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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-04-03 14:31 [#00631137]
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I have thought long about this topic before I decided to post it, but I came to the conclusion that since these are allegedly "not" the finished tracks, that this topic would be ok. I dont want to piss any of the people off who hate DL'ng albums.
Well, Well, Well....What does everyone think. Like I have posted in other threads, I think this whole " unmastered and not the final tracks" stuff is all BS, but I suppose thats besides my point here. This album seems to be Radiohead in top form. From the MP3's I have downloaded, there maybe 10% left to snip and tuck, but otherwise they sound great. Thom seems to be writing songs that are a bit more vocal, or they just decided to turn the amps down to 9 instead of 10...I like almost every song on here...Sit Down stand up, Backdrifting, Sail to the moon, gloaming, where I end...,etc.
I hope that discussing these tracks doesnt make too many people mad, I just know ALOT of us out here have em, and well, dammit i hate NOT talking about em...=)
Cheers!!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-03 14:36 [#00631153]
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as far as them being unmastered and unfinished goes: it's true, and you can hear it. you can say it's bs all you want, but they are obviously not finished. like i said before: compression, eq, cross fades, bring out the fullness. and i agree, i have been obsessed with these songs since i heard em... i cant get enough. it's definitely their best album, to me. it's everything i could ask of them musically. i think they are entering their peak form. hope it lasts 20 more years.
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there have been a ton of topics as of late on this, but, i'll humor you.
i love every song on this album besides Punch Up at a Wedding which i hate. i'm not sure why either, it just rubs me the wrong way.
as they are unfinished i've decided to delete all the mp3's from my hard drive. just something to do to boost the fun on june 10th.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-03 15:00 [#00631206]
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i liked punch up, not one of my favs.... the tarantino 70's funk vibe is kinda a nice surprise, though.
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zaphod
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sounds like porn music when it comes in. i really don't know why i hate it so much, just seems like the crappiest lyrics on an album of good writing.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-03 15:05 [#00631217]
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im sure we can all agree "we suck young blood" is pure satyrical genious.
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zaphod
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i don't know about genious. its good, not a personal favorite.
i love where i end and you begin though. the groove near the end with thom repeating the "no more lies" line is amazing.
and the gloaming is awesome as well.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-03 15:10 [#00631228]
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see, im a bit more skeptical towards the electronic stuff on this album than i was on kid a and amnesiac. it seems to fit in with the other material a little less. hopefully that might be different on the final cut.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-04-03 15:11 [#00631233]
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"it seems to fit in with the other material a little less." that is most likely because you're listening to the UNmastered version.
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zaphod
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i'm sure tibbar realises that. i think the electronic stuff fits fine (in the tracklist) and i'm sure it will flow perfectly when the album is finished and released.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-03 15:13 [#00631237]
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no, i mean CONTENT wise. it seems like the majority of it has a more tamed electronic vibe, and then there's backdrifts and gloaming. plus, i think their electronics are kinda dinky on this album, compared to like, pulk/pull revolving doors.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-03 15:14 [#00631238]
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a matter of taste, i suppose... still, his voice is amazing on both songs.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-03 15:14 [#00631240]
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i like these threads. Even though i'll definitly wait until it's released before i listen to the tracks.
I like reading people's description of them. Slowly there forms an image in my head of what the album sounds like... ofcourse when Ã'll hear it eventually it'll be nothing like i imagined.. but still it is fun to slowly feel the anticipation grow. I did the same with amnesiac, and when that one was finally released well... that day was one of the best days of my life :-p
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-03 15:15 [#00631241]
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Lol,I'm sick of hearing about it already. Don't get me wrong,I think its great.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-03 15:25 [#00631263]
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well, since you enjoy it so much, here's my brief stereotypical overview:
1) 2+2=5: starts out very accapella-ish. soft and pretty, gets NASSSTY ROCKIN though. very excited vocals at the end (a la national anthem live)
2) sit down, stand up: once again awesome vocals. builds up slowly and very mthodiclly. sexy, primitive. explodes into a tortoise-esque barage of blips and bops.
3) sail to the moon: awesome piano-based track. even the lyrics seem to very subtly hint at the content of pyramid song. bittersweet.
