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Ok, I know not many people dig BT. Im not a big fan myself... but you do have to give the guy credit... he succeded in being successful with electronic music on a large scale. Anyways, yesterday he did a lecture at my school. He actually went to Berklee for a semester I think it was, and dropped out to move to LA. But yeah, so he did demonstrations with on his approach to music writting, and discussed alot of in depth recording/synthesis processes. And I must say, he KNEW HIS SHIT! Like seriously, he was very savy with it all. I always kind of thought of BT, (and other mainstream acts for that matter) (and im sure alot of the IDM community does too) that mainstream electronic artists dont really know what they are doing, and that they are just making simple 4 to the floor tunes, and blah blah. But he really, REALLY knew his shit. I learned ALOT actually, that I am goin to expirement with in my tracks (mastering techniques mostly). So yeah, it all just comes down to personal tastes really. He isnt some moron who doesnt know what hes doing (although his kinda dorky, and needs a hair cut). He chooses to write dance music, because he really enjoys it. With his knowledge of sound design and technical ability, Im sure he could write some great IDM, but its just not his thing. So yeah, Im kind of turned around on him. He has alot more credibility in my eyes now. More respect. So yeah, just felt like sharing that with you. *Proccedes to hear the onslaught of BT dissings* :-D |
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movement in still life is an excellent album all the way through imo. |
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BT's pretty dope half the time. looking forward to his new album and the song that sounds like "world music meets autechre." |
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Yeah he does some clever stuff,well thought out. |
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shaz music |
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I like BT. His newer stuff tho....some of his older tracks r' wack. Zeus....check out his album ! |
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I have ESCM its good for what it is. I actually heard one of his unreleased tracks last night. Pretty cool too. |
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what was it like? |
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um very dancy. typical BT track, from the little I know of his music. Sorry I couldnt be of much help there. Great production, nice female vocals, and really nice build ups. |
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So, when is BTs new Album coming out !? Did he mention a release date !? |
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Actually, I dont think he did... *ponders* I think the professor that introduced him said something like "and he has a new album to be released soon" but thats it. |
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mmmm....interesting. I admit to having a few of his cd's in my collection,so I can't really criticise the guy! p.s. did he mention getting his gear nicked from his studio? };> |
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no he didnt mention that. this wasnt so much a "Meet BT" thing, but a "this is how BT works" thing. He said he was really excited to just sit down and talk technology/writting with people, that could relate. So he basically just went off. It was pretty cool :) |
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Yeah, he is nerd. Sasha on BT in a recent interview.. "But BT has spent his entire life in the studio. He has no social life, and he's been locked in the studio for the past 15 years." |
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hahah yes, and it shows |
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I respect him too, and I can really see where your're comming from Zeus. I am sure he could create wacky Autechre sounds, but he prefers to produce more dance/world-orientated sounds for HIS style. ESCM is really great, imho. |
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I'm also very jelous of you, getting to see this, Zeus..:D Can you tell me some more technical details about how he does his stuff? |
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well, ok he uses Reason alot. He said he loves it, and its very powerful. he made a drum loop in like 2 mins that rocked. He then exported it as a wav, and opened it in Logic to do some DSP. The thing he said that he encourages people to do most, is to shelf their samples, and to make them time accurate. He said that it can really save a track. It can make it less muddy, and makes it better for performances. Basically what he was doing, was zooming into the samples like, really zoomed in, and cuttig out the preattack of the wav, so the attack was EXACTLY on the beat. He said he hates midi, because its so un accurate (we are talking milliseconds here, but he says there is a difference that you can tell) Um. Yeah, he uses logic alot. And lots of pluggins. He says he is using soft synths more and more. |
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yea, BT's cool but I also think he should burn for his shunning of MIDI. |
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Nah...MIDI can be limiting, I suppose. Hearing all this is making we wonder slightly...perhaps Autechre aren't all that amazing? Anyone could shove a pile of DSP effects on a soud to create a fucked-up original sound. Maybe what BT does, is in fact harder? I dunno what I'm trying to say...it's hard to explain. |
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YOU'LL BURN FOR THAT PROBABLKY GOD DAMN KIDS IN MY YARD |
