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offline vamason from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-03-24 19:25 [#00614079]
Points: 132 Status: Regular



Check this webpage out... maybe it'll change your views on
the supposed "peaceful" religion of Islam
http://www.ramshornjournal.com/page21.html

sorry, not sure how to make it a link


 

offline vamason from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-03-24 19:29 [#00614081]
Points: 132 Status: Regular



oops, wrong link, though still applicable... i meant to
paste THIS one:
http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/koran.html

sorry


 

offline corticalbanned on 2003-03-24 19:29 [#00614082]
Points: 13 Status: Addict



although it is a convincing story - why should believe a
small site like this with poor design and a hit cound of
under 400?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-03-24 19:32 [#00614084]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker



This so-called holy book is also filled with
cruelty and idiocy.



 

offline vamason from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-03-24 19:36 [#00614088]
Points: 132 Status: Regular



i'm a christian and don't deny any of those things and
believe them to be just, yet muslims deny all the scriptures
calling for murder of christians and jews in their "holy"
book
also, the bible does not condone killing people who disagree
with your beliefs... the scriptures calling for execution
are referring to execution by the state, not mere civilians


 

offline vamason from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-03-24 19:39 [#00614090]
Points: 132 Status: Regular



i think it is necessary for me to add that i do not condone
cruelty to muslims and think they should be treated with
love and kindness, but i DO think their religion is evil


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-03-24 19:40 [#00614091]
Points: 8984 Status: Lurker



And after all this the LORD smote him in his bowels with an
incurable disease.--2 Chr.21:18

that's pretty sick, man

=(


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-03-24 19:41 [#00614092]
Points: 8984 Status: Lurker



wait a min..

it's random?!


 

offline optimus prime on 2003-03-24 19:43 [#00614094]
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haha.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-03-24 19:44 [#00614095]
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good thing i'm not religious


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-03-24 19:47 [#00614096]
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All I can tell you is keep reading the bible with an open
mind. If that doesn't deconvert you, nothing will. :-)


 

offline vamason from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-03-24 19:47 [#00614097]
Points: 132 Status: Regular



that's what you think... :)


 

offline vamason from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-03-24 19:48 [#00614098]
Points: 132 Status: Regular



i'm not implying that you're going to hell or anything, just
so you know... i'm also not being sarcastic here


 

offline vamason from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-03-24 19:51 [#00614099]
Points: 132 Status: Regular



fleetmouse, i'm also a calvinist, so i believe in the
PERSEVERANCE OF THE SAINTS, to wit, no true christian can
lose his faith


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-03-24 19:52 [#00614100]
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No true Scotsman puts milk in his oatmeal.


 

offline Red from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-03-25 00:30 [#00614253]
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Ha look at this hypocrisy as soon as fleas back is turned
you are posting anti muslim threads on the board. Go and
read a fucking bible.

Typical American response - bully boys of the world
exploiting muslims for the sake of bloody oil. Sept 11 was
an excuse to exploit muslims and the war on Afghanisation
and now Iraq is a crime against humanity. What have the
Iraqis done to America - threaten to cut off your oil
supply. Swim in Iraqi blood fucker



 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-25 01:29 [#00614291]
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i think thats a terrible thing to say.



 

offline danbrusca from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-25 01:31 [#00614295]
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I hate all religions equally ;)


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-25 01:37 [#00614299]
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vamason, don't you realise that your faith and their faith
are just variants of the same fucking old faith that has
existed since some sumerians.. people just make them
different. if you are saying 'their religion is evil' you
are at the same time saying YOUR religion is evil.

people always warned me of muslims - but now that i know a
few i don't see the point. horrible things are done in the
name of christianity as well, look at georgewbush and his
god-meant war.


 

offline TonePu5her from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-25 01:38 [#00614302]
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"no true christian can
lose his faith "

I am Pagan,the Christian term "pagan" means someone who once
was Christian.Its says so in your "Bible".

But lets not bitch about religion,thats how most problems in
this world start,and I think we've got enough of those
lately,don't you?



 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-25 01:47 [#00614314]
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to talk of 'evil' is a classic dual problem

the idea that things are black and white, theres is one
superior good where theres one infinitely bad, and so on and
so on, this to me seems like a very unhealthy way of looking
at things

the more a person divides up their perspective, albeit in an
effort to clarify, in effect it only clouds ones view of
reality




 

offline TonePu5her from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-25 01:53 [#00614319]
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It took me a while to understand what your post meant,now I
understand,I still don't know why you posted it.
Who/what was it directed at?


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-25 01:54 [#00614322]
Points: 5924 Status: Regular | Followup to rockenjohnny: #00614314



i am quite a dualist although i try not to be. if your
good/evil talk was directed to me, johnny, i wasn't trying
to point out which is which, i was just demonstrating to
vamason how he speaks himself into a bag (ha that phrase
didn't translate well)


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-25 01:57 [#00614326]
Points: 7983 Status: Lurker



sorry, my wording wasnt the best

it just comes to mind when the topic of 'evil' comes up

ive read a lot into buddhist philosophies and they make more
sense to me than anything else

<- looks for a link regarding duality, and the goals of
breaking down duality




 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-25 02:01 [#00614329]
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im not surprised this is being taken personally, because
duality is so heavily embedded in modern culture. it makes
sense to me though, the process of freeing yourself from
duality achieves a person freedom from preconception,
oneness with themselves and their surroundings.. and so on.