4) backdrifts: this needs to grow on me more. 5) go to sleep: here's some ok computer in your ear. very nice guitar work here. excellent band performance, overall.
6) where i end and you begin: needs to grow on me. 7) we suck young blood: creepy vampire dirge type jazz/piano track. scary hand claps and thom hitting WEIRD notes with his vox. AWESOME.
8) the gloaming: needs to grow on me. 9) there there: the first single. you can imagine. this album's optimistic.
10) i will: like spinning plates reversed. literally. very beautiful.
11) punch up at a wedding: tarantino lounge funk. got a nice strut to it.
12) myxomatosis: needs to grow on me. 13) scatterbrain: nice song.... kinda short. 14) a wolf at the door: AWESOME. he sing-talks in a "normal" voice. chorus is kinda ok computer-ish (no alarms..). kinda angry sounding. good drums. nice shuffle.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-03 15:37 [#00631284]
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"here's my brief stereotypical overview:"
thanks, that was great. I can almost picture it!
"3) sail to the moon: awesome piano-based track. even the lyrics seem to very subtly hint at the content of pyramid
song. bittersweet."
boy does this sound good! Pyramid song is one of my favourites. The first time i saw that video on tv (also the first time i heard the song)... i just choked up... so beautiful.
And later when i had the album suddenly the lyrics also struck me. I've always been so afraid of death... and then suddenly i heard him sing: "all my lovers were there with me ... there was nothing to fear and nothing to doubt." I had already figured out this song was about death... but that line... it just felt so comforting at that moment :-)
Awesome song.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-04-03 15:41 [#00631290]
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sail to the moon isn't really anything like pyramid song, outside of being piano based.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-03 15:43 [#00631294]
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it reminds me of it, and so it links itself to it by virtue of its subtle thematic tie.
would "starlight prom slowdance song" have been a better description?
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-03 15:45 [#00631301]
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well i also really like Karma Police... and the live version of spinning plates...
radiohead+piano=magic it seems.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-04-03 15:48 [#00631312]
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boy does this sound good! Pyramid song is one of my "favourites. The first time i saw that video on tv (also the
first time i heard the song)... i just choked up... so beautiful."
I agree, I find it weird that the whole amnesiac album hardly ever gets mentioned in here. I think it was their best up until this diamond in the rough came to my attention.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-03 15:50 [#00631317]
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i kinda liked kid a as a whole better than amnesiac... although.... hmmm.
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-03 15:54 [#00631332]
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I miss the simply guitar riffs Johnny used to make,and the raw bass licks.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-03 15:56 [#00631336]
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I can't wait to get it in CD quality sound, but it's not like you can't judge the album now. It's very, very, very good, great even. And it'll improve marginally when it finally comes out, that's good. Radiohead will go down in history as one of the best bands ever to grace this horrid rotating sphere of dirt and water.
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grinningcat
from london (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-03 15:56 [#00631339]
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its fucking awesome man, maybe their best ever!
im trying to delete the mp3s from my comp but i wont allow myself to
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-04-03 15:57 [#00631340]
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that's funny, I have exactly the opposite feelings. I absolutely love
- everything in it's right place - idioteque - morning bell - kid A
but the rest just doesn't do anything for me :\
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-03 15:58 [#00631342]
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tone: i think theres some RAW stuff on httt.
ophecks: get out much??? hehe ;)
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-03 15:59 [#00631344]
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"I find it weird that the whole amnesiac album hardly ever gets mentioned in here"
well i think it's their best album. Took along time to grow on me though. At first it sounded totally incoherent... just a bunch of songs thrown together (it seemed to confirm all the rumours that this were just Kid A-leftovers).
But today i think it flows like no other album before it :-) All these songs definitely belong together... it's like some sort of weird haunting dream.
Knives Out/Morning Bell AMNESIAC... those two songs are the core of the album for me... they both sound so intense and so desperate.
