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offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-03-01 09:56 [#00575556]
Points: 3489 Status: Lurker



i think there are a lot of important questions here and i'm
curious what the pro-us-iraq-war individuals have to say in
response to any of these questions.

Is It Not True?
Questions On Iraq From A GOP Congressman
Ron Paul is an M.D. and a Republican Member of Congress from
Texas

Editor's Note: Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul read the
following to the House of Representatives, September 10,
2002.

Soon we hope to have hearings on the pending war with Iraq.
Here are some questions I would like answered by those who
are urging us to start this war:

1. Is it not true that the reason we did not bomb the Soviet
Union at the height of the Cold War was because we knew they
could retaliate?

2. Is it not also true that we are willing to bomb Iraq now
because we know it cannot retaliate -- which just confirms
that there is no real threat?

3. Is it not true that there are those who argue that even
with inspections we cannot be sure that Hussein might be
hiding weapons, and at the same time imply that we can be
more sure that weapons exist in the absence of inspections?


4. Is it not true that the U.N.'s International Atomic
Energy Agency was able to complete its yearly verification
mission to Iraq just this year with Iraqi cooperation?

5. Is it not true that the intelligence community has been
unable to develop a case tying Iraq to global terrorism at
all, much less the attacks on the United States last year?
Does anyone remember that 15 of the 19 hijackers came from
Saudi Arabia and that none came from Iraq?

6. Was former CIA counter-terrorism chief Vincent
Cannistraro wrong when he recently said there is no
confirmed evidence of Iraq's links to terrorism?

7. Is it not true that the CIA has concluded there is no
evidence that a Prague meeting between 9/11 hijacker Atta
and Iraqi intelligence took place?

8. Is it not true that northern Iraq, where the
administration claimed Al Qaeda were hiding out, is in the
control of our "allies," the Kurds?

9. Is it not true that the v


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-03-01 09:56 [#00575558]
Points: 3489 Status: Lurker



vast majority of Al Qaeda leaders who escaped appear to have
safely made their way to Pakistan, another of our so-called
allies?

10. Has anyone noticed that Afghanistan is rapidly sinking
into total chaos, with bombings and assassinations becoming
daily occurrences; and that according to a recent U.N.
report the Al Qaeda "is, by all accounts, alive and well and
poised to strike again, how, when, and where it chooses?"

11. Why are we taking precious military and intelligence
resources away from tracking down those who did attack the
United States -- and who may again attack the United States
-- and using them to invade countries that have not attacked
the United States?

12. Would an attack on Iraq not just confirm the Arab
world's worst suspicions about the United States? And isn't
this what bin Laden wanted?

13. How can Hussein be compared to Hitler when he has no
navy or air force, and now has an army one-fifth the size of
12 years ago, which even then proved totally inept at
defending the country?

14. Is it not true that the constitutional power to declare
war is exclusively that of the Congress? Should presidents,
contrary to the Constitution, allow Congress to concur only
when pressured by public opinion? Are presidents permitted
to rely on the United Nations for permission to go to war?

15. Are you aware of a Pentagon report studying charges that
thousands of Kurds in one village were gassed by the Iraqis,
which found no conclusive evidence that Iraq was
responsible, that Iran occupied the very city involved, and
that evidence indicated the type of gas used was more likely
controlled by Iran not Iraq?

16. Is it not true that anywhere between 100,000 and 300,000
U.S. soldiers have suffered from Persian Gulf War syndrome
from the first Gulf War, and that thousands may have died?

17. Are we prepared for possibly thousands of American
casualties in a war against a country that does not have the
capacity to attack the United States?

18. Are we willing to bear the economic b


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-03-01 09:57 [#00575559]
Points: 3489 Status: Lurker



burden of a 100 billion dollar war against Iraq, with oil
prices expected to skyrocket and further rattle an already
shaky American economy? How about an estimated 30 years
occupation of Iraq that some have deemed necessary to "build
democracy" there?

19. Iraq's alleged violations of U.N. resolutions are given
as reason to initiate an attack, yet is it not true that
hundreds of U.N. resolutions have been ignored by various
countries without penalty?

20. Did former President Bush not cite the U.N. resolution
of 1990 as the reason he could not march into Baghdad, while
supporters of a new attack assert that it is the very reason
we can march into Baghdad?

21. Is it not true that, contrary to current claims, the
no-fly zones were set up by Britain and the United States
without specific approval from the United Nations?

22. If we claim membership in the international community
and conform to its rules only when it pleases us, does this
not serve to undermine our position, directing animosity
toward us by both friend and foe?

23. How can our declared goal of bringing democracy to Iraq
be believable when we prop up dictators throughout the
Middle East and support military tyrants like Musharaf in
Pakistan, who overthrew a democratically elected president?


24. Are you familiar with the 1994 Senate Hearings that
revealed the United States. knowingly supplied chemical and
biological materials to Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war and as
late as 1992 -- including after the alleged Iraqi gas attack
on a Kurdish village?

25. Did we not assist Saddam Hussein's rise to power by
supporting and encouraging his invasion of Iran? Is it
honest to criticize Saddam now for his invasion of Iran,
which at the time we actively supported?

26. Is it not true that preventive war is synonymous with an
act of aggression, and has never been considered a moral or
legitimate U.S. policy?

27. Why do the oil company executives strongly support this
war if oil is not the real reason we plan to take over Iraq?




 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-03-01 09:57 [#00575560]
Points: 3489 Status: Lurker



28. Why is it that those who never wore a uniform and are
confident that they won't have to personally fight this war
are more anxious for this war than our generals?

29. What is the moral argument for attacking a nation that
has not initiated aggression against us, and could not if it
wanted?

30. Where does the Constitution grant us permission to wage
war for any reason other than self-defense?

31. Is it not true that a war against Iraq rejects the
sentiments of the time-honored Treaty of Westphalia, nearly
400 years ago, that countries should never go into another
for the purpose of regime change?

32. Is it not true that the more civilized a society is, the
less likely disagreements will be settled by war?

33. Is it not true that since World War II, Congress has not
declared war and -- not coincidentally -- we have not since
then had a clear-cut victory?

34. Is it not true that Pakistan, especially through its
intelligence services, was an active supporter and key
organizer of the Taliban?

35. Why don't those who want war bring a formal declaration
of war resolution to the floor of Congress?



 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-01 10:00 [#00575562]
Points: 4736 Status: Lurker



points 1, 2 sound familiar: an american who lives in my
student house (call it a dorm if you will) says the us
should attack iraq and not n-korea (which is a far bigger
threat, if iraq is a threat at all). i couldn't believe it
when he said that...


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-01 10:04 [#00575567]
Points: 4736 Status: Lurker



unbelievable! coming from a republican! nice


 

offline kluizenaar from Netherlands Antilles on 2003-03-01 10:04 [#00575568]
Points: 506 Status: Regular



I hope Bush gets shot dead ,.while appearing live having
some speach about "terr" (*read: texas slang for terror)


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-03-01 10:06 [#00575572]
Points: 3489 Status: Lurker



yup. it would be much harder for me to be anti-war if there
weren't so many unaswered questions. you would think there
would be some serious answerinf coming form the white house
saying "to all the concerns, these are our justifications
and we must go to war because..." but instead they just
don't address them! bush spits out the same rerun phrases
over and over and over it makes me sick. he diverts every
question raised to "iraq will no disarm" and never answers
anything.


 


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