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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-19 07:23 [#00603645]
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I just picked this album after Nacmat constantly raving and lauding it..and it's kinda nice..a bit more grrr and rock has been added to his usual sound but the album flows pretty well..and most of the tracks are quite catchy head nodding material...
thanks Nacmat:)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-19 07:46 [#00603680]
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yeah, its a nice album (a bit to rckish for my taste), i like one track a lot, i like two medicore, rest of them i can listen to...
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-19 07:57 [#00603703]
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rawk indeed there's the entire chilli peppers playing here and there on there..but Tricky's gruff vox just gives the sound of these musos the balls Chilli Peppers stuff lacks..good indeed..
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optimus prime
on 2003-03-19 07:59 [#00603712]
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good camping music.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-19 08:04 [#00603727]
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i heard his new album is available on soulseek, but im not using it so i cant tell for certain-im getting it as soon as it comes out tho!
i trust Ttricky :)
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-19 08:06 [#00603731]
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I lost my faith in Tricky for some strange reason for a while..I didnt really dig Juxtapose I suppose..but now i am back in the fold:)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-19 08:07 [#00603735]
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hmm, i like that first juxtapose song a lot! the rest is pretty lame, but that first song alone is well worth having the album
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-19 08:13 [#00603743]
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the song.. For Real?..I have grown used to it..but when I first heard it the Sitar sound made me go ugh...but now yeah it's very nice...The last song is good too..Scrappy Love..the middle..was yaaawn
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-19 08:17 [#00603749]
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hehe, yeah for real is the one-i loved it since the first time i heard it-i saw vid, before the album was released and the days left to the release were just too much so i kept singing it myself :)
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-03-19 08:18 [#00603750]
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you cant be serious.. tricky COMPLETELY fell off
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-03-19 08:19 [#00603751]
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"pre- millenium tension" is my favorite tricky album, its brill
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-19 08:19 [#00603753]
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yeah it's got an evil hook..it's going round and round in my head as we speak..:p
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-19 08:19 [#00603754]
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angels with dirty faces is my fav, followed with maxinquaye
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-19 08:20 [#00603756]
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mine too..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-19 08:20 [#00603757]
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yeah very catchy
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-19 08:21 [#00603760]
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angels is a close second....maxinquaye dont know..is just too much of a good think if you know what I mean..got sick of it..but it's an excellent album nonetheless...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-19 08:22 [#00603762]
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too sweet? hehe
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-19 08:24 [#00603764]
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yes and no...It's got some pretty ruff and tuff songs too..black steel for one..but yeah..it's too catchy you tend to play it a lot and then get sick of it..for long stretches of time...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-19 08:30 [#00603775]
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its been a while since i listened to tricky, i'll give a listen to maxinquaye when i get home
but overal, i kind of dont like trickys albums as a wholes-there's plenty of briliant songs on each album but in most cases i dont like the whole album-except for the angels with dirty faces
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nacmat
on 2003-03-19 08:44 [#00603798]
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I am so glad flea.... this is a very special album... why?
well tricky´s best albums so far where the great maxinquaye and premillenium tension, angels with dirty faces was good too, but these were dark and heavy ambience... kind of dificult to breath with.
blowback is sunny, catchy, sexy but still trickyish its more comercial, yes, but for tricky the fact of being comercial is really a revolution.
you can see the heaviness but now you dont want to die, now you wanna fuck
blowback is a very good album, but also very lonely, it is not the result of a process, it is an island in tricky´s mind and in music panorama
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nacmat
on 2003-03-19 08:46 [#00603806]
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it is like war is over!! and you walk through destroyed buildings but happy
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-19 08:48 [#00603811]
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well put
it's not the most adventurous (PMT has that honour)
but yeah it's very catchy and sexy
have to listen to it again to zone in on the strengths weaknesses etc:)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-19 08:53 [#00603825]
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maybe there are a few weak tracks, but the good ones are really enjoyable
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-19 09:03 [#00603849]
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sorry guys but this album is terrible. i'm glad you're able to enjoy it but frankly i'm surprised. i "like" almost every album i hear cos i always look for the positives, but in this case there are next to none. i like "evolution revolution love" cos i used to be a Live fan but that's about it. i guess he's not the same without drugs (he gave up drugs and went vegan for this album and presumably after) but i agree with theo, the trickster has completely fallen off.
the first solo album is a masterpiece, the second was pretty good, everything after has ranged from ok to bland. on juxtapose there is one really dope song called "contradictive" and on angels... there are about 3 or 4 really awesome songs.
also check out his "trickster european remix" he did for Notorious B.I.G.'s "hypnotize" right before biggie died. the night tricky found out he was shot he wrote "broken homes" (which p.j. harvey sings) about him.
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nacmat
on 2003-03-19 09:06 [#00603859]
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well tits, I respect your view a lot, a sI consider you a very knower of music, but there is something I cant go against, and its the fact that I enjoy that album, maybe its my fault, but who cares... maybe some day I find out what you already know
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-19 09:06 [#00603861]
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i dont think this change had anything to do with drugs... i dont think he was addicted or anything appernatly (so he sad) he had this health problems and was fucked up for many years...