But lots of intruiging things about this album though... like pyramid song and pulk/pull having exactly the same ending... the fact that morning bell was also on Kid A... that strange (but beautiful) intermezzo Hunting Bears... it keeps puzzling me, and the mystery never becomes any smaller. One of the very few Perfect Albums out there i think.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-03 16:01 [#00631350]
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i think the first 2 on httt are the best
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-04-03 16:07 [#00631361]
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amnesiac would have been amazing if they had removed three of the worst tracks they've ever done from it (pulk/pull, hunting bears, and morning bell/amnesiac). if they had inserted almost any of the bsides (worrywort, cuttooth and kinetic would have been nice) in those spots and pumped up i might be wrong to its live fury, i would love that album.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-03 16:12 [#00631370]
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It's like my view is the complete opposite of your view ;-)
"the worst tracks they've ever done from it (pulk/pull, hunting bears, and morning bell/amnesiac)."
morning bell/amnesiac is more like one of the (if not theabout it? It's one of the most emotional-sounding radiohead-tracks ever.
"any of the bsides (worrywort, cuttooth and kinetic would have been nice)"
and see, there you excluded my favourite of the amnesiac b-sides... "fog"! If any of the b-sides should have been on the album (altough i think they were wise not to add any more songs) it should have been fog.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-04-03 16:14 [#00631371]
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ehr... yeah... xltronic fucked up my post a bit there :-/ It looked okay in preview. Now even the sentences are all mixed up.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-04-03 16:14 [#00631372]
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Yeah, I think Amnesiac has some major league clunkers. The only track I skip on Kid A is Treefingers.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-04-03 16:20 [#00631375]
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pulk/pull "8-O <-- flabbergast expression"
ouch one of my favoriteson the album, it's such an awesome abstract masterpiece
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regital
from Baltimore (United States) on 2003-04-03 16:25 [#00631378]
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I love the new Radiohead album and can't even imagine how much better it will sound when mastered.
My favorites are:
"Sail To The Moon" & "Wolf at the Door"
I FUCKING LOVE "Wolf At The Door" I played that on repeat 100 times yesterday.
ZAPHOD___ I hate "Punch Drunk Wedding" Or whatever the fuck it's called too. The lyrics are annoying and musicly that song lacks compared to everything else.
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grm
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-03 16:52 [#00631399]
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well, the greenplastic site says they're unmastered and that colin or someone from the band said he'd DL them and that they're well old versions of the tracks
can't wait for the real thing...
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-04-03 22:15 [#00631670]
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oh man, I started thos topic and ONLY NOW, being here at work, can I join in on it...
I seem to agree with alot of you on which tracks are standout...The Gloaming seems to be my favorite of all, I cannot stop listening to it. Thoms voice is so powerful and beautiful.
The last minute of Sit Down stand up also gives me chills...I would easily give this album 4 maybe 4 and a half stars.
Its growing on me daily. Does anyone think there will be songs that werent leaked on the Official release?...
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Lumbergh
from irvine (United States) on 2003-04-04 00:01 [#00631768]
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I've loved every Radiohead from The Bends through Amnesiac but i don't like this new one so far. The production is horrible, but I'm praying the final versions will change my mind. The live versions are a zillion times better than these mp3s. Wtf happened to Wolf At The Door? It was my favorite song but now its crap, the live version was one of the most dramatic songs Radiohead has ever done. Now it has cheesy instrumentation and no emotion.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-04 00:55 [#00631826]
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if the released it the way it is now nobody would have taken noticed that the tracks actually are unmastered
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-04-04 00:56 [#00631828]
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thats what I think too...besides us AUDIOPHILES who will dissect this beautiful creature for all its worth
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-04 01:43 [#00631888]
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I don't know about that. Like, '2 + 2...' sounds complete, but 'Sit Down...' doesn't, when it goes into that piano bridge and he's just mumbling, it's like a rough guideline. And 'Mixamytosis' (gonna have to learn to spell that one), depsite being one of my favourites is clearly not finished as his vocals become completely indistinguishable towards the end. Love that fucking "tongue-tied" part though.
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-04-04 01:49 [#00631892]
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dunno if stuff like this is floating around. i haven't even checked, really. but for those of you who DON'T have the album...here's a site where you CAN get it (or most of it, anyways...or all of it, maybe. i don't even know).
http://www.idioteque.it/multimedia/audio.htm
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