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no one has read anthem, then? :( |
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1984 has one of the saddest endings to a book ever. I'm trying to think of some other books with a super sad ending. Coming up blank, though Cormac McCarthy's books usually end on a dreary note. And that dog dies in old yeller doesn't he? |
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anthem by ayn rand? yes i have. |
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nice short read--ayn rand rocks |
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yeah, one of the things i like about it is how short it is, but still so good. did you read atlas shrugged? |
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no...only ayn rand i havent got around to reading. I quit after the fountainhead. is it any good? |
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yeah, it's pretty good, though it's extremely heavy on her objectivism, so if you're not into it, it's kind of grating. i didn't read the fountainhead. it's good, right? |
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if you like architecture...but its too heavy on the bullshit...if you know what i mean |
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i can honestly say: no, i don't know what you mean. what do you mean? |
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i don't know, check it out maybe you will like it. whats the last good book you have read? |
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it just seemed elitist or exclusive, even though im an obsessive architecture fan |
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hmm, the last good book i read. well, right now i'm reading the idiot by dostoevsky, which i like, but is somewhat hard to follow. prior to that it was probably slaughterhouse 5. |
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holy shit...thats the last book i am reading too. and it is very hard to follow, in fact i am only on page 49, its so hard to concentrate on it. |
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but i did finish crime and punishment after some time |
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the last notable book i read was heart of darkness |
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read brave new world also! an amazing book |
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hehe that's crazy! yeah, this is the second time i'm trying to read it. i really enjoy it, i just can't always tell what the hell's going on. i haven't read crime and punishment. who is heart of darkness by? |
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yeah, that was good, too. |
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joseph conrad |
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I actually preferred it, don't think its been made into a film the technologies around now too! |
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it was a made for tv film a while back |
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i'd really love to see it i've never read the follow book either |
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yes, it was made into a tv movie on the sci-fi channel. it was horrendous. seriously, i had to turn it off. |
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it was good, i was a sophomore in high school and stoned, hadnt read the book yet, so quite a story im not an english major--ask dariusgriffin for a "proffessional" opinion |
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hehe, well conflicting opinions on things make it more interesting.. |
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well you should take dozier's advice over mine, its been years since ive seen that |
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maybe we're talking about different ones, because i don't think the one i saw is as old as the one you're talking about. unless you were a sophmore in highschool a couple of years ago. i'll have to check into that. |
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is the one i saw. made in 1998. leonard nimoy is in it. according to imdb, there was another made for tv adaptation made in 1980. |
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i have anthem, fountainhead and atlas shrugged which I will get to but her whole notion of capitalism being the best and whatnot makes me not want to read her books as much. |
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It's not the best wrritten book everr. Flawed classic. |
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My favorite book of all time. Everything is in there. |
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i still haven't read animal farm. For some reason i can't find it in my library. |
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i know what you mean. she's a bit extremist and elitist, i think. |
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finished it last week. curiously though, the night i got it, i got the shits and the flu for a week after. i think its cursed. though the "you are the dead" bit frightened the shit right outta me. was crazy. |
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one of my all-time favorites as well, big brother reminds me of the direction our current government is going with the cowboy-in-chief's deparment of homeland security and whatnot... fuckers are always watching |
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Definately a classic. Anyone like Huxley? |
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The book is great but I found it very depressing. If anyone wants to hear a song that sampled heavily the film version of 1984, check out "Carry" by Skinny Puppy. |
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I wrote a mini essay about the similarities between Nine Inch Nails' Broken EP and 1984. There are so many correlations, it seems like Trent was thinking of the book as he wrote the music. Pinion -> Winston Wish -> Winston starts by wishing he could make a change, be "something real" Last -> Winston meets Julia and even though he knows "this isn't meant to last, this is for right now," he strives to have some kind of relationship with her. Help Me I Am In Hell -> Winston gets captured. Happiness In Slavery -> Winston learns to love Big Bother. Gave Up -> Winston stops trying to change the system and accepts the way the world is. ---- perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most forgot how it feels well almost no one to blame always the same open my eyes wake up in flames it took you to make me realize it took you to make me realize it took you to make me realize it took you to make me see the light smashed up my sanity smashed up my integrity smashed up what i believed in smashed up what's left of me smashed up my everything smashed up all that was true gonna smash myself to pieces i don't know what else to do covered in hope and vaseline still cannot fix this broken machine watching the hole it used to be mine just watching it burn in my steady systematic decline of the trust i will betray give it to me i throw it away after everything i've done i hate myself for what i've become i tried i gave up throw it away |
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Wow, as I reread the lyrics, more stuff jumped out at me covered in hope and vaseline still cannot fix this broken machine watching the hole it used to be mine It's when Winston's banging Julia (the vaseline reference) that he feels most hopeful, but despite all their fucking, the Big Brother machine cannot be stopped. And "watching the hole that used to be mine" could be a somewhat crude reference to Julia. |
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1984: i loved it when i was about 14 years old. tried to read it again a few months ago... total bullshit. especially regarding the fact that orwell´s anti-utopia is proved wrong - huxley described what´s going on today instead. |
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