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I've gone off Aphex Twin...:(
 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-23 06:48 [#00567298]
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I really can't understand why, it's actually rather
depressing. But almost all his music, bar a few tracks, just
bores me! Maybe it's time to move on, I guess.
I'm actually getting into early 70's electronic music,
which I find a lot more interesting, as well as some 20th
century classical music, and Autechre becomes more and more
interesting for me (I used to hate it)

Is anyone else having the same problem? Maybe it's because
he hasn't made anything for a while, I dunno...his records
just do it for me anymore; I find them boring.


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-02-23 06:53 [#00567303]
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except for druqks which i play from time to time i feel the
same. i won't say it's a problem because there is so much
out there these days you will never get bored


 

offline danbrusca from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-23 06:55 [#00567304]
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I've been like that recently with Squarepusher, though I
took a listen to Budakhan Mindphone earlier in the week and
quite enjoyed it, so perhaps it's not a permanent thing.

I've noticed some RDJ falling further down my chart of late,
namely I Care Because You Do, Classic, Donkey Rhubarb and
the Ventolin EPs.

As time goes on, what once seemed really good appears less
so as your music collection grows.


 

offline uzim on 2003-02-23 06:55 [#00567306]
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dunno... maybe just let him be for a couple of weeks/months,
then try to re-listen to it...

there was the album by NIN, The Downward Spiral, which i
found had gone 'stale' after having listening to it so much.
i listened to it some weeks ago and it just didn't feel the
same at all.
but yesterday i relistened to it and i found the emotions
back again...

there is also hard normal daddy by >[] which i don't listen
to anymore though it is good, and some other albums. it is
sad... like, you still want to like the music but the music
doesn't like you anymore...


 

offline Cheffe1979 from fuck (Austria) on 2003-02-23 06:57 [#00567307]
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yep, and 'mindblowing' simply isn't a permanent quality


 

offline TonePu5her from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-23 07:00 [#00567308]
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I've got quite heavily back into Aphex,I've gone way off
SQ.
I've gone to more Guitar stuff,Sigu Ros,Radiohead,pink
floyd.

It happens to everyone.At one point I totally lost faith in
Electronica,but shit happens.Its just a matter how you feel
during a certain period of time.


 

offline teapot from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-02-23 07:00 [#00567310]
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ive been off aphex for ages... i think when i got into
autechre it kinda killed the magic i had with aphex... now
im Ae obsessed... but aphex is starting to interest me again
a bit... i thought drukqs was pretty nice


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-23 07:00 [#00567311]
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well, most of RDJs stuff sounds kind of dated by now - which
makes it less listenable to me.


 

offline TonePu5her from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-23 07:01 [#00567312]
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I prefer some older stuff some times.


 

offline uzim on 2003-02-23 07:02 [#00567314]
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"dated"? wtf?

is music that temporal, i don't think so.


 

offline IronLung from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-02-23 07:03 [#00567315]
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I would have to say Richard comes in THIRD behind ALOT of Ae
and ALOT of BoC....

I listen to SAW II more than anything lately, I listened to
Druqks so much I burned myself out on it...So its been a
couple months since i listened to that.

( I still love the red haired bugger though )



 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-02-23 07:05 [#00567316]
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I have roughly 200+ cds' and I only ever feel like listening
to 2 or 3. but that 2 or 3 changes every day and I often
find myself cycling right through my collection within the
month, just go with what you feel like listening to, don't
force yourself to listen to anything, just wait until you
want to...


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-23 07:08 [#00567317]
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yeah i can't say afx tops my idm list anymore either. he has
to come up with something entirely new to satisfy me, i
guess.

that said, i've been listening to 26 mixes for cash for the
past week now and it makes me very very happy. it's
lightheartedness is a nice contrast to draft 7.30's
seriousness. it's a shame that afx's best stuff in years
should be a remix cd, though. full of 'dated' sounds at that
;)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-23 07:13 [#00567320]
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are you being naive?

ofcourse it can.

especially electronic music, which has been progressing
quite fast the last 20 years or so.

