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im really interested in buying a coil release, but know almost nothing about them. what would you recommend to me (a huge autechre fan)? peferably something fairly recent. thanks! |
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get "loves secret domain" autechre themselves have actually accredited this as being one of their favourite releases |
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HorseRotorVator is my fave release...it´s not hard to understand why Ae is influenced by them. HorseRotorVator still sounds pretty fresh after all these years. Highly recommended |
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As much as I love Horse Rotorvator and LSD, I wouldn't recommend them to start off with. They are absolute necessities of course, but at times are a bit of an acquired taste. I'd start off with both of the Musick To Play In The Dark albums, and the Solstice/Equinox Series. Amazing, amazing albums. Constant Shallowness... shows their more viscous electronic side, and Worship The Glitch is all experimental squiggly electronica. Black Light District gives a good indication of their different styles too. Probably the ideal solution is to just buy the two Russian compilations CDs, A Goden Hair and A Silver Voice, which were recently reissued as a 2CD. They are compilations spanning the whole of Coils career, with one CD containing their more laidback, ambient, scary stuff, and the other containing their more upbeat violent stuff. Then of course you can worry about LSD, Horse Rotorvator and the many other releases out there..... |
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I like the "Unnatural History" I & II compilations... ...features "How to destroy angels - ritual music for the accumulation of male sexual energy" - one of my favorite titles ever! |
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I too started with "Love's Secret Domain". Then I moved on to the Musick to Play in the Dark albums, prefer vol.1 over vol.2. Then I got into their more droney stuff like Time Machines (great trippy album, IMHO) and Queens of the Circulating Library. Their stuff as ELPh is good if you want a more experimental electronic sound. It was only later that I got into the earlier stuff like Scatology and Horse Rotovator. The thing about Coil is that the sheer size of their catalog makes it hard to know where to begin! |
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I echo everything blipseed said in his message. My personal favorite is Musick to Play in the Dark Volume II. I'd also recommend that you give Cyclobe's 'Luminous Darkness' a listen as well as Thighpaulsandra's 'I, Thighpaulsandra'. |
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Read this as well : http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/142_coil.shtml |
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I prefer their earlier, harsher stuff... because I've never been a huge fan of ambient music. Not to say their later stuff isn't good, beacause it IS... MusickTPITD is fabtacular. But I like the psuedo-gothic industrial stuff they did early on, shoving everything but the kitchen sink into the tracks. |
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Let's not forget The Black Light District. |
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I concur with some Love's Sectret Domain IS the best place to start for an IDM fan...it predates and yet predicts IDM in a big way..a lot of what sounds like grainulizing, bit crushing etc are being used way back when (1991)..plus there's the sheer variety funky electro styles...typical of Coil..they set out to mock/incorporate Acid House into their sound with this album but ended up creating an album which still revolutionary even by todays standards Musick To Play in the Dark...is great but not the best starting point by any measures.... |
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· Scatology and Horse Rotorvator are the most easy to get into, and very good ones.. more industrial oriented, not really experimental. · Love's Secret Domain is very good but would give you a wrong image of the general sound of Coil! get it, but don't limit yourself to it. · Moon's Milk (in four phases) is my favorite probably, it's the four solstices + equinoxes EPs (so to say, one EP per season) combined in one disc! representative of Coil's sound, and excellent (though not the easier release to get into at all, you may need several listens to fully appreciate it even if you already know other Coil). that's the release i would keep if i had to keep just one of my Coil releases. · if you like dark ambiant, try Astral Disaster or Black Light District: A Thousand Lights In A Darkened Room! or Time Machines, for a more hypnotic and meditative ambiance - definitely to play in the dark!! and if you like Godspeed You Black Emperor, try to get the Remote Viewer (though you definitely won't find it in stores nor to order... the mp3s are uploaded on someone's ftp here... ;)) · first Coil album i bought was Musick To Play In The Dark, vol.1, and that's the one i would recommend for first album. vol.2 was deceiving to me, i needed months to get into it. |
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coil: what to buy? how about nothing... they played themselves. |
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LSD is essential. Check out Psychic TV and Throbbing Gristle..some Coil members were in these groups. Chris & Cosey are great too. |
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JUST received in the mail today MUSICK TO PLAY INN THE DARK (vol 1) i'm waiting for vol 2 and Moon's Milk to arrive shortly. i ordered from strangefortune.com.....took a while (3 + weeks) but it's legit. i would recommend it. |
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sorry not busting your balls or nothing.. but I think you are equally likely to get wrong impression of Coil if you start out with Music to Play in the Dark Vol.1 I mean I got into Coil:The Industrial Band..and was a bit disappointed by the increasingly (what I thought naively) Morose direction their later stuff was taking..but I have had a turnaround since then thanks to Meho:)..but coming back to Music to Play in the Dark..it is a fantastic album..but is it anymore representative of COIL?...not in my opinion.....lets do it track by track.. 1.Are You Shivering...interesting enough if you remove the atrocious old fashioned droning guitar/synth that plays over and over throughout the track..the glitchy rhythm while interesting are very basic...only Balance's vocals salvage the track for me..but once again they are more in the vein of Edward Ka Spel..than an original Coil representation.. 2.Red Birds Will Fly....once again a great track but..once it gets going it sounds more like Orb or a beatless Orbital track than Coil... 3.Red Queen..Now we are talking..this IS Coil..even though it IS a very basic track..and once again Balance's Voice and Words are more reminiscint of Genesis P'Orridge then vintage Balance 4.Broccoli...It is delightful..dark twisted playful and very very Subversive...i.e very very Coil..but now John Balance sounds like Michael Gira from SWANS.. 5.Strange Birds-The most accomplished glitchy rhythm on the album starts this track..and lots of manipulation and experimentation coupled with mildly disturbing samples...this is the first track on the album that makes the album standout for me 6.The Dreamer is Still Awake-Another really funky glitchy rhythms starts this track..and then it ventures into a lovely tune..and finally for the first time in the whole album..John Balance sounds like the John Balance I know and know and love...though this could have also been very easily a Tear Garden track... |
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