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offline Mr_Flappypants from Louisville (United States) on 2003-04-05 15:24 [#00634027]
Points: 2796 Status: Addict



youre all just trying to be cool by saying you already get
it

and for those of you who say its shite, quit rebelling you
sissy fuck cunt fuckers. cunts.

fuckers.

ok, in all seriousness, its fine if you dont like it. i
personally think its varei guet. yip!


 

offline blobula from BElgraDe on 2003-04-05 15:24 [#00634028]
Points: 1253 Status: Lurker



can someone upload the mp3's from the cd to the slsk? i
dont want these tape promo's....


 

offline ymenard on 2003-04-05 17:59 [#00634145]
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The main problem I have with Draft 7.30 is that they feel
"too much deconstructed, too fast into the tracks". I
personally think Confield is their greatest, but I'm
dissapointed this time. I found the reason why about 2 days
ago.

There's great moments of ingeniosity and some incredible
music. But on many tracks, they just deconstruct too much,
too fast. Like, 3 minutes into the song and it feel like a
completely different song then the start into something
non-interesting. They almost feel ashame to bring up the
interesting stuff and stick to it.

If you take the Chiastic Slide era or the second CD of
TriRepetae++, you'll see that there's a moment, in the mid
track portion of their song, where they do a transition,
they let instruments go forward while the beat sometimes
gets muted a little. That middle section is completely
forgotten on Draft 7.30.

So you have great tracks like 6ie.cr that shiftes completely
in the middle of the track, for no reason. Same for p.:ntil
(though the transition takes a couple of beats).

The worse for me is reniform puls, which has an _incredible_
start. It's another one of those wow o_O tracks like PIR
from EP7. Why do they fuck up the track by changing into a
borefest at 02:22 ???? Why AE why?

Same for "Surripere". Of course, you can't expect AE to
stick to that great flowing and melodic start. It feels too
simple for them. But the end, omg it's so bad. It's 6
minutes of about the same thing. Of course AE often does
that, but this time it's _not interesting_ at all.

imho ;)


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-05 18:18 [#00634167]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to ymenard: #00634145



Heh, thirdball is right, dude - in a couple months you'll be
cueing up the songs halfway through so you can skip the
"boring" parts and get right to the skullfuck parts.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-05 18:19 [#00634168]
Points: 10513 Status: Lurker



3 days until i am sublimely happy.

i don't care what ANYONE says, it's brilliant and
beautiful... sweet sweet autechre.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-05 18:20 [#00634169]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker



I'm extracting the wavs with EAC right now... gonna upload
to elusive's ftp later unless someone beats me to it.

So are you down with Ogg or do you pussies insist on mp3?


 

offline Charles D Ward from ASS, okay? (United States) on 2003-04-05 18:28 [#00634173]
Points: 1072 Status: Addict | Followup to ymenard: #00634145



I agree with ymenard. They're just experimenting, and their
music is the sacrifice :(


 

offline ymenard on 2003-04-05 18:31 [#00634177]
Points: 1001 Status: Regular



Well I think that AE are aware of the price they sometimes
have to pay to output their creative minds. They will
alienate (and have, I guess) alienated about every person
that listened to them at a point of their development as
artists.


 

offline Charles D Ward from ASS, okay? (United States) on 2003-04-05 18:39 [#00634184]
Points: 1072 Status: Addict | Followup to fleetmouse: #00634169



cool geeks use LAME!

lemme guide you as a pro 1337 geek:

use LAME with parameters "-q0 -v -V0"

to get the best quality

"-q0 --abrXXX" where XX is the bitrate you want to get if
you want to define a bitrate

if you use anything other than that, you're lame and
scientifically incompetent


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-05 18:42 [#00634186]
Points: 10513 Status: Lurker



RAH!

got that?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-04-05 18:58 [#00634204]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to Charles D Ward: #00634184



Aw you're just pissed off cause I didn't want to cyb3r with
you.


 

offline mimi on 2003-04-05 19:08 [#00634208]
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this album leaves me on edge...they kick in with this really
kick ass intro (reniform puls, 6ie.cr, and surripere are
perfect examples of what i mean) and then it dissolves into
something completely different. exactly what ymenard was
saying. but maybe i just need listen and get used to these
weird transitions...

this record sounds pretty confield-y to me, and i love
confield, but i wish they'd take a huuuuge leap away from it
style-wise...they seem to have changed it up more between
albums before.


 

offline Komakino from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-04-06 02:30 [#00634412]
Points: 682 Status: Lurker | Followup to mimi: #00634208



"this record sounds pretty confield-y to me, and i love
confield, but i wish they'd take a huuuuge leap away from it

style-wise"

What are you talking about?


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-06 02:33 [#00634413]
Points: 10513 Status: Lurker



yeah, i don't think it sounds LIKE confield really.... maybe
draft lives on confield's block and is on the same soccer
team, but it is NOT that heavily related.


 

offline Key from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-06 03:44 [#00634431]
Points: 857 Status: Lurker



for me, the tracks on Confield all have their own seperate
personality or mood and are generally clean and sterile but
on Draft, they all seem to be in a similar mood and quite
dirty and skanky.
I love Draft and I cant wait to get into it more, but to me
it doesnt really sound like Confield


 

offline aeCompEntry from Afghanistan on 2003-04-08 08:49 [#00638792]
Points: 19 Status: Regular



so we are all agreed that Draft 7.30 sucks much ass. thanks
for seeing sense, i love you all :)


 

offline forck_02lynix from brooklyn on 2003-04-08 09:37 [#00638854]
Points: 4000 Status: Regular



i like it a lot, listening right now! deconstruction and
critiques will be held at a later date, for now, enjoy the
new lp!


 

offline surrounded from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-08 09:46 [#00638863]
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didn't have time to buy it today :-/ Will do so later this
week.


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-04-08 09:48 [#00638869]
Points: 2443 Status: Addict



autechre could sell circular pieces of dog shit in record
sleeves and cd cases

and nearly %90 of the people on this board would claim it a
masterpiece


 

offline forck_02lynix from brooklyn on 2003-04-08 09:52 [#00638872]
Points: 4000 Status: Regular



hah! dog shit, thats funny. i actually do like draft 7.30,
no masterpiece, but enjoyable. that's my own personal
feeling about it, and i don't give a shit (even if it is dog
shit) if you don't like it. that's your decision!


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2003-04-08 10:50 [#00638963]
Points: 5264 Status: Lurker



i think that it's almost sort of their intention for some of
their fans to not like the direction they go in.
you can tell they are not out to please anyone but
themselves with their music, and i respect that. i think
their music has grown and improved throughout their career,
the more they alienate everyone.
you can dissagree with me, but you don't have to declare
that their album "sucks ass" just becaue you don't like it.


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-04-08 10:52 [#00638967]
Points: 6745 Status: Lurker | Followup to aeCompEntry: #00638792



Perhaps you can make a lovely remix of Draft 7.30....even
better than the original :-\


 

offline Laqeuro from New York City (United States) on 2003-04-08 11:19 [#00639036]
Points: 3167 Status: Regular



i thought draft 7.30 was awsome!

last track on it is my favorite autechre track....


 

offline Ganymede from Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius on 2003-04-08 12:11 [#00639101]
Points: 1045 Status: Lurker | Followup to Cabbog: #00633815



Funny stuff, Cabbog... and true too.

My take on it all is that Ae use these nice intros just as a
way to get you interested in a track but want you to stay
with the track as it evolves. They've stated in several
interviews that they're not interested in anything too
predictable.


 


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