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fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-03-21 15:09 [#00608170]
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Any Java programmers here? Anyone recommend a good book?

I am sick of getting burned on computer books... I bought
like 3 or 4 Python books before I came across one that
actually had practical instructions for learning the
language (Python 2.2 Bible, in case anyone's interested).

Something that covers JDBC and Swing would be nice - I'm
going to be programming a database front end to replace our
aging character-based application.

Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2003-03-21 15:12 [#00608173]
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Thinking In Java by Bruce Eckel...

Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2003-03-21 15:13 [#00608176]
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It's not about Swing and JDBC, but it explais the basic OO
principles like polymorphism, inheritance, etc.

-V- from Ensenada Drive on 2003-03-21 15:24 [#00608193]
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I have Deitel and Deitel's "Java - How to Program". It goes
through all of the basic programming topics such as program
structure, arrays, and the like... It goes through
graphical applets and even has sections on OOD. There is
one version of the book that comes with a "Cyber Classroom"
CD that takes you step by step through all of the example
programs in the book, almost in painful detail - good for
learning it. It's a little expensive though - around $100,
I think.

Joyrex from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-03-21 15:28 [#00608202]
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The O'Reilly series of books on Java are great - check them
out at http://www.oreilly.com

Ctrl Alt Del from Ft. Worth (United States) on 2003-03-21 15:34 [#00608218]
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yea java in a nutshell is quite good

fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-03-21 15:44 [#00608235]
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Hmmmmm..... the Eckel book is available as a free download
so maybe I'll check that out first. Though the reviews on
Amazon indicate that it's written from a C++ perspective
which I don't know....

Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2003-03-21 15:48 [#00608240]
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Yeah, the guy also wrote Thinking in C++. Go
figure...

fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-03-21 15:56 [#00608245]
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So are you like Polynomial-C++?

Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2003-03-21 16:02 [#00608251]
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And at the moment i'm also a bit Polynomial-C#

fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-03-21 16:42 [#00608281]
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Well now, you seem like a learned fellow, so I'll come right
out and ask:

If you were going to build a GUI database front end, what
would you use? Do you think Java's a good/bad choice for
that? I know from expedience that it's not the swiftest
client language on earth, but I was checking out the Sun One
IDE and it handles a lot of what I need - a database
abstraction layer, generation of forms from metadata... ??

Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2003-03-21 16:50 [#00608296]
Points: 1362 Status: Regular | Followup to fleetmouse: #00608281

I would choose Java, Delphi, Visual Basic or C#. Java and C#
use VM's, so they're a bit slower. They all have easy
ODBC/JDBC acces (and DAO/ADO in VB)

Maybe you should just stick to the language you already know
(if any)

Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2003-03-21 16:52 [#00608301]
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Oh yeah, C# also has the infrastructure for metadata-driven
UI layout

fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-03-22 09:13 [#00609397]
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I know a proprietary database language called DQL and I know
Python, that's about it. I started learning C once but
decided it wasn't practical for what I wanted to do - I need
a higher level language.

Delphi I've heard good things about - especially speed and
ease of development. But I'm afraid of Borland getting taken
over by say Microsoft so they can drive a knife into the
back of those non MS alien dev tools.

I really wish Python and WXPython were embedded in IE and
Mozilla 'cause they rock. I've run a few GUI apps done in
WXPython and they're as fast as native code.

I guess I'm going to start down the Java path because it's
browser embeddable, it has the support tools and libraries
to ease what I want to do, and it's multiplatform. Aw hell
everyone else is doing it. :-)

fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-03-25 16:11 [#00616148]
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The Eckel book is very good. He seems to know his shit, and
he writes well and he doesn't try to be too clever or cute
which is the downfall of many a tech author. I think I'll
get me a hard copy.

Polynomial-C from Netherlands, The on 2003-03-25 16:13 [#00616161]
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OK, good luck ;-)

jand from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-25 16:15 [#00616169]
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check out http://www.proce55ing.net/

Still on Alpha but e me and I'll get you on the Alpha test
list...

very very smooth way to ease yourself into JAVA....

alos check... http://www.yayhooray.com/thread/18274.html ..
loads of great resources mentioned there...

(I'm learning JAVA myself ....endless fun as I'm also
learning C# & .NET at the same time......MY BRAIN HURTS
:)....

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