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I'm listening to this album right now with my headphones on and for the first time I notice how much I love the fuzzy fab tone distortion on this album. I love the everlasting sound of this album, too bad it's very underrated. Any opinions on this album? It's my favorite SP release together with mellon collie & the infinite sadness. |
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its the only SP album i've got and i love it, gonna get mellon collie soon |
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You should, mellon collie is a great album. SP are good musicians, too bad they split up. |
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what do you think of Zwan, i'm pretty impressed so far, i like the single and a track i've heard off the album. I'd get it if i didn't have so many other albums i want to get :) |
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tortoise |
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I haven't heard anything by zwam yet. I hope it's any good :) tibbar: tortoise? |
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david pajo from zwan was in 2 excellent bands before this: tortoise and slint. he played guitar in both. he also has a solo project which has been around as long as those other 2 called papa m (sometimes aerial m) i recommend: tortoise - standards slint - spiderland papa m - whatever, mortal |
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thank you, will download :) |
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no-one ownes machina? too bad :( |
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did you dl any of that yet? |
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nope, soulseek isn't working. Starting it up makes my system unstable. |
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machina 2 also has some good stuff on it but its kind of inconsistent. machina has some excellent tracks like glass and the ghost children, blue skies bring tears but a few of em kind of annoy me (wound, try try try) but overall I like it a lot and the artwork in the booklet is really good too. Slint, Tortoise and papa m\aerial m is good too but Zwan doesnt cut it for me; pajo is hardly noticeable on the songs--i think he was just thrown in their for indie cred oh well its still better than most stuff out there on the radio etc. |
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yes there are a few annoying tracks on the album, but you always find a couple of annoying tracks on SP albums. At least one. But it's often overshadowed by amazing tracks. I think adore is my least favorite album. |
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I love the new Zwan albulm more than machina im a bug sp/zwan fan but machina had some awsome tracks my favourite release would be mellon collie , or adore |
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I HAVE IT I dont believe in Corgans view which he totally pressed on in that one song, which I love. But this album is great, his songs are great, and very deep in meaning...he knew what he was doing with this album I ALSO HAVE Machina II....that one is a bit extreme, I would definetly have to be in the mood to listen to that album |
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i liked the new zwan single sort of i dont really like machina that much |
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"Zwan" pisses me off Corgan has always bashed poppy bands and here he is with a band called "Zwan" and looking like hes going to fuck that chick in the video....hes a hypocrite, he left smashing pumpkins and is with this shit?? woooo massive hate!! |
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machina is good, but i like machina ii better, very dirty sounding, and some really hard rockin pumpkins! (see dross, cash car star, white spider, lucky 13, etc...) |
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Yeah, thats what I mean by being the mood for some crazy shit |
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machina is hit or miss for me. Just doesn't hold up to SD or MellonCollie. I don't know if I expected it too, but well, I dunno. Mary Star of the Sea was a dissapointment for me as well, so maybe my tastes have just changes? |
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WOW. well i can't expect more than this on an electronic-based message board, but The Pumpkins are my favorite band, and have been for years now...Billy has got to be the best conventional songwriter I've heard in my life... And anyone bashing Zwan for so-called poppiness, keep in mind if you were writing sad space songs for 13 years, you might want to cheer up some too. And if anyone wants to really know Zwan, look up their boots from the past year or so...its much different than the record. |
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We talk about everything here spaced =) but ZWAN can kiss my ass with that lovely love love music....honesty |
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hit or miss thats a new foudn glory album =) |
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i much prefer mellon collie and adore but machina has a few good tracks. i.e stand in side your love |
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Okay, just dont compare NFG to Pumpkins. |
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yeah that song is great. I do prefer mellon collie better, but they have other good albums |
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NEVER! you should know me better than that monkey ass |
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interesting to see people with machina as their first pumpkin album. cause among the fans machina is slagged. deservedly so, to an extent, but there are some pretty tracks on it. machina is the new pumpkins whereas everything before that is old pumpkins, and thus rated much more highly by fans. if you like machina, try to get a hold of the Rotten Apples greatest hits 2 disc edition. the second disc on that one contains mostly unreleased adore/machina era tracks. |
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To be perfectly honest I d say Machina is one of the better Pumpkins albums. Combined with Machina 2 and the Machina EP's its great. So there. MIDGET IN THE HAT |
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well it's certainly the most ambitious album. whether it lives up to its pretentious background story is a matter of opinion. if you're new to the pumpkins and want to find out more, better not go to netphoria, cause any machina appraisal will be met with instant flaming, especially if it's coming from a 'newbie'. smashing pumpkins mb talk ruined lots of good tracks for me, anyway... |
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sounds good, I will download that when I've fixed soulseek, cuz it's not working. thanks :) |
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