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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-03-21 07:35 [#00607342]
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We are trying to book our second anti-war meeting but they are now asking the police about our meeting, since if we invite members of the public to join our meeting, they are concerned about safety.
How stupid is that? Dissent is being silenced.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-21 07:43 [#00607351]
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Completely responsible of them- can you imagine if they let Looney lefties into the assembly building? It's a situation waiting to happen...
Or do you mean a public meeting?
At this state in the game all anti-war protests will just reduce morale of our own troops, not to mention eating tax payers money (which could be better spent on education) in police escorts etc. After being mocked over 'nam for years the USA won't pull out now...
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2003-03-21 07:45 [#00607354]
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I think they're just trying to avoid a clash between supporters and protesters, which could turn violent by either side if things get heated. Unless they won't grant your meeting, I think it's okay what they are doing.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-21 07:48 [#00607362]
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Yeah I was actually thinking on the way to work yesterday, I may to anti war demo and stand in front of them and shout "Shame on you". Always good to put yourself in front of a crowd that are not happy with you. Does wonders for your self confidence and besides, there'd be loads of police to protect me.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-03-21 07:49 [#00607363]
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Fuck the troops! They should just mutiny. THEN they'll get my support.
And We are not wasting public money the GOVERMENT are on this war. Policing of demos will not cost 15 billion.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-21 07:51 [#00607367]
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But the 15 billion will pay for itself in all the oil we'll steal :D
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-03-21 07:51 [#00607368]
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But this is a sleepy town and we are talking about a small anti-war group, not a confrontation of any kind. there will be no pro-war people in the vicintity; none that would bother with us anyway.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-21 07:54 [#00607370]
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All the protesters in Swansea yesterday blocked off the bus route/shopping section/pub crawl street by lying in the middle of the road.
Actually they may have just been the local tramps pissed on Special Brew
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-21 08:01 [#00607376]
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Teabag and co. up to their tricks eh?
Protesting that way is inconsiderate and highly antisocial. If it delayed me for anything remotely important I'd get out my car and give one of them a kicking.
Jonesy: In response to XLR- you're right, I bet most of the people in Cardiff don't even know there's a war on ;)
Seriously, I don't think anyone would bother you and it does seem a little harsh. Is this a protest at work or in the street?
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Cfern
from Sacto (United States) on 2003-03-21 08:02 [#00607378]
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ceri, i like your style.... here's to cheap oil.... it's fucking 2.20 a gallon in cali right now
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-03-21 08:10 [#00607386]
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You could try Ceri but you'd take a severe beating by a very large crowd. We may want peace but we ain't pussies.
And its a meeting.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-21 08:16 [#00607391]
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So much for peaceful protest, eh? The police would fucking dick you in a few minutes. They love and excuse to give any sort of crowd a beating.
I might do this as a way of getting the anti-war lot some bad press, if I there's one in Bristol this weekend (NB Bristol have absolutely shit loads of riot police so I'd be quite safe...)
Again, is this "meeting" in the assembly building or out on the street?
Cfern: I calculated that this war has already cost me 2 cheap white labels in increased petrol prices. Makes me seethe.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-21 08:20 [#00607392]
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Ah sorry, I just realised which post you were following up to... I thought you meant I'd get a kicking for shouting "shame on you" - I thought it'd be a bit hypocritical for a peaceful protest not to respect my right to protest.
Seriously, don't you think antisocial protest like lying in the road just pisses people off and actually has a negative effect?
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2003-03-21 08:24 [#00607399]
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I'd love if some terrorists launched some bio/chemical weapons on these protesters. That would be sweet.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-21 08:28 [#00607405]
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Yeah, I would actually piss myself if an anti war protestor was on the recieving end of terrorist attack. Doomsday is coming and it's non-partisan pal, etc ;)
It's like that animal rights protestor who complained about that thing in Spain where bulls run through the streets... her shouting enraged the bull and it gored her to death. Unpleasent, but not without a touch of humour.
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2003-03-21 08:34 [#00607420]
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Was the article mentioned here about the two protesters fell/jumpedoff the Golden Gate Bridge ?
They fell to their death. Serves them right.
-2nd Bridge Fall Kills Foe of War- All afternoon long, co-workers said, Paul Alladin Alarab's 9-year-old son called the office looking for his father. But Alarab, a 44-year-old Iraqi American, deeply troubled by the looming war, was already dead at the bottom of the Golden Gate Bridge on Wednesday after what authorities described as a protest suicide.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-21 08:38 [#00607430]
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I know this will enrage a lot of peopel here, but I really think a lot of protesting is just as much attention seeking by being seen to go "against the grain" as it is about whatever the issue. I even know a couple of people who go to protests regardless of what their in aid of.
Reminds me of a story my (hippy) father told me: One day at college a mate said to him, "Let's have a sit in!"
"What about?" "If we sit in for 10 minutes we'll think of something..."
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-21 08:38 [#00607431]
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Given that the past week as seen more vociferous and disruptive demos it can hardly be surprising if they want to get police advice first, particularly as it opens them up to possible legal action if someone got injured.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-21 08:42 [#00607438]
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I know someone who will, quite literally throw bricks into any antiwar demos he encounters...
It's probably as much for the protestors safety as anything they're consulting the police. Crazy stuff tends to happen when mob mentality sets in.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-21 09:01 [#00607488]
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He he, I just realised you could draw parallels between this thread and what goes on on the soulcrew's MB. I was going to place a link, but their website is down.
Needless to say Jonesy, I wouldn't attack you if you lay in the road in front of my car. I'd just chuck some S club in the stereo & crank it up to make you shift :P
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