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recycle from drukqs on 2001-10-03 14:52 [#00038848] | |||||||||
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the topic says it all.......... its ok to listen to, but i dont think im buyin it......... |
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you kunt -- buy some DJ KRUSH thad you loser! |
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dj krush isn't always trip hop.... |
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it kinda bores me..I think I od'd on it 5 years ago |
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don't be a spazmo - AFX isn't always drill'n'bass, but if someone didn't like drill'n'bass you would say "listen to aphex twin then!" so they would hear some quality! all the DJ KRUSH i've ever heard (i have 4CDs and several mp3s has been trip hop) |
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what would you call Witchman? |
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i like (some) trip hop, thought the term seems to be largely abused - and ambiguous, either that or i only like a small portion of trip hop! dj krush is quite nice, though it can get a bit boring .. splitrmx by autechre i would consider some wicked trip hop (perhaps more down beat) ? |
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i am unfamiliar with that artist :( |
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he's pretty good..a lot of range in his stuff..that's why I find it hard to tag him..some stuff is almost drill..but mostly downbeat..illbient..I guess trip hop without vocals and pop appeal is illbient..am I about right? |
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so many things get lumped in as trip hop...how can you compare dj shadow to coldcut? ooh, they both use downtempo breaks so they've got to be the same... |
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sounds good, fleamarket! i will check him out! :) yeah trip hop is becoming too vague b3n, you're right -- but there are new terms springing up all over the place - i like the term illbient for instance - i know a lot of people think of a piano melody over some running water when the term AMBIENT is used :D |
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fleamarket..I like that:) and whatabout Funki Porcini?I love Funki Porcini..it gets lumped with trip hop..but some of it is IDM..and other drilly d'n'b... |
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what is the 'ill' in illbient for then? |
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funki porcini? what a great name! sounds like an italian rodent! |
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ILLBiENT, as far i understand it, is dark ambient, with an edgy suspenseful, terror-filled feel to it -- well probably the definition is a little more lax than that |
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listen 2 Portishead, Portishead, and say that again! |
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ill=dark..spooky..DJ Spooky..as a matter of fact..:) funny that :) his ashphodel is THE illbient label and yeah Portishead still grabs me:) |
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portishead are nice and denali howie b and fila brazillia |
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i like old howie b, but "folk"? what a waste of money |
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my first impression on folk was the same but after i heard it about 20 times i really started to like it |
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global goon is classified as trip hop.... so I guess I like trip hop. |
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i like it |
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oh wait... dj krush IS trip hop.... I was confusing it with drill n bass... hehe |
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hahah, and i'm sure global goon IS NOT trip hop, I can tell you that much |
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Hooverphonic is trip hop. They are Belgian. Anyone who knows them? |
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i have their's A NEW STEREOPHONIC SOUND SPECTACULAR i especially like 2 WICKY which is on stealing beauty soundtrack |
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Their lataest album 'the magnificent tree' is the best they have done so far. (because they have a new singer?) It is worth checking. |
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You know, I read the thread title and got kinda pissed, and went in to rebut, and then noticed that it said "I don't like trip-hop", not "I don't like Hip-Hop". Trip-hop may seem boring to you, cause it is boring. |
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I personnally hate the term Trip hop used to classify music into a genre. There a very few bands/musicians that i would classify trip hop. The only person i can think of that fits trip hop is Beck. Trip hop is like a band with a singer/emcee, and DJ that doesnt want to be classified as RAP/HIPHOP, or for songs that are a wierd bpms like 108 bmp. Ambient - Usually no drums or specific BPM. Down Tempo - 60-85 BPM. Slow hip hop and certain styles of house can be classified downtempo. Hip hop/rap- 85-99 bpm. House/Trance-120-140 BPM Drum & Bass/Jungle- 160-180 BMP Drill & Bass 180-200+ bpm Experimental- 0-200+ bpm. Using uncoventional sounds. Doing something with sound that has never been done before etc. Dj KRUSH, Dj Shadow- Hip hop Portishead- downtempo hiphop, organic electronic. Massive Attack- downtempo, hiphop, electronica. Radio head- downtempo, electronica. Funki Porcini- downtempo. Hip hop. Drum&bass, depending on the track. |
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genre isnt defined by tempo -- apart from the obvious like gabba and happy hardcore |
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but then again labels like ninja tunes go out of their way blanket labeling everything they have got as trip hop when a lot of it so obviously isn't..Coldcut for one..and Funki Porcini..though I did find it surprising that while so many were singing the IDM virtues of Amon Tobin and Cujo..I found a lot of it to be nothing more than beefed up trip hop.. |
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oh, and 01) what's between 140&160bpm? 02) why is 108bpm a "weird" tempo? |
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b/w 140 and 160 is the really cool metallic/minimal/detroit inspired Techno..the kind I bop around to a lot..the kinda stuff you get on Tresor and Nova Mute..dare I say it..Intelligent Techno? |
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I think some of you are missing the point. The genre is just so other people know vaguely what you are talking about. there are no definite boundries 'oh that tracks below 100bpm and has breaks must be trip hop' I personally regard shadow as instrumental hip hop, as I do Nightmares on wax (later stuff) and see trip hop as the more playful stuff generally like coldcut, but it really doesn't matter. and taxidermist...trip hop isn't boring, that's a stupid thing to say IMO |
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as far as I can remember, it was mixmag who coined the trip hop term for describing massive attack's music. in my opinion it's just another way of saying downtempo hip hop. |
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I was being ironic..but I also laid out some fact..I think the problem with trip hop is that it became too big too quick got massively overexposed got entagled into the merciless maw of the flavour of the week..got chewed up spat out and stripped of any credibility..all a bit sad...because stuff by the likes of Portishead and Tricky is still kinda tasty..Massive Attack and Mezzanine killed it for me..and the Mad Professor guy..he blows.. |
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yeah I was more talking to jimi steel. I think it just ended up being a dump for lots of music people couldn't fit into other things |
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right on, that list of definitions is silly because genres are very loose, overlapping, prone to change and a bit subjective. how is this contro-j character? i have 'mighty mouse calls a bluff' and it's a nice tune. |
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yep everything that was hip hop but was not about gangs and hos and had prominent fem vox (back then it was rarer)..with a laid back jazzy swing to it became trip hop..and I mean everything..it became the domain of the hacks.. |
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marlowe----YOU STOPID FUCKER :0) QUIT FINDING ALL MY OLD POSTED TOPICS (THANKS FOR THE LAUGHS :0)) ......YOUR THE BEST....WELL NEXT TO MY FAVORITE CUNT....RICHARD D. JAMES |
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*bips recycle on the nose* :D |
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what's a bip?..sounds vaguely sexual.. |
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I agree, trying to label music is difficult and the genre name doesnt mean anything. Its the artist and their track, if its sounds good who cares how you would classify it. Just like it. There are exeptions to everything. It depends, but i do think tempo has a lot to do with how you classify into a genre. Name a hip hop beat that isnt within 80-110 bpm ? Name a Jungle track thats slower than 100 bpm ? Some genres are defined by tempo and some arent. I still think the name trip hop is lame. |
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i like portishead and dj shadow. thas it |
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