I think his production on his older stuff sounds flat, as do
the sounds he uses.

I mean, ae's older stuff has way too much reverb going on -
which can make it sound kind of old too. but ae still keep
me interested because of the quality of sounds they've
used.

also would say they were more interesting structurally - but
thats a different discussion.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-23 07:17 [#00567322]
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i'd say autechre doesn't sound too dated because they didn't
ride the acid wave. well, music-wise anyway :D. they used
their own sounds which is why even incunabula sounds
exciting to this day.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-23 07:19 [#00567323]
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mm. well, incunabula sounds dated to me. its the only ae I
can't stand.


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-02-23 07:20 [#00567324]
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i don't really think 'good' music ever sounds dated if put
back in context
that said i'm sorry but for me there's many old stuff by
"idm stars..." that i think sounds more fresh simply because
electronic music now is a lot of the same, i find ABB3 to be
more fresh than cometodaddy, amber more than ep7, etc...


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-23 07:22 [#00567326]
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to the average technohead it probably wouldn't, though. and
btw, have you heard cavity job? now that is dated ae ;)


 

offline rchrddvdjms from pellentrix (Papua new Guinea) on 2003-02-23 07:22 [#00567327]
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you lot talk as though you know something about it, it makes
me smile to feel the ignorance


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-02-23 07:22 [#00567328]
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well, it's not that i like them more just i think they sound
more fresh
but, i think it may come from the fact that i never liked
too clean production :)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-23 07:22 [#00567329]
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true, true.. :)


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-23 07:23 [#00567331]
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still out to troll, rchrddvdjms?


 

offline Refund from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-02-23 07:24 [#00567332]
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cavity job made me laugh, and then made me cry.


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-02-23 07:25 [#00567334]
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oh, please enlighten us, PLEASE!


 

offline rchrddvdjms from pellentrix (Papua new Guinea) on 2003-02-23 07:26 [#00567335]
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it just amuses me how rumours can become gospel in this
place


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-23 07:26 [#00567336]
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at your service!



 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-02-23 07:27 [#00567337]
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I only like the old IDM, the new stuff bores me to death.
Too much scribbling and meddling around with petty
soundschemes that are uninteresting.
I'd take melody over this form of "abstract" programming any
day.


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-02-23 07:27 [#00567338]
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that's a fact in most moderatly big group of young people ;)


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-02-23 07:28 [#00567339]
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kinda my feelings lately, i wait for something simple and
entertaining and beautiful and TUNEFUL...


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-23 07:29 [#00567340]
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ah that was for rchrddvdjms :) whatever floats yer boat mate
:D

note the ironic reference to pim fortuyn, btw


 

offline rchrddvdjms from pellentrix (Papua new Guinea) on 2003-02-23 07:33 [#00567342]
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IDM has gone up its own ass, and out of its mouth again,
hate-core is where its at now! bring on ventian snares and
his neo-nazi cohorts!

j/k :)


 

offline E-man from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-02-23 07:36 [#00567343]
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µ-hahahahaha
:-| god i'm bored, i think i'm going to smoke a cig walking
in the sun...

ps : don't go off any twin...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-02-23 07:37 [#00567345]
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i listen to afx every once in a while, so i dont get bored
of him :)
there's so much other stuff to listen to...
and i only recently got his 2 remixes release and im loving
it
i think thats the key here, dont over do it with aphex :)


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-02-23 07:43 [#00567354]
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hhmmm I don't know tolstoyed, I can listen to
saw85-92,saw2,ICBYD and some tracks like logon rock witch
off the RDJ album and never get bored of it. They always are
an inspiration and they can always take me places.


