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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-02 22:52 [#00629762]
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this is the photo shown in the tv special: UFOs 50 years of denial; i finally found it on the web. in the video, the photo is not claimed to be authentic, nothing is said about the photo specificly. yet it's the only photo i've ever seen that looks as if the subject is a real alien. the instant i first saw this pic on tv i was shocked and said holy shit, it's fucking real. i've seen most every picture of supposed aliens and they all look man-made, but not this one. what do you all feel?
click here
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Dinosaur
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-02 23:09 [#00629774]
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it's so tough to determine. I want to believe that it's real. It looks real. But so does that image of Chris Cunningham dressed up in that afx video.
I believe in alien life forms. Just don't know how I feel about photos of aliens; ones with that stereotypical look. It really is tough. Media/movies/tv shows have used that type of creature as "the alien" SO much.
I wanna see real video footage of an alien walking down the street... ha! That would be wicked.
quote from your link: "Sgt. Maj Robert O. Dean, former intelligence analyst discusses a top secret study conducted by NATO in the 1960s entitled “’An Assessment’, classified as Cosmic Top Secret’.”
I have audio mp3s of this guy talking about the 'Assessment'. Damn is it fucking awesome. You can find on the web. I think I downloaded it in 4 or 5 parts. Very convincing and detailed descriptions.
thanks for the pic!
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-02 23:17 [#00629779]
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yea i know it looks like the stereotypical alien. we've all seen tons of images, drawings and supposed photographs, that look very similar to this. so what. no other image has the ring of truth, i'm talking about the physical characteristics of the form, the lines, the shapes. keep in mind that this was not touted as a real photograph when it was originally shown in the video. but not only myself, others have recognized this as possibly real.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-04-02 23:18 [#00629782]
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FAKE!!!
fake
and oh yea.........oh so fake
i'll believe it when i see an alien with my own eyes. the whole roswell thing is a big scam to bring money to a dusty, boring lil town in the desert. i'm sure something crashed......just not sure if it was an ET.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-02 23:21 [#00629786]
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mine's sexier
;)
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-02 23:22 [#00629789]
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you both are crazy! ;) can't you see it's an alien form?!?!
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-02 23:23 [#00629791]
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it's so glaringly obvious
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Dinosaur
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-02 23:23 [#00629792]
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and how!
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Dinosaur
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-02 23:24 [#00629794]
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that was a reply to the sexy alien avatar
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-04-02 23:27 [#00629795]
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yours is MUCH cooler pachi
i believe in YOUR alien, i'll spread the word to ze masses!!! =b
i like that quote from the book 'contact' by carl sagen and i quote loosely!
'i'd be an awfully big waste of space if there werent something else OUT there'
i'd like to have a CLOSE encounter of ANYKIND.....can you imagine. peepz saying you're crazy, and you knowing you're not.......ahhhhh something to look forward to!
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-02 23:29 [#00629798]
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pachi's is obviously a photoshopped photograph of a human!!! (no offence pachi)
AAAAAAGGGGGHHHH!!!!!
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Dinosaur
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-02 23:29 [#00629799]
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and becoming an outcast to your family and society!
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-02 23:33 [#00629803]
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bless you my earthling
=)
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-02 23:35 [#00629805]
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actually it's paint-shop-pro'ed
the dinosaurs are still mad me about the extinction
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-04-02 23:36 [#00629806]
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the real question about aliens, is why, with the vast expanse of space, all 13.7billions years of it, we haven't been contacted??
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wayout
from the street of crocodiles on 2003-04-02 23:38 [#00629811]
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haha.. they probably cant be bothered
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Dinosaur
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-02 23:39 [#00629812]
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what about the idea that aliens are humans from the future?
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-04-02 23:44 [#00629822]
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who came up w/ that one?
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-02 23:58 [#00629842]
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we have been contacted. there are accounts all throughout recorded history and even before, supposedly, in most, if not all cultures.
maybe we are now at a stage in our collective development where the knowledge of advanced civilizations would do more harm than good. it could set us back, make us feel inferior and stop us from advancing. certainly we would get over that hump though.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-03 00:15 [#00629874]
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Give RDJ one of the aliens computers. Then we'd have a real "Melodies from Mars" album!
I just want to here some alien music. It would picture it sounding like AFX or V-Snares.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-03 00:23 [#00629885]
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i'm an abductee, by the way, so i feel i'm not just talking out my ass here.
