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OK, there goes my good reputation (if i had one).. i don't make electronic music myself (do play piano), but i'm interested in what a person needs to make decent electronic music.. i'm confused with all these terms: amplifiers, sequencers, synthesizers, drummachines, the software (fruityloops/cubase) and more of that could someone tell me which equipment is necessary and what these different things do (what they are used for (melody/beat etc))? maybe you could also give some examples (types/brands) of these different machines (please don't say: "what the hell are you doing on this mb? move to the spice-girls-mb" .. 'cause i got banned there ;) ) thanks in advance :) *sees phob shake his head again: "and you want to be my moderator"* |
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fruityloops and computer is all you need for a start :) |
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where do you get the sounds (beats etc.) then? do they come along with FL? |
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If you can play piano, you should be able to learn how to play synths, no problem at all. Amplifiers are strictly neccesary if you're running all your speakers etc. from your PC. Drum machines are just for rhythm. Grooveboxes are quite a broad range of machines, but typically a hybrid of sequencable synth and drum machines. Synths are used for melody although you can often make percusion type noises on them. Software can do anything hardware can. The difference in quality is debatable. Some are all in one packages (the software equivalent of a groovebox) others specialise in one area- making melody, percussion etc. arranging existing sounds. As to brands/models: Synths: Korg Triton Roland TB-303 (squelchy bass associated with acid music) Roland SH-101 Drum Machines: Roland TR-808 (classic techno drum sounds) |
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You do get examples with it, but you can (and should!) make your own. |
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Don't forget the speakers. ;) Fruityloops is easy to use with quite some possiblities. There will be a big upgrade version out soon with a sequencer and a wave editor in it. A sequencer is roughly a program where you can mix your music with. Most come with lot of possibilities (effects, softsynths). Big names in sequencing are Sonar, Cubase and Logic. A wave editor let's you play around with soundsamples. Mostly used are Wavelab, Soundforge and cool edit pro. Have also a look at http://www.computermusic.co.uk And most important when you get some software, read the manual. ;) ) |
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Get fruityloops shareware to get started. |
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thanks, i'll download fruityloops for a start You do get examples with it, but you can (and should!) make your own. do you mean record with a mic (if you don't have any drummachines, synths etc)? or pick(/steal) them from other tracks? i'm sure you should make your own, otherwise people can easily tell "hey you made that with fruityloops" right? thx again :) |
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Yes, one of the reasons people say "all fruityloops stuff sounds alike" is that a lot of people use the included samples and effects. If you start adding other plugins and synths into it, it's impossible to tell it was made with fruityloops. Someone recently said they thought my stuff was made with hardware. It was made in fruityloops, but there were sounds from a lot of other things in it and very few original fruity samples. You can make your own rhythm loops with fruity loops and there are a few basic synths included. You should also look at drumsyn (freeware) for making your own drum sounds for use in fruity loops. |
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...maybe somethin' more to add..? ...someone... |
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youve got msn? |
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Why are people so interested in being moderators? Now, that's something I wonder about... |
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yeah i'll add you when i get home if that's ok with you |
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i think (hope) morton's just joking and everyone is falling for it |
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ok.. rombouts@kabelfoon.nl |
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'cause when you're a mod you can ban people who ask stupid questions, like you! :P ;) no, i'm just kiddin', it's just some nonsense, i always moan about that for no reason |
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i made the xlt musica massacre track with fruityloops. btw. who's turn is it now ? |
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mortsto-x: for the same reason people like to have op's in mIRC channels |
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not your vaagisdecrew email in your account here? |
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eh nope... that one completely fucked up when i was toying around with some h4xx0rs stuff... moral of the story: DONT GO 1337! :p |
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if you have some questions with floops matrigs@wp.pl |
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what is a 'snare rush'? and an 'amen break'? |
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Argggghhhhh! |
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go on give us a snare rushuhsuhsshurrldsjhGGRROROROO |
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Ceri JC > what... you have to learn this somehow, don't you? |
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Sorry, it's just those two questions seem to come up at least once a week :( |
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i added you JAroen you're not on msn now right? |
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yes sorry didnt notice the popup :) see it now |
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Ceri JC > sorry... will make a search then ' - ' |
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AAARRRRRGGH.. fruityloops AHHHHHHHHHCK. take an advice n stay away from that horible so called music software. get your self some decent tracker instead. like fasttracker, madtracker 2, renoise or somthing. but take an advice n stay away from from fruityloops, it will corupt you. |
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how? havent noticed anything... |
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i just spent a good part of my life yesterday trying to get my sampler fixed :/ but yeah its being seen to now. and i got a lend of another one to play the weekends gig. my ass got saved! |
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morton, i reference to your "how do i get sounds" question; i have always made my own from darn near scratch. i usually like to make my own snares (buttons snapping, microwave door closing, etc.) and other sounds in my immediate area. for synths or more digital sounds, you just have to do some sound-sculpting. i know it is expensive, but i can't begin to tell you how much cubase has enhanced the quality of my own work... i would suggest to ANYONE looking to do original electronic music that cubase is THE way to go. of course money is a factor, i also use bram bos' taureg and tu2 programs that you can aquire online in freeware versions. hope this has helped. |
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thx all :) |
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well i d/l-ed FL3.56 (incl. some virusses but that has been solved now :D ) and also some 'acid music loops voice pack' for FL, they're all *.xi files, where should i install/paste them??? thx |
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in your sample folder |
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let us know when you've finished your first track! You downloaded fl today, i'm expecting a first song tomorrow ;-) chop chop! Get to it! :-p |
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Tracker are unnecesary! theres a good tracker called buzz, but almost everything it does, can be transferred to fruity! so there. |
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yeah yourright |
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haha well i made aprox. 30 seconds of 'something' already it was more to try all sounds and get to learn the program (haven't figured out the most of it yet i'm affraid) it's fun though :) although i lost my patience after a while :\ i'll let you know when my first CD is ready (if this board still exists at that time (and if you still exists of course)) :) |
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"and if you still exists of course" lol, i'm not that old yet! ;-) It seems most people figure fl out pretty quickly, so it probably won't be long until you've created www.zebox.com/morton ;-) When i get my own computer again i'm gonna try and download it too i think... it seems like too much fun to be missing out on :-D |
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btw maybe you were right 'bout that "some people actually have some work to do" ...'cause i realise that today i'm exactly on this mb for 100 days (since 20-11-2002)... and i have 2339 points well let's asume i voted in about 5 or 6 polls, that still leaves me with more than 23 msg/day don't tell the boss of philips :D i'll get fired :\ |
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haahha if your on msn i wanna hear that song and does surfing the mb pay well? im gonna study chemistry for sure now :) playing with plastics & internet for free & still having a job sounds great to me |
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Morton, I am on MSN occasionally- feel free to add me: cerijc@yahoo.com |
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uzim said "whats a snare rush?" snare drum rolls, usually increasing in intensity to punctuate the lead-in to the reinstatement of the main big beat. Term was originally used for bad trance and house music because of its cliched nature |
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what exactly is an amplifier? |
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youve got to be kidding |
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I know everything, but I'm sometimes not familiar with the english words that mean this or that. |
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its the thing on your stereo where all the pretty wires go in and you plug the speakers in as well |
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sort of a receiver then? |
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