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do you enjoy the music itself or the tech & effects used |
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every part of it makes me happy :D i love it all |
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it's good music and i think it will still be entertaining five or ten years from now even when the techniques sound dated. at least some of the stuff... like "we are oceans" outstanding track |
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my fav is we are oceans i love the few piano notes after the lady sais WE ARE OCEANS. *ding ding . ding ding ding* Oh yeah, you know what I'm talking about. The voice, while simple and easily irritating, sounds like it's coming from a mermaid who lives 10,000 feet under the surface. |
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lots of energy, and makes ur mind wonder when u cant keep up with it :-) track 2 on doll doll doll, (cant remember the title) is great when the girl's voice changes into a trumpet :-) |
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i don't. |
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1. Because he kicks Squarepusher's ass. 2. Tracks like Good Jungle, Crackest and of course One Eye - just have so much aggression - but then he can switch it up and do things like Winter In the Belly of a Snake - he's a rare breed. Top 5 producers right now. |
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"Because he kicks Squarepusher's ass." :| |
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Sorry I couldn't resist - but it is truly how I feel - Squarepusher sounds so flat and wanky when played directly before or after the VS. |
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I disagree with you..re:Squarepusher VSnares's jungle'n'drill stuff sounds forced to me..created for the sole purpose of out drilling the previous masters of drill (SP, AFX etc)..comes out in your words..wanky but I like VS's glitchy stuff..because a lot of thought and effort has gone into it keeping it veering on the edge between total unpredictability and balls out experimentation and accessibility |
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the song itself. fuck effects, if it don't sound good i don't see the point. i don't dislike effects, just i don't like them alone, they need to add to the song. |
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what is a good starting album to get into his stuff? ive heard defluxion and wasnt overly impressed.. |
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i agree-sometimes it feels like he's simply showing off how well he can programme his wacky effects, rather than make a piece of music. |
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This stuff will be seriously dated soon (IMHO)...I used to be woooed of my feat by all this drill n' bass, but now it bores me (even though I realise it's pretty hard to pull off) |
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yeah, a SP album :) |
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squarepusher? ive given up on him. i just bought Go Plastic today...what a piece of shite. so samey, its like he used the exact same instruments on every track....it goes in my 'backgound music' collection. |
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hardly backround music! but I agree-while I used to love this album, it now seems highly repetitive (soundwise) |
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there's nothing more relaxing after school than listening to his stuff. satanstornade gets boring after a while, but his stuff is always good |
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Songs like 'poor kakarookee' and 'dollmaker' are kickass. I also like the soundscapes he does. Bannana Seat Girl is a badass jazz tune, while British IDM Present Fanfare (The Hawaiian Hockey Song) starts chill until the drums kick in. And just when you think VS is the most hardcore songwriter, he stumps you with a track like "dismantling five years". Vsnares is painter and his pictures are wicked. |
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actually I'd say vsnares relies more on actual musical structure as opposed to just wacky textures and effects than a lot of people. |
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ugghhh... here might be the perfect place to advertise my selling of a copy of WITBOAS that has been listened to once, whose booklet and case are both in perfect, practically untouched condition. $10 |
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i prefer squarepusher for drill VS is just gets harsh for the sake of being harsh you dont get "songs" or "pieces of music" as other artists |
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electro - i couldnt possibly disagree more than i do with that statement you just made. |
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lemme guess, it was the vocals that prolly ruined it for you. I dont care for them at all, should have stayed instrumental the whole album. |
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im not a fan, i too think he's pointlessly abrasive, ill take SP any day. |
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:) |
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no it's not just the vocals.. though they were atrocious .. (on "dad" .. what is he singing to!? rhythmically I mean.. like what are acting as his queues on that track?) I kinda thought the "tatoo" vocals were kinda cool.. and I was turned of by his covering of a fucking danzig song.. though that is one of the better songs I've managed to listen to.. ..the problem I have with it is its sparsity.. most of the album is just very empty...like there's a (shitty) distant melody of sorts.. then there's like an off-beat pitter-patter of various makeshift snares and bass kicks... and I think the thing that motivates this guy as an artist is the limitless possibilities that are open to him via this technology.. liek there could be a sound here, here, here , here... here and other places that otherwise wouldn't be possible.. but that doens't mean it sounds good and absolutely nothing grabbed me . it's boring. it has low melodic value.. and his rhythms just are inconsistant and many times non-existant.. (I am basing this all on WITBOAS.. I have no idea what else this guy is capable of, and I will give him credit for the nymphomatriarch idea) to me there's nothing cool about it, there's nothign new about it.. and there's nothing interesting about it.. and he just seems like a talentless non-artist that got away w/ a record deal and a following because a lot of people just didn't know any better |
