT!!! I meant BEAT-driven. BEAT I TELL YOU!!!
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-07 16:29 [#00637400]
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It's more complicated, but the melodies aren't as nice as Confield I've decided. Like in V-Proc-wtf is that stupid major tune comming in at the end, against those minor synth flourishes all about? It sounds awful lol...not ALL of the album is my cup of tea at the moment, but there are some breathtaking moments in there.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-04-07 16:34 [#00637403]
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i think it's one of their best so far
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-04-07 16:42 [#00637410]
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took me a long time to get it
which was really unusual, but i came around, as will you.
keep listening, it grows like 3 weeks down the road :)
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:09 [#00637437]
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sure... sure you did ;) haha j/k
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:09 [#00637438]
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oops.. that was supposed to be directed to qrter.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:14 [#00637441]
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i'd be interested in knowing what is weirder than autechre
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-07 17:15 [#00637443]
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weirder in what way?
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:21 [#00637446]
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in what ever way you decide, i 'spose... i mean... i can't think of anything as unorthodox and innovative as autechre... but i'm interested in who you think is weirder, cause weird is often wicked, and i'm always on the lookout for wicked...
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-07 17:24 [#00637447]
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I could get Draft 7.30 or the new Scooter album... hmm...
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:25 [#00637449]
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if by weird, you mean interesting and strange, i'd have to say coil. but then again, that's my opinion and you don't have to agree with it. :)
i like when the one guy sings - reminds me of the doctor from star trek voyager, when he played that swamp witch-thing in that movie 'legend'.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:27 [#00637450]
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i have horse rotorvator sitting on my computer... i've only heard some of it though... really creepy stuff... there's a lot of really interesting industrial-type stuff... i really like Download
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:33 [#00637455]
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horse rotorvator= Coil album
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-07 17:34 [#00637456]
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hmm, i cant answer that,as i dont see autechre as unorthodox and
innovative...
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:37 [#00637458]
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ha ha very funny (and incredibly flippant)... but no, really... i'm curious: what are you thinking of when you say you know of weirder... i'm sure you have 2 or 3 artists in mind... please share
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-07 17:40 [#00637460]
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i was more thinking of why you consider autechre weird... i've heard plenty of weird sounding music (mostly by japanese musicians)...
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:42 [#00637462]
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yoko ono is weird..
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:44 [#00637465]
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i guess i mean weird as in alien... there are not many artists who create soundscapes even remotely similar to ae... many try, i know, but i can't think of anything that sounds like confield or draft...
as for the japanese... their culture is very peculiar, i must admit... i don't mean this in a negative sense... it's just very different... the movies, the music, etc.
i have to hear more Acid Mothers Temple...
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:46 [#00637467]
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anyone heard Deerhoof? they're actually from San Fran, but i'm pretty positive that the lead singer is of japanese descent... and it's just really weird and good...rock that is...
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-07 17:47 [#00637469]
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deadeight- 1 by crunch 8000 bc by otto von schirach lipswitch by richard devine
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-07 17:48 [#00637471]
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appetite for disktruction by funkstorung
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-07 17:51 [#00637474]
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you could try koji asano, otomo yoshihide, asa-chang and junray
and definitely YOSHIHIRO HANNO
and if you're after soundscapes check jan jelinek & computer soup's "improvisations and edits in tokyo"
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:51 [#00637475]
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i think i have 2 by crunch... you look like a fan of schematic to me... have you heard Dino Felipe at all? is it any good (if so)?
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:52 [#00637477]
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i fuckin love the jan jelinek computer soup album... which otomo yoshihide album is coolest? i've been trying to find stuff on soulseek by yoshihide, with limited success so far
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-07 17:53 [#00637479]
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Dino felipe has the detail but definately lacks the skill to control it. It loops and isn't as interesting as the controlled complexity of, say, 8000 bc. Tracks made by people here are better than dino felipe. www.zebox.com/call for example.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:55 [#00637482]
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yeah? that's a shame... but i appreciate the warning... i really wish that Delarosa and Asora still existed
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-07 17:56 [#00637485]
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i dont have a single yoshihide's album...yet to get one i think i'll start with the one he did with philip jeck(he's awesome as well)
and glad to see people that are into jelinek!
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-07 17:58 [#00637490]
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dela rosa and asora have a few tracks on schematic compilations. I think they also made stuff under prefuse 73.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:58 [#00637491]
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Jelinek is so wicked... and, now that i think about it, i actually have the jeck/yoshihide/tetreault composition on my computer.... Stoke is really good too
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-07 17:59 [#00637492]
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ok, i find philip jeck weirder to autechre :)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 17:59 [#00637493]
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yeah... Scott Herren is Prefuse/Delarosa &Asora/Savath&Savalas... but he says he's through with Delarosa, which is disappointing...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-07 18:00 [#00637494]
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and btw, im thinking of going to see jelinek live on friday-nothing certain tho...
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 18:01 [#00637495]
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jeck is pretty messed up.... on the other side of the coin... Hecker is pretty messed up too....
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-07 18:01 [#00637496]
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i have no idea where edmonton is, but jelinek is coming to play in toronto on april 25th :)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 18:02 [#00637497]
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you should go... because i can't, and the prospect of you're being capable of going but not going, is sad
and that sentence was ridiculous
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 18:03 [#00637499]
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edmonton is in western canada... i'd definitely go if he came to vancouver though...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-07 18:05 [#00637500]
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its 350 kms away-bologna(italy) i was there 14 days ago i was in verona (same distance) this friday im going to mu-ziq's gig on 19th (130kms) so im getting pretty tired of driving around :) (but i'll go if i'll feel like it) :)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-07 18:08 [#00637503]
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i'm going to have to move to europe eventually.... because it makes me cry to see all the good concerts one can see... plus north america's going to be scary when patriot II gets passed in american congress
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-04-07 18:12 [#00637507]
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move to england, you'll get to see some gigs there hehe rest of the europe is not all that great...
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