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Duble0Syx
from Columbus, OH (United States) on 2003-04-03 01:06 [#00629909]
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I believe there is prolly some other life aside from on this planet. It would be ignorant to assume otherwise. The odds of there being other planets with life are pretty good. It's hard to judge the authenticity of this photograph though. Whether or not it's real, I'm sure aliens are in some form. I doubt they look like that, but then again if the government covered it up then the best way to make it seem fake is to publisize the images you want people to think are fake. And since the alien in the picture is the stereotype, that may actually be what they look like. Who really know...I'm tired...goodnight.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-03 01:58 [#00629941]
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alien biology will have visual attributes literally unimaginable to us because all we have seen is earth life. we can't imagine all the forms nature can take.
all other alien autopsy photos, sculptures and whatnot, claimed as real, have the signature of earthbound imagination, that someone with an earthbound and inherently limited imagination, as we all have, imagined them and sculpted them. this specific image, which is no doubt a photo of a 3 dimensional object, is obviously, to me, outside the realm of human imagination. it does not have the earthbound imagination signature.
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Charles D Ward
from ASS, okay? (United States) on 2003-04-03 02:20 [#00629958]
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watch Eraserhead, it has a much better creature in it. done more than 25 years ago!
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-04-03 06:46 [#00630404]
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who invented that stereotypical face? when? First time who I saw that grey face was in the cover of a book, in 1986.
Time ago they were green, little or tall, with antenna but now... they're always shown with grey face, balck eyes, slim and small. Why? There's an uniformity about alien in these last years... probably 'cos their real face is really that.
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Kill Switch
from Belgium on 2003-04-03 06:49 [#00630408]
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Guess it got started with the start of the X files in the early 90ties. One of my favorite shows ever (nickname is favorite episode).
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-04-03 06:49 [#00630410]
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like any intelligent, space farring race would give two shits about us! I mean .. look at us!!! :(
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-04-03 07:12 [#00630435]
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blatantecho: we haven't been contacted b/c it takes too damn long to get anywhere in space! think about it...the next closest star is alpha centauri, which is a few million light years away! LIGHT YEARS, BABY! (light moves at the speed of 3 x 10^5 kps, or 300,000 kilometers PER SECOND). if they could go that fast, then yes, maybe we'd see them, but what if they don't know how to go that fast either? even if you could go faster than the speed of light, it would still take millions of years to get here, and who knows how long aliens live? i definately believe there is life out there, but space is so huge, so big,...so........vast.... anways thats my 2 cents!
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-04-03 07:15 [#00630442]
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do you believe teleportation is possible? i do
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-04-03 07:21 [#00630450]
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sure...i just hope other life forms know about it...but since we haven't really seen them, they probably don't, or maybe it hasn't worked successfully yet....
maybe the cloud city technicians deactivated their hyperdrive at the request of DARTH VADER! blasted empire!
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Laqeuro
from New York City (United States) on 2003-04-03 07:21 [#00630453]
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i believe that of couse there are aliens and other life forms living on the trillions of other planets out there. to think that we are the only planet with life on it is simply dumb. but aliens comming to earth is something i'm unsure off.....
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-03 07:24 [#00630456]
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Why would an alien have two eyes,a nose,a mouth,two arms,two legs?
Pictures of aliens always look human-like because they are made up by humans.
Quite funny really I opened this thread listening to Subterrainian Homesick Alien.
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-04-03 07:25 [#00630457]
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we can already transfer electrical signals wirelessly, but the thing is we have something on the other end that gathers these signals. sending information from point a to point b isn't difficult, the only problem is we don't have a point b. if we could some how use the energy from planets or even objects like rocks as a point b then the next step would be to convert and revert mass into energy. stuff like this is so intresting to me.
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-04-03 07:38 [#00630482]
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neoexmnist: same here, i'm taking a class on stars and galaxies (hence the light speed info), learning about the spectrum, and nuclear fusion, all that stuff. i've always been interested in space and im excited about finally learning about it! i hope that someday we will be able to get to other galaxies and solar systems, it would be such an amazing thing!
tonepu5her: i know what you mean, who knows what they look like? maybe they're just blobs of jelly that use telepathy to control, move, command, create and destroy? do you think they ride bmx bikes? probably not!