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-19 09:10 [#00603866]
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I agree with Nacmat.. It's a very entertaining album...but like I said it's only on first listen..but for me generally Tricky's albums get better with each listen so..that's a good thing..
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-19 09:12 [#00603875]
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no, enjoy it.. i don't mean to take enjoyment away from anyone. i just wanted to say that me and a lot of tricky's fans were disappointed with this album (his first totally unredeeming album really) but if you enjoy it then that should be all that matters.
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nacmat
on 2003-03-19 09:14 [#00603882]
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imo yuxtapose is the really weak one... blowback was kind of a comig back
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-19 09:15 [#00603883]
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I was so disappointed with Juxtapose that I stopped buying Tricky...that's why I didnt buy Blowback till now..but upon hearing it I was pleasently surprised..a far superior album to Juxtapose..
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-19 09:15 [#00603884]
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anyone knows something about the new album?
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nacmat
on 2003-03-19 09:17 [#00603887]
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didnt even know about a new one
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-19 09:18 [#00603890]
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i heard something about some new tricky release being available at soulseek (im not sure if its the whole album-i'll check when i get home)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-19 10:02 [#00604005]
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the cove is so...mmmm... sexual
I want that smoke
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-19 11:00 [#00604092]
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the only new one isnt new really -its a "best of" thing - maybe he's chnaged record labels - i cant be arsed to go look thru my cd's
its called Tricky / A Ruff Guide tracks are:
Aftermath
Poems
For Real
Black Steel
Pumpkin
Broken Homes
Wash My Soul
I Be The Prophet
Makes Me Wanna Die
Tricky Kid
Scrappy Love
Ponderosa
Christiansands
Hell Is Around The Corner
Singing The Blues
Bubbles
Overcome
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MrGerbik
from United States on 2003-03-19 13:40 [#00604492]
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Maxinquaye and PMT as soooo fucking incredible, it saddens me to hear recent Tricky :( BTW, does anyone have the Product of the Environment cd he produced? English gangters telling tales with music underneath...
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MrGerbik
from United States on 2003-03-19 13:41 [#00604494]
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For the record, I still think recent Tricky is better than 98% of the albums out there.
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tango
from Doncaster (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-19 13:45 [#00604502]
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yeah i have that one -with joey pyle,et all and the source of my avatar pic - dave courtney
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-19 16:08 [#00604704]
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here's some info i found (i hope its real) With a track record of collaborations ranging from Alison Moyet to the Red Hot Chili Peppers to RZA, Tricky always has the ability to pull something unexpected of out the hat.
‘Vulnerable’, his second LP for Anti Records has a provisional release date of May 19th, and was recorded in Autumn 2002 in LA with his touring band.
Sounding a lot less muddled and unfocused than ‘Blowback’, this is about as near to the format of ‘Maxinquaye’ as fans are likely to get with someone as contrary as Tricky. The signature sound of Tricky echoing sweet female vocals is all over the LP. Though unconfirmed at this point, his vocal sparring partner is an Italian vocalist Constanza Francavilla.
The music, instead of the demo feel of the muddy loops and dark atmospheres, is a much clearer and diverse production . ‘Dear god’ features acoustic instruments and live beats, whilst at the other end of the scale ‘How High’ slams with heavy rock guitars. First single is expected to be ‘Anti-Matter’
Tracklisting… Stay Anti-Matter Ice Pick Car Crash Dear god How High What is Wrong Hollow Moody Wait For God Where I'm From The Lovecats Search and Survive
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-20 05:09 [#00605478]
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still loving the Blowback..
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nacmat
on 2003-03-20 05:17 [#00605494]
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which are your favourte tracks?
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-20 05:25 [#00605506]
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so far Five Days with Cyndi Lauper and A Song For Yukiko..are these hidden gems..as well as YOUR NAME..they could just about be on a WARP album..I mean the other tracks are obviously big and catchy and fun out of those
BURY THE EVIDENCE has some of the most chilling lyrics and vocals I have ever heard on Tricky
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nacmat
on 2003-03-20 05:30 [#00605515]
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indeed those are great hidden gems... I enjoy the mainstream ones too:
you dont wanna #1 da woman diss never (dig up we history)
what do you think of the nirvana´s cover?
does your cd have the 2 extra tracks?
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-20 05:38 [#00605522]
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Something in the Way?..yeah cool little track..once again the backing track is very IDMish..and that's a great vocal by ragga Man Hawkman
no mine only has 13 tracks:(
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nacmat
on 2003-03-20 05:41 [#00605524]
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hehehe
15 tracks here
(the extra are nothing special really, dont worry)
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-20 05:47 [#00605535]
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and you are right about the cover...very hot..the whole sequence inside?..is it off a video??
plus if Tricky is now clean..why are they doing Shotguns?..I guess weed doesnt count.
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nacmat
on 2003-03-20 05:49 [#00605538]
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of course weed doesnt count!
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-20 05:50 [#00605542]
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hehe
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-03-20 13:36 [#00606308]
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i think he gave up weed except for the album cover (which may be photoshopped)
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mojogigolo
from Vic (Australia) on 2003-03-21 21:23 [#00608812]
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i was loving tricky until juxtapose came out, and that one sucked huge, sweaty balls, as did blowback. In my mind nothing compares to the early material.
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