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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-26 09:07 [#00617512]
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I really can't "understand" this style of music. I just bores me,it doesn't seem listenable at all.Theres no real emotion in it,I need emotion.
Or am I just not listening hard enough?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-26 09:10 [#00617515]
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is there any glitch artist in particular you dont get?
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-03-26 09:13 [#00617521]
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I agree there's virtually no emotion in glitch. I like it though. It's as if the lack of a regular rhythm forms a whole new rhythm. It's hard to explain for me....
Tracks like Recursion (Jega) and the glitchy last 30 secs of Lentic Catachresis give me goosebumps. Weird isn't it?
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-26 09:14 [#00617525]
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cylob - a touch of evil
thats one of the crapiest electronic songs i've heard. it sux. is it glitch?
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-26 09:17 [#00617534]
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what is it? someone tell me... i keep reading about glitch and glitchcore// what does it mean? people using broken gear? if it is ive done loads of glitch tracks
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-26 09:18 [#00617537]
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it's industrial and very repetitive with short sounds
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-26 09:19 [#00617540]
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I'm think of some tracks of Æ,Ep7
Grantz Graf is definatly glitch.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-03-26 09:20 [#00617541]
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I think Fennesz - Endless Summer and Jim O'Rourke - I'm happy, and I'm singing, and a 1, 2, 3, 4 are emotional...
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-03-26 09:21 [#00617543]
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Wait a minute....
Tonepusher, you don't happen to mean glitchCORE, right? Cos that's entirely different stuff....V/Vm does it and it's very odd and fucked up.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-26 09:21 [#00617545]
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its not emotional, but its pretty good!
that is if matmos are considered glitch :)
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-26 09:25 [#00617554]
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I'm thinking of æ
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-26 09:27 [#00617558]
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hmm not much clearer.. i mean ive got Jim O'Rourke - I'm happy, and I'm singing and ive got gantz graf as well but i dont see what's so similar about them.. one's kind of clicky ambient and the other's like a full on knife attack.. imho..
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-26 09:31 [#00617563]
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I just don't understand them,its just blips,no real construction.
I think they're (ae and others) are just playing with its listeners,seeing how much shit they'll painfully listen too.
btw:This is my 1600 post!I missed my 1500.
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-26 09:32 [#00617564]
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what's real construction? like a building or something? is there a record like that? i want it now
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-03-26 09:32 [#00617565]
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AMG's definition :
As computer-aided composition slowly eclipsed the traditional analog approach to crafting electronica, the palette of possible sounds soon widened immensely, resulting in the advent of the clicks + cuts style in the late '90s. No longer was the artist confined to sequenced percussion, synth, and samples, but rather any imaginable sound, including the uncanny realm of digital glitches — a possibility that was quickly exploited by a generation of youths with the means to create entire albums in their bedroom with only a computer and the right software. Where early-'90s analog-toting pioneers such as Aphex Twin and Autechre had envisioned the quickly diminishing areas of electronica that had not yet been explored, and, simultaneously, another insular group of pioneers led by Robert Hood and Basic Channel stripped away the elements of electronica that had ultimately become little more than ineffective cliché, a second wave of computer-armed protégés studied these aesthetics and used software to create microscopically intricate compositions harking back to these pioneers. First championed by the ideological German techno figure Achim Szepanski and his stable of record labels — Force Inc, Mille Plateaux, Force Tracks, Ritornell — this tight-knit scene of experimental artists creating cerebral hybrids of experimental techno, minimalism, digital collage, and noise glitches soon found themselves being assembled into a community. Though artists such as Oval, Pole, and Vladislav Delay, among others, had initially been singled out by critics beforehand, Mille Plateaux's epic Clicks_+_Cuts compilation first defined the underground movement, exploring not only a broad roster of artists but also a wide scope of approaches. The artists on the compilation, along with a small community of visionary artists in the software-savvy San Francisco/Silicon Valley area of California led by the Cytrax label, soon found themselves as the critically hailed leaders of yet another electronica movement. It wasn't long
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-03-26 09:33 [#00617566]
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...before the clicks + cuts aesthetic began being bred with existing genres, resulting in endless variations on the aesthetic such as MRI's click-driven house and Kid-606's glitch remix of N.W.A.'s "Straight Outta Compton."