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-03 08:19 [#00630539]
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there is a loss for the feeling how crazy and interesting the world actually is for some people.
doesn't that pic say 'i want to believe?' i'd add 'cause it's all so boring if i don't'
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Dinosaur
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-03 08:22 [#00630544]
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it's a good question to ask "why do they have to LOOK humaniod?"
ie, like us with head, arms, etc
but an argument is why not? Why can't the humaniod form exist elsewhere?
We have planets and rocks and valleys that look like earth out in space. hell, space has ice crystals. right? correct me if I'm wrong.
the humaniod shape could be a very stable and logical shape for beings to exist in this "universe". It could be just a rare existence. One that only is created and survives when the climate is balanced.
- when was the stereotypical alien seen? before x-files. alien workshop skateboards were sticking those images on their boards before skully and molder were on tv. Don't know the true answer though. My guess is the 70s.
could be before though. A lot of our alien folklore is very similar to 50s and 60s sci-fi movies ... (flying saucers, little beings, etc). We should do some research on the web.
-Travelling in space is too far? what about the idea of wormholes? like in the movie/book Contact or... I even like the idea in K-Pax. Travelling by energy alone. (or something like that)
Us humans (yes, even the ones in the Univerisites) don't have all the answers.
not trying to do any hating here. Just raising some ideas to brainstorm.
this topic is rockin.
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-04-03 08:33 [#00630558]
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sure is! i'm sure the technology used in sci-fi movies are based on ideas that were or will be used in real life, but will it really work? and who will be the first to die...i mean try? hehe, but i'm no astrophysicist, i don't know how those things even begin to work! more ideas! KEEP THIS THREAD MOVING!!!
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-03 08:34 [#00630559]
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Its people that don't belive in "aliens".
I belive aliens exist mainly because there are many,many planets with water on them.And we all know water=life.
Even if these"aliens" are just bacteria,they will evolve,like infact,we elvoed from bacteria,which some scientists belive came from other planets travelling via meteors,astroids.ect.
Its not a case of "is there other life?" its a case of "how long untill we have the evidence".
And about the radio signals that we are sending,how do we know these aliens will detect these signals?
And think about the size of space alone,how far would the first ever radio frequency have traveled by now?Not very farr considering the pure size of space.
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Dinosaur
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-03 08:35 [#00630562]
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everyone should read: The Mothman Prophecies.
Seriously. Not the same as the movie by far. The movie touches on about 10% of the book.
The book raises some great questions and ideas about these "sightings" humans have reported over the century.
whether they be alien, moth creature, demon, or angel.
a great idea in the book is these creatures are not extra-terrestial (sorry I suck at spelling), but instead they're extra-dimensional.
we coexist with all sorts of weird shit all the time. sometimes our dimensions cross.
John Keel doesn't try to answer "what" they are... He wants to know "why".
Highly recommend this book. It's short and easy to read.
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-03 08:35 [#00630564]
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that should read "its people who don't belive in "aliens" that piss me off"
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-04-03 08:42 [#00630572]
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tonepu5her: what do you mean? mankind is the ONLY worthwhile species in the ENTIRE universe, we are a gift from god and we should embrace our power to control the forces of nature, we are the best, we are number one.
(april fools!)
this is an example of universal racism. FUCK RACISM!
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Dinosaur
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-03 08:49 [#00630580]
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LOL!
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-03 08:52 [#00630583]
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Your the fool,April fools day was on Tuesday(the 1st).
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-04-03 09:00 [#00630587]
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yeah i know, but i didn't do anything so NNYEAH!
but thank you, i am a fool!
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-03 09:04 [#00630589]
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no offence
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-03 09:08 [#00630597]
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I dunno, sounds more like "speciesism" to me- far more justified >:D
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-04-03 09:23 [#00630620]
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oh yeah, that would make more sense....that way we could KILL THE ANIMALS TOOO!
no way, totally kidding, im a vegetarian! SAVE THE ANIMALS! YAY!
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-03 12:39 [#00630950]
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betty and barney hill, the first abductees to report being abducted, in 1961, after the abduction drew a picture that looks like this alien to describe their abductors. why has this image been reported so many times? if it's people's imagination, one could expect reports of all different kinds of looking aliens that people would make up; they'd want to put their own personal spin on it. from the first abduction to the last, everyone reports these kind of aliens!
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-03 12:41 [#00630956]
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click here: a well thought out article that addresses many questions that you have asked and points you have raised.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-04-03 13:06 [#00630973]
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the truth is out there.
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