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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 09:34 [#00573118]
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Stumbled across this earlier... thought some of you may be interested. :)
Amazon.co.uk Review
If you thought Autechre were forever lost in the chattering electronic static and tempo-less industrial fog that characterised their oppressively difficult last album, Draft 7.30 should come as a very welcome return to formality. Stripping much of the machinery away, Autechre have left hallucinogenic keyboard washes, pumping sub-bass and intensely complex drum patterns, all of which mutate and interact according to some alien logic. Fans suggest that previous album Confield was best listened to quietly in the dead of night; well, Draft 7.30 is best listened to very loud, through massive speakers. It's the perfect way to appreciate the meaty low-end that palpitates through tracks like "Surripere", the child-like chimes that creep through the background on "Theme Of Sudden Roundabout" or the gut-pounding rhythm of "Xylin Room" that suddenly halts for a split-second leaving one sprawling forward on the track's sheer momentum. Hardcore fans might dismiss this as a step back from the brink, a mere retread of ground that's being stamped flat by Autechre's army of copyists. But ultimately, Draft 7.30 is a blast to listen to--a genuine rarity in leftfield electronica nowadays. --Louis Pattison
source: AMAZON.CO.UK
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-27 09:37 [#00573124]
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ok, louis obviously doesnt know what he's talking about...
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-27 09:40 [#00573127]
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I couldnt say... i aint heard Draft yet. I hate reviewers mind you. ;)
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-27 09:53 [#00573152]
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Maybe us - the knowledgable XLtronic members should write our own review.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-02-27 10:07 [#00573174]
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this is the most stupid review i've ever heard. this sucker doesn't know what he's talking about
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-02-27 10:15 [#00573191]
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haven't heard the album, so what would a more proper review be then?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-27 10:19 [#00573200]
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here i got one
For all you impatient bastards who used the likes of slsk and various other means you have probably have heard draft 7.30. If you haven't you can probably think of three people that have. Out of those three people at least one has made the compairison to confield. And the other one was quick with a "How the fuck can you make that compairiaon" reply.
The truth is while there are similairities between the two albums i think the word "similar" is as far as you can take the compairison. Draft 7.30 is more approachable than previous albums and tends to not be so "difficult" in compairison to other albums. Not that this is a groundbreakingly different approach. It's still the same old autechre that you've learned to grow and love. The more albums they make the better they get. You might as well add it to your collection. I will!
-virgin-
or something like that.... i am getting distracted by higgins ultra low track glue funk hits 1972-2006.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-02-27 14:27 [#00573501]
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well hes right about the tracks
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-02-27 14:42 [#00573515]
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virginpusher, that's exactly what the reviewer said with far more words...
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-02-27 15:33 [#00573573]
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It's f-ing amazing.
How about that.
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uviol
from United States on 2003-02-27 15:39 [#00573578]
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Haven't heard the new album yet - - Was the guy innaccurate in his description of it or in his analysis? If it's the latter then it seems kinda subjective. I am not saying I like these optimistic, anti-fanbase reviewers who act like they are more in touch becuase they are not 'elitist', I am just curious whether you folks think his description was accurate.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-02-27 16:05 [#00573600]
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"intensely complex drum patterns"
wow i want to hit that guy in the face
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Zombiekev
from Ardmore (United States) on 2003-02-27 16:31 [#00573630]
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i'm just gonna hear it for myself when its released
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-02-27 16:58 [#00573657]
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I have arranged for Louis Pattison to be killed.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-02-27 18:32 [#00573758]
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i will pay for any grants necessary
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-02-27 18:39 [#00573765]
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that review made me not want to buy Draft...ever...atleast not from AMAZON..
those who have heard it..does it really suck that much?..have they really stripped the layers of machines.(please say no, please say no)
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-02-27 20:17 [#00573871]
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Buy from barnesandnoble.com
They have a BIGGER selection for Cheaper!
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-27 20:25 [#00573883]
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look
its basically just... autechre
Its good, but its not new
When i finished listening to it, i said "yep, thats ae"
But I never said "holy mother crapshit AE ARE GENIUSES!"
Its just more of what they have done...
kind of like confeild part 2.
but yeah, its enjoyable. Music isnt always about innovation and doing new things. I appriciate draft because it is good. Not because its new.
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theo himself
from +- on 2003-02-27 20:28 [#00573887]
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Zeus.
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Atop
from Texas (United States) on 2003-02-27 20:33 [#00573890]
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it is new, nothing ever has been created that is like Draft 7.30, only by Ae has anything been made that comes near sounding like Draft,
open your ears fuckos!
tis the new musik!
Atop
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KiloWatts
from Richardson (United States) on 2003-02-27 20:42 [#00573895]
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I don't understand why so many people in here don't like the review. I think it's a great review.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-27 20:44 [#00573898]
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*yawn*
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Atop
from Texas (United States) on 2003-02-28 10:02 [#00574468]
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yes you are bored aren't you Matthew?
ennui will be the death of all who don't find themselves................
