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offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-19 09:42 [#00603961]
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anyone else listen to dancehall? easily the most exciting
and fun music to become popular in the U.S. in a long while.
tune in to a dancehall radio show if you get the chance, you
won't be sorry!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-03-19 09:47 [#00603968]
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what kind of dancehall? Like 1920s stuff or what?


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-19 09:49 [#00603978]
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it's like a cross between hip-hop and reggae.. basically
very sordid reggae singing over programmed beats (sometimes
they jack instrumentals from hip-hop songs). the most famous
dancehall artists right now are supercat (a veteran artist
you might remember for his guest spot in sugar ray's hit
"fly"; the neptunes are working with him right now for what
will be a huge american album for him), sean paul ("just
gimme the light", "make it clap" remix w/ busta), and beenie
man. the premise isn't TOO dissimilar from dub.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-03-19 09:50 [#00603980]
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ah - I had in mind people doing the charleston to some crazy
uptempo jazz! :D


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-03-19 09:51 [#00603983]
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a bit like early massive attack then?
or smight and mighty...


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-19 09:54 [#00603987]
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somewhat... but very thick jamaican accents singing in
english but you'd never be able to tell. the songs are
mostly about sex though (smart lyrics not being important to
the genre) and the programming is a lot faster than anything
on blue lines.


 

offline ScenarioDr on 2003-03-19 09:59 [#00604001]
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the bug, the new release on rephlex is in a ragga/dancehall
style!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-03-19 10:00 [#00604002]
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cool, i'll check that


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-21 20:17 [#00608709]
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good friday night music! ;) download these for a taste:
Sean Paul - Shake That Thang
Spragga Benz - Watch What You Say
Elephant Man - Jamaica


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-03-21 20:23 [#00608716]
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Dancehall is a massive influence to me. From the age of 13
or so I used to listen to pirate radio stations that played
dancehall. The 'Steppas' used to really rock it! there
was one time when warp almost signed Iration Steppas. dub
style dance hall electro, they should have...


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-03-21 20:23 [#00608717]
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did you say........SEXXXXXXX

maybe it misread that =0)~


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-21 20:26 [#00608720]
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sex sex sex baby ;) but why just talk about it...

*ahem*

yea jivver that would've been interesting... do you think it
was a mistake for warp to sort of pigeonhole themselves into
a limited range of music early on? the opposite of that is
so many people are giving warp shit now for getting into
hip-hop.

personally i'm still getting into dancehall... i've known
buju banton and beenie man since the mid to late 90s now but
it wasn't really until that sean paul song ("gimme the
light") hit big that i realized how cool this music is...


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-03-21 20:37 [#00608734]
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Dancehall has pioneered raw electronics, rap for nearly 30
years. I really think warp slipped up pigeoning themselves
into purely an AI/IDM/pseudo hip hop label.

Master of cermonies used to 'rap' over drum machines/breaks
in a really raw style, emotions that they felt now (then), a
lot of the 'backpacker' hip hop or whatever it's called now,
seems to be a bit too contrived to me.


 

offline nene from United States on 2003-03-21 20:40 [#00608738]
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you cant' not move your ass to ragga beats. and the vocals
can be insane. crazy atonal melodies sung super fast and
rhythmically.


 

offline nene from United States on 2003-03-21 20:42 [#00608740]
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I still need to buy some records though. all I've got is
some audiofuck sorta stuff like enduser, who's amazing by
the way.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-21 20:43 [#00608743]
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sure a lot of it's contrived... that goes with the territory
of these self-important genre styles (eg: "intelligent"
dance music... of course with that attitude some of it's
gonna be pretentious). on the other hand, some of the
leading "backpackers" actually reject the whole culture...
like Common when he raps about taking a skateboard out of a
backpacker's hands and slapping him around with it, or talib
kweli when he raps "it ain't commercial or underground, it's
true.." (true school; also see, j-live... now there is a
consummate and LIKEABLE conscious rapper), or mos def when
he says in articles he isn't some kind of activist, just a
lyricist. the whole backpacker thing is mostly the
underground media's fault...


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-21 20:46 [#00608747]
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yea i listened to some enduser a couple weeks ago... shit is
crazy!! as far as breakcore or whatever i think he's better
than vsnares, but vsnares has other qualities that i like.

dancehall is really appealing to me lately cos i'm starting
to get sick of the monotone that is inherent to rapping...
it's hard to get around really, no matter how much i like
the emcee it can sometimes be too much. dancehall is cool
cos their voices are so melodic and lively, not dead
sounding.


 

offline nene from United States on 2003-03-21 20:51 [#00608753]
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yeah I love it when people who aren't singers sing anyway
and it comes out so lovely and natural, like clouddead or
lots of ragga/dancehall. amateurish but weirdly beautiful
and childlike.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-21 20:59 [#00608765]
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word! i have to admit, i like 50 cent's singing cos it has
that amateur but earnest sound to it. same w/ pharoahe
monch... who rawkus need to stop fuckin' around with (he
turned an album in over a year ago).


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-03-21 21:05 [#00608777]
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Tit's I replied to your messages here a few times but I
didn't send them.......I'm trying to relax, have a few
glasses of wine etc. sorry you know how I am sometimes

50 cent rocks 'cos he feels it, not trying to mesmarize
people with hard to follow lyrics, just nice club fun hip
hop


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-21 21:09 [#00608784]
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it's funny to see who's into 50 cent.. i saw latoya jackson
on larry king live answer "50 cent" to larry's question who
her favorite singer is right now... and trent reznor (your
arch nemesis for some reason?!) is into him too.. i'm not
quite sure what it is about 50 that's so likeable but he's
definitely great


 


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