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-26 09:34 [#00617567]
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hahahaha shit!! so its not the sound of machines breaking down, it's people SIMULATING the sound of machines breaking down././ i see... oh dear.
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-26 09:36 [#00617568]
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I still say the artist are testing our loyalty.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2003-03-26 09:42 [#00617571]
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glithc artists
Phoenecia - brownout album... extremely emotional and organic glitch
Some Kid 606 is glistch and i find quite emeotional ... "PS I love you" ep for example.. Force Inc
Oval has lovely glithy rhythmns too.......
i think mostly glitch is about rythmns, layersing, buildups etc and the ones i like get right under my skin.
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-26 09:42 [#00617572]
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it doesnt make you feel anything. sure. but thinking that was the intention of the artist (for you not to like it) is as bad as thinking you understand what someone's lyrics are about, or thinking that little smile the newsreader gives at the end of every broadcast is just for you...
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-03-26 09:49 [#00617581]
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Pimento by Lost Weight is all you need, but you'll never find it.
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-26 09:54 [#00617588]
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is it in that pile you've got there? hand it over
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Paco
from Gothenburg (Sweden) on 2003-03-26 10:18 [#00617609]
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There are some incredibly shitty glitch music out there. Ganz Graf being a prime example.
One great glitchy track is C/Pach, also by Autechre.
-P
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George_Kaplan
on 2003-03-26 10:21 [#00617611]
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i cant hear any glitches in gantz graf but i know theres a few in c/pach.
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2003-03-26 13:00 [#00617847]
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wow glitch has been my favorite "genre" for this week..... i dunno what everyone is complaining about .... i think it's great stuff
otto von schirach's new albumn is a glitch masterpiece...
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-03-26 13:49 [#00617920]
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Fennesz is grreat
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RobE
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-26 14:23 [#00617980]
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Looks like it's just u and me that likes this kinda stuff.
C'mon fellow glitchers,speak up!!
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ferry
from Cayman Islands on 2003-03-26 14:38 [#00618018]
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glitch rules
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-26 14:39 [#00618022]
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I know people like it,I just don't know why they do,I was just curious.
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RobE
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-26 15:08 [#00618076]
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The breakdown in the beats,is synchronised with the breakdown in the mind......
*chuckle*
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-03-26 17:39 [#00618354]
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c/pach is a great fucking song, i don't remember any glitch being in that song, though.....
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-03-26 18:44 [#00618444]
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maybe it's just that you don't dig it... I mean, I find some glitch very emotional... so, it's not that the genre isn't emotional, it's just you don't find it to be... the song Geometry by Jega is beautiful!
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rF
from __e____e_________e______q_____ (Australia) on 2003-03-26 19:50 [#00618540]
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i like glitch music, but not full on glitch noise stuff without melody or beats.. i like gantz graf, at first i didnt because when i heard it on the radio i didnt notice that it was a pattern, but after i bought it and watched the video everything made sense.. but i dont like full glitch wankery tracks like bine..
although rettic ac, glitch or not, is fucking awesome..
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blobula
from BElgraDe on 2003-03-26 20:55 [#00618612]
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glitch is the sound eqiuvalent of the emotion, of the reality, only minimalised in its form and looped to remind you.....oh god....i like it soooooo
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loaderror
from kansas city (United States) on 2003-03-26 21:01 [#00618615]
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listen to oval's ovalprocess and ovalcommers then formulate your opinion about glitch music, because that's the pinnacle... i don't think stuff like fennesz is "glitch" in the purest sense, what with the actual acoustics etc. :)
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corn_mouth
from santiago (Chile) on 2003-03-26 21:32 [#00618626]
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TonePu5her: shuttup and listen to this masterpiece:
the rip-off artist "pump"
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TokyoJo
from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2003-03-26 22:15 [#00618651]
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The tracks on HAB2 (every day, arched maid via rdj) - could these be described as glitch?
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