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it was mike paradinas who traced him down after he heard a track by him in a store (i read on the mu-board) vs is not for everybody and it doesnt at all mean your closeminded if you don't like him. to me he's on the very top now, especially with witboas which i consider to be the most interesting release in a very long time. the singing in 'she' is kinda dull but i dig that crazy movie quotes and i also can't agree what you said about melodies in his work. now that is what i think |
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you think Winter.. is the most interesting release... by him? in a long time ? or just the most interesting release in a long time in general.. |
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i general i meant and i'm listening to it right now ;) |
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i'm playing WITBOAS now too nr2 stairs song is playing, i like that CD :) :D |
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hmm.. I don't get it. I guess it's just not me |
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in quod now! and after 'she' it wont be long till cashew & fraujager!! |
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yeah good stuff indeed :) and sink snow angel also rocks imo it's my only VS cd, in fact.. i think i'll go to the shop to listen some other VS i hope they'll have find candace or that higgins glue thing :) ooh boy :D |
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there is a lot of music which does nothing for me, including some boc aphex and squarepusher. well, as long as there are the artists i like that's no problem. usually the dislikings also are far more constant than what you like |
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venetian snares is way better than squarepusher to me, I only like go plastic which I think is fantastic but his earlier stuff is so ehhhh. |
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I've heard Gottrahmen (sp?) on titworth's radio show and I thought it was great. Heard some tracks off of Higgins (the only album of his I have considered buying) and thought they were alright, definately have to be in the mood for it though. |
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wanna trade for it? i have a fair few cd's dj food railway raver luke vibert/bj cole finitribe like a tim fsol joseph nothing speedy j req:one |
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Songs about my cats and Higgins are his best releases. |
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man you know what I REALLY REALLY want?! a cd full of just straightforward jungle club bangers like snares man was! the squeak squeak cats and cheesy synth lines that's all great, but i fucking love the stuff like good jungle, snares man! is this some overdone style? because i need more and more stuff that sounds like just his straight jungle hits! even stuff like remarc you know i've heard, but he makes it sound tame |
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rudebwoy vocalists, lots of that |
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does not compute; does not compute. |
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I didn't like Snares much up until I saw his live video. I'd heard a few songs off various albums but I wasn't into them, preferring as a lot of you have said, Squarepusher. Then I heard 'Find Candace' and that seemed to be the one for me that made it click, now I can go back to his other stuff and enjoy it. Haven't any of you ever had that with an artist? You just need one track to "get" it and then you listen to the stuff you didn't like before with renewed interest? Because it's happened to me dozens of times. Keep trying. |
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To answer the initial question, I like Snares cause he makes my brain jiggle |
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I'm not abig fan- I like "Faust" and a couple of tracks from Dolls dolls dolls, but as flea says, it does sound a little forced. It is technically very good, but not the sort of stuff I'd choose to listen to on a regular basis. Following what Jar said, I may give find Candace a go... |
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I find VS to be very loopy music. Like he takes a beat and loops it over and over, making minor changes each time. This doesnt apply to all his songs tho. SOme of it is also almost too hardcore for my liking. Personally I think SP is better at the Drill stuff, but you cant really compare the two as they have very different styles. |
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why one or the other? |
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because he names shit after albumns like this http://www.city.winnipeg.mb.ca/police/Unsolved%20Cases/case 28.htm |
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I enjoy all of Snares' work. both for the mad skillz he has, and for the big phat beats he pumps out. he's a nice guy too. |
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squarepusher is loads better than vsnares, really if you check the track "dismantling 5 years" on higgins ultrafunkzksldskjsd you'll notice that for the first few minutes its essentially nanou2 done on a synth instead of a piano |
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