Akkad
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Key
from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-28 10:11 [#00574477]
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"Draft 7.30 is a blast to listen to"
i agree
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Riccardo
from somewhere beyond the ultraworl on 2003-02-28 10:47 [#00574521]
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i have listened only four songs so it isn't enough to make a judge...so far i like it,but it's abit close to what ae have done in the past,i mean while the prevoius albums were a constant evolution of their sound here this evolution lacks a little,even if the have introduced some kind of noises while confield had fat -beats,anyway it's different from confield so far,closer to ep7or lp5 for me(reniform puls is an example)well this is my impression
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-28 10:49 [#00574523]
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"Draft 7.30 is best listened to very loud, through massive speakers."
couldn't agree more. well, maybe a bit
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accela
from Detroit (United States) on 2003-02-28 11:58 [#00574610]
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draft 7.30 is a masterpiece
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-04-23 15:26 [#00665262]
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oh, here's my comment on the so called similarities between confield and draft 7.30... I just bought draft 7.30 today, and confield on saturday, and well they sound totally different to me... I mean, Draft does sound like Autechre, but it definitely isn't Confield 2... I'll be honest, my first feeling, and mind you this could change, but my first feeling about draft was that it's much more "outthere" then confield... I didn';t really think confield was too strange, or weird, or "outthere" when I played it for the first time...
P.S., Tapr is the strangest and weirdest song I've ever heard methinks... just nuts!!
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nacmat
on 2003-04-23 15:42 [#00665283]
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I am loving it
nothing to do with confield which was more abstract
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-04-23 15:46 [#00665289]
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My dads thoughts on P.:NTIL:
(shouting over it) 'Fuckin' 'ell!'
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-04-23 15:46 [#00665291]
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one thing is for sure, they're doing crazy things with beats and rhythms on this album... a straight 4/4 rhythm can be totally fucking crazy, and on this album they have some crazy ones... it's nice and funky!
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nacmat
on 2003-04-23 15:48 [#00665295]
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this one has a lot more of rithym in my opinion
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uviol
from United States on 2003-04-23 15:53 [#00665310]
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Love it ! It doesn't sound much like Confield at all to me .. other than pieces. The first couple tracks remind me of more fleshed out versions of VI Scose Poise, or something, gah I can't ever remember the name!. Theme of Sudden Roundabout sounds a bit like uviol to me .. I can't say it's better than Confield, but it's quite nearly equal methinks.
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-23 15:55 [#00665313]
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Is there actually any one who can say one Ae album sounds like any other?
And I mean albums, I do not count ep's.
For me, they all sound different, and that's one of the things I just love about Ae. All different, but all brilliant!
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nacmat
on 2003-04-23 15:57 [#00665314]
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"It doesn't sound much like Confield at all to me pieces..................................................... ........................................................... .. other than ...........................................................I can't say
it's better than Confield, but it's quite nearly equal methinks." _________________________________
so what do you think then? is it similar or not?
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nacmat
on 2003-04-23 15:59 [#00665319]
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what the fuck of copy and paste did I do??
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uviol
from United States on 2003-04-23 16:04 [#00665329]
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Hehe. Well, similar if you're talking about music in general.. even electronic music in general. In a strictly Autechrean context .. no, not similar, completely different sound than Confield. The beats are less abstract but harder to follow in Draft, and the songs seem to me to have very a similar sound, whereas in Confield I found it quite easy to identify tracks and tell them apart. Draft seems more homogenous, not in a bad way, just in the sense that the tracks are less-recognizable from each other than Confield's more eclectic sonic pallette.
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-23 16:05 [#00665330]
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A bad one :).
So, is anyone going to punish him?
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-04-23 16:35 [#00665388]
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UVIOL, very true. I've said the same thing before in one of my first draft posts when i first listened to it.
I basically said it made me FEEL LIKE A ELECTRONICA NOOBIE again, because I went through the tracks, and couldn't tell any of them apart for so long. It took me a _long_ time to be able to recognize each and every track. DrukQs was the same way, very hard. Draft def put me in my place.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-04-23 22:17 [#00665783]
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why does everyone hate the review?? i dont get it...
and i definitely see some confield resemblance too, which is good. half the tracks on draft have a similar feel/structure to confield imo, but maybe i'm the only one who thinks that.
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-04-23 22:28 [#00665793]
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i dont get it either.
why are we even caring anyway? its just a review. write a review yourself and i bet you it will be just about as half assed as this amazon one to someone else because its just how YOU think the album is.
the whole "i hate reviewers" thing is weird. just shrug and move on, realizing its just his/her perception. no reason to get huffy about it.
well, other than the reason to make message board chatter ;)
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-04-23 22:39 [#00665814]
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"just shrug and move on, realizing its just his/her perception."
fuck yeah, well said.
most people tend to say the reviewer is shit if what he says doesnt conclude with their own opinion.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-04-24 09:17 [#00666613]
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"most people tend to say the reviewer is shit if what he says doesnt conclude with their own opinion. "
exactly right!!
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-04-24 12:20 [#00666822]
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word about the massive speakers
thats right.
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billabongbill
from Dublin (Ireland) on 2003-04-24 13:09 [#00666904]
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jeez, what's wrong with that review???? sounds like some of yiz are just nit-picking imho. it's a positive review to a great album, that's all that matters really. the writing might not be the best but it does an ok job of describing the album to someone who mightened of heard AE before.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-04-24 13:11 [#00666907]
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one thing that I think is funny is when reviewers misspell a song name... I read one review for draft 7.30, and the guy spelt v-proc as uprock... I had no idea what he was talking about first, but he said something about it coming after P.:NTIL so I put two and two together... damn idiot!!
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