im still looking for a good link or two.. from memory a
fantastic text outlining the similarities between religions
and the problem of duality is ken wilbur's 'the spectrum of
consciousness'



 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-25 02:03 [#00614332]
Points: 7983 Status: Lurker



but no my comment was only directed at the concept of
'evil', which i have am in disagreement with



 

offline Kill Switch from Belgium on 2003-03-25 02:04 [#00614334]
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Every religion has its fanatics and they've been nothing but
trouble through history.
But is this a religion war? Guess not, it handles an even
bigger root of evil, £$¤ money £$¤.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-25 02:04 [#00614335]
Points: 7983 Status: Lurker



<- gets a coffee to mend his typing

im no true buddhist just yet :)



 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-25 02:05 [#00614337]
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yeah when religion becomes involved in a territorial /
economic feud, you can be guaranteed its going to get
messy.



 

offline TonePu5her from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-25 02:07 [#00614340]
Points: 3640 Status: Regular



Ah,Buddhism one of th most philosophical religions there
is.They have some amazing concepts,especially Zen.
I have a few books on the subject.
I would love to have started praticing,but I am not as
commited as Buddhism requires.
I think I read a book by Ken Wilbur,I think.I'll have a
search for "The spectrum of Consciousness"


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-25 02:08 [#00614341]
Points: 5924 Status: Regular



oh, i didn't take it personally. i am all for the one world
spirit which can manisfest itself as two dual powers.

religion is used to justify lots of things. that is where it
has gone wrong.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-03-25 02:27 [#00614376]
Points: 7983 Status: Lurker



wow this just hit me like a ton of bricks

part time party animals like myself watch out!

http://www.amaterra.org/zen.html



 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-03-25 06:24 [#00614832]
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I'd rather befriend a moslem than a christian


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-25 06:46 [#00614868]
Points: 47414 Status: Moderator



I agree with rockenjohnny on the "good/evil"-thing. thats
hardly how the real world works. its not that black
and white.

so saying that a whole religion is evil sounds really silly
to me.


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-03-25 15:28 [#00615953]
Points: 2901 Status: Lurker



it's not the religions that are evil, it's the people that
falsely claim justification to their actions through it.
They take a part from a holy scripture and bend it to fit
their vision. In essence the core of all religions, although
coming through different channels, basically preach the same
virtues, but they get eagerly overlooked and smothered by
people as they feel those virtues are the most difficult
things to attain and maintain.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-25 15:30 [#00615959]
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That's a little bigotted, don't you think?


 

offline WeaklingChild from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-25 15:30 [#00615961]
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a wee bit bigotted, yes


 

offline FLUX on 2003-03-25 15:34 [#00615978]
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Christianity is nota real religion.
It was invented by St.Paul.
All Jesus wanted was to reform Judaism. And he was born to a
mother and a father.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-03-25 15:34 [#00615981]
Points: 18042 Status: Lurker



Gee, you don't suppose he's... trolling?

That doesn't seem like something Marlowe would do.


 

offline tango from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-25 15:35 [#00615986]
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i wouldnt - but yer fundamentalists on both sides are
fuckheads


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-03-25 15:43 [#00616019]
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yeah, the bible promises that jesus will take care of the
ethnic cleansing in the second coming. so it's alright,
cause jesus will kill for us!


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2003-03-25 15:58 [#00616087]
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What has this to do with anything !? The religion of the
IRAQ is a mix between Muslim & Christian.

The muzzies have killed an order of magnitude less people
than the "civilized" countries in the last century


 

offline vamason from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-03-25 17:25 [#00616311]
Points: 132 Status: Regular



i didn't think expressing my opinion would cause so many
people to talk shite on me :)


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-03-25 17:26 [#00616313]
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religion are for weak people, god are for the weaks


 

offline Peter File from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2003-03-25 17:30 [#00616318]
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I'm sure people didn't think expressing their
opinions would cause you to dismiss them as shite


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-03-25 18:02 [#00616404]
Points: 1121 Status: Regular



can everyone just relax when it comes to people having
beliefs different to yous. everyone is so quick to argue
with other people on this board over stupid shit, when was
the last music thread ever as big as any anti war thread..
this board is just one hateful topic after the next, whats
going on


 

offline grinningcat from london (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-25 18:06 [#00616410]
Points: 1073 Status: Lurker



im a muslim by the way

and that translation on THAT website is completely shit, it
has been translated by a nobody, and blatantly taken out of
context n stuff... so that website is a joke.

if islam was truely evil, and muslims were hell bent on
taking over the world, they would have done it by now, as
its the biggest religion in the world!

erm but they havent as islam is not evil or any of that.

bye!


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-25 22:27 [#00616787]
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vamason, i don't want to talk shite about you, strong
opinions are always cool but i can't believe you can say so
bad things about people who are almost yer brothers. if you
truly believe you will HOPEFULLY realisse this..


 

offline DeLtoiD from Ontario on 2003-03-25 23:47 [#00616863]
Points: 2934 Status: Lurker



vam, yer a dick.

*heres your cookie... thanks for finding this wonderful slab
of BS from the
"kingdom alert"



 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-03-25 23:51 [#00616868]
Points: 22557 Status: Lurker



fuckin white people


 


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