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Of course, most "Mainstream" producers like Max Martin etc, have an extensive technical knowledge, and are excellent audio engeneers. |
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'tis was simply an idea, sir |
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who the hell is BT? |
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"he uses Reason alot" Reason is hardly "state of the art" software, I think he's paid to say this. Most stuff in Reason is built to be easy on the CPU which compromises the quality... "He said he hates midi, because its so un accurate" MIDI is unaccurate, especially when a lot of data is being transmitted at once, I wish there was something better too. Still there's no reason to hate it since so many people have made great tracks using this old system... |
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well, I dunno but he did slam out some cool shit with reason |
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Okay, Honestly I don't understand the midi thing or the time-correcting thing. I hear a lot of these terms thrown around, but I don't think people really know what they mean. As far as I know, midi doesn't matter when you render a .wav from it, right? there are no millisecond delays, or anything inaccurate about it - that's why it takes so freaking long to render a lot of midi information to audio, am I correct? I could understand why he would say midi was bad for *live* stuff - but for general studio recording, what's the problem? |
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someone want to answer my question, who is this guy? |
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allmusic.com you lazy fuck |
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you could've just answered my question, and it would've taken fewer letters I'm sure... |
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Because of the Midi Latency, etc, some drum machines and synths have timimg problems etc......Ah well actually I have no clue ! |
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yeah, but when you're rendering, it should render spot-on, right? no latency at all.... |
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renderblenderKWkweeponrickininthr dfreewworld |
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MIDI isnt rendered. I mean, if you have a sequencer running 4 external synths and a drum machine... it isnt rendered... its recorded. Thats where the latency is an issue. |
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and yeah, MIDI works for alot of people but his argument is that, if you take the time to Time Correct the audio files, it will hugely improve your mix |
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I've always liked BT and his music. There ARE talented mainstrem musicians like BT and Hybrid. BT is also a trained pianist and that is one of the reasons Tori Amos collaborated with him on IMA. PLEASE PLEASE tell me more of his tips. Feel free to overexplain:) |
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yeah right, midi is shit, therefore 99% of aphex/squarepusher/autechre/BoC is shit BT's a fool |
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Yes, same here! And I love Hybrid too! |
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hey mr. mature dude! Like I said, it works fine. This was merely a tip he gave to help clean up a mix. he said its also super helpful when playing in a live area, so the dealys are less noticeable, and gives more of a punch. |
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he also uses compression on his drums but he warned that this can seriously fuck up the time accuracy and so once you compress it, to go back and do all that editing I was talking about |
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BT is NOT a fool, he simply dislikes MIDI...fucking imagine if Autechre said that, you'd be all like, "omg, I must drop everything midi!" |
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exactly |
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thats nonsense - if every sound was perfectly timed, you'd end up with robotic inhuman beats - zero groove. BT aint gonna help you. |
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zeus the cross-poster and general spammer |
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um so you think autechre and aphex and squarepusher doent have robotic inhuman beats? And you can still groove with time accurate peices. I didnt say it had to be straight 8th feels. He also did stuff with premapped groove feels, that arnt exactly mathmatically even. But the point isnt getting the ryhtem even in the sense of 2 is EXACTLY between 1 and 3... but where ever you are emphasiing a beat, all the other instruments hit exactly at that time as well. it just adds a sonic clarity. |
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crimes against humanity I know |
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and at no point did I say "THIS IS HOW IT MUST BE DONE" this is BTs style, and what he likes its interesting to me. Im gonna experiment with it, and see how it suit me. You can do whatever you want. Just dont get your knickers twisted because people do things differently then you. |
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like about gay people! who cares leave then lone! |
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hehe yeah babes |
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i dont think ive ever listened to his music.... but i saw the apple promotional video with him endorsing the new 17 inch powerbook, and he sounded like a moron whos done way too much drugs |
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