 

offline rchrddvdjms from pellentrix (Papua new Guinea) on 2003-02-23 07:47 [#00567358]
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kcinsu rules the roost at IDM towers


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-02-23 07:47 [#00567359]
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hmm, i listened to those two remixes like 50 times in 5
days, and didnt get bored of it
his music doesnt really bore me, i just appreciate it more
if i listen to lots of other stuff aswell :)


 

offline xceque on 2003-02-23 07:49 [#00567360]
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wtf is all this?!? You can get too much of a good
thing if you listen to it constantly and it will lose it's
impact, but you can return to it later after abstinance and
get knocked out by it again and again. My opinion is that
you're narrow minded if you ignore older stuff just cos of
the stigma of 'out of date'. If you geninely don't like it
any more, fine, your loss, if it's just a phase, don't give
up on it so easily. And if you're just trying to be trendy
with what you convince yourself you like, well fuck off. I
think I'll just continue to listen to the stuff I like, old
or new. Move on, come back later.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-02-23 07:58 [#00567375]
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I listen to some afx everyday(maybe 30 mins)... and one day
a week I have an all afx day... and I love it more and more
each time...specially the old stuff


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-23 07:58 [#00567376]
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when I say I think it sounds out of date, that is why I
think I don't like it.

what the fuck is wrong with that?

I'm not saying anyone else has to see it that way, just my
opinion.

don't take things like this so personal.


 

offline xceque on 2003-02-23 08:00 [#00567381]
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heh, nothing personal : ) just having a bad day today.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-23 08:03 [#00567386]
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oh dear.

how come?


 

offline MachineofGod from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-02-23 08:18 [#00567405]
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"I have roughly 200+ cds' and I only ever feel like
listening
to 2 or 3. but that 2 or 3 changes every day and I often
find myself cycling right through my collection within the
month, just go with what you feel like listening to, don't
force yourself to listen to anything, just wait until you
want to... "

same thing happens with me, sometimes I wonder why I have
some cds but I always return to most of them, it all works
out, dont try to force yourself into anything if you dont
want to listen to it at that point.



 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-02-23 09:30 [#00567533]
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same thing with me. i always cycle through my cd collection.
sometimes i'll find albums that i bought a month ago and
didn't give much thought about, then i'll listen to them and
realize they're genius. i always seem to come back to aphex
twin though. "dated" is a pretty superficial term to use
around this type of music. nothings too old or out of date
for me.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-02-23 10:08 [#00567593]
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seriously, get all aphex twin, there is so many styles in
his music. get some older stuff, u'll never get tired of his
creativity. =)


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-02-23 10:09 [#00567596]
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i have 300+ cd's and i listen to aphex twin nearly every
day!


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-23 10:23 [#00567620]
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I still like a little of Druqks, but all this new (and old)
music I'm discovering has opened my eyes a little.

I've also come to realise that synth "oldies" make some
really exciting music indeed. Try out Vangelis' "Heaven and
Hell"...amazing stuff.

I know what you mean about getting tired of CD's...but I
must agree with qrter, I PERSONALLY find Aphex Twin a little
flat and out of date. Ah well.


 

offline Tab from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-23 11:01 [#00567658]
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even dated music can still be beautifull and brilliant.
druqks to me was his least innovative album, the one that
sounded like a mix of everything he had done to date,
whereas all the other seemed to follow a brand new theme
throughout.. (come to daddy - industrial, classics - techno
etc)..
aphex always sounds fresh to me, and certainly whoops BoCs
tedious stuck in a rut arse (btw i like them too really, but
they could do with progressing their sound a little, theres
only so much i can take)

i cant beleive someone can actually hate incunabula! i
mean.. Hate???
even to me it sounds dated now (it is you see), but its
still absolutely amazing.. those melodies... that wrapped in
cotton wool, floating on a cloud lushness thruout-- its
sublime.. leave it for a bit, then put it back on when u
suddenly get the urge to hear it.. trust me, that time will
come


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-02-23 19:08 [#00568370]
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most aphex albums cannot ever go out of date.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-02-23 19:13 [#00568381]
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exactly my opinion


 

offline CS2x from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-23 19:14 [#00568382]
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I like the first 3 tracks of Incunabula.

Acutally, some of Tangerine Dream's stuf rocks too. As well
as Brian Eno....


 


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