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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-02-22 10:01 [#00566195]
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Possibly.
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uzim
on 2003-02-22 10:08 [#00566212]
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Dawn chorus isnt that one of the most beatiful songs ever made?
> i wouldn't go that far...
TonePu5her > Carol Vorderman?
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-22 10:10 [#00566215]
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On acid.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-02-22 10:22 [#00566233]
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carol vorderman has an iq of about 170 and shes on tv as a presenter. what a waste. such is britain.
dawn chorus sure is beautiful...listen to Cut la roc - Fallen (aim mix)...also great
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-22 10:24 [#00566235]
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I think its been mentioned on this board but mariyln monroe has a slightly higher IQ than Eintstein..
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-02-22 13:05 [#00566472]
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imo not scary at all.....a track like 'the devil is in the details' is weird, '1969' refers to David Koresh and all the children's voices can be experienced as occult or something, but I find this album rather soothing and relaxing. Listen to v/vm's 'come to daddy' remix, that freaks me out totally...:S
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-22 13:08 [#00566477]
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Donkey Rhubarb freaks me out,especially the video.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-02-22 13:11 [#00566483]
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yes it is
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uzim
on 2003-02-22 13:24 [#00566504]
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donkey rhubarb? are you serious?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-22 13:52 [#00566549]
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Ive always looked at MHTRTC and Geogaddi as their yin and yang
MHTRTC is like a dream.
Geogaddi is like a nightmare.
They are both surreal, and dreamy... and on the surface, geogaddi seems to be made exactly like MHTRTC, but if you look closer, its much more dark.
This is why I think its so brilliant. Because its so subtle, but it DOES affect you.
This is also why I think geogaddi wasnt recieved well by alot of people. They had heard MHTRTC, an loved the warm, surreal sound, and wanted more. When geogaddi came out, it was still that sound, but this time it had dark nightmare undertones, that people couldnt put their finger on. They wanted a safe feeling album, and geogaddi is NOT that.
I actually read an interview with BoC, (remix mag I think?) and thats pretty much how BoC described it too. (I read the articale after I came up with this whole theory) So yeah. This was their intention
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-02-22 20:03 [#00566977]
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i agree that geogaddi isn't as positive or happy sounding as MHTRTC...
geogaddi has lots of dark parts in it, but overall i think its really positive, and it has a more coherent theme all together than MHTRTC
especially from devil in the details onwards....
well first of all the lyrics in Devil In The Details are very positive imo
("...the healthy, receptive centre of your self" "open yourself up to the greater wisdom and understanding" "you are being tranformed in a positive healthy way" "gaining new insight into your directions" "allow yourself to be more aware of your pathway through this life"
"more and more happily, more and more surely, more and more powerfully, each day"
"this awareness will come back to you at your own rate. it will never be more than you can cope with. this guidance will help show you the way")
.....seems to be describing a kind of spiritual or intellectual awakening, blossom or rebirth ( note the "come back to you" part)
this isn't just a sample of some generic self help therapy audio tape
then we have Dawn Chorus (dawn... a new begining, after the lyrics of Devil in the Details, is very fitting)
in Dawn Chorus, the voices (which imo are very very well done, some of the best boc have done so far IMO) are, to me, saying "bye", which at first made me interpret it as sad... but now i think of it as more positive... they could be saying goodbye to childhood, (they are children), so you're growing, not just leaving something behind
also, at one point the voices sort of come together, and a girl seems to be saying "i thought maybe you were dead..." (the words are sort of jumbled up but i think i hear it pretty distinctly)
..like youre just waking up (anyone else hear this?) plus the song is simply beautiful
then we have You Could Feel The Sky... again, a beautiful track, and BOC said in an interview that the sound in the main loop from the begining is supposed to be like a rope being stretched across the deck of a ship...
(settin
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-02-22 20:06 [#00566980]
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(...damn my message got cut off)
...uh.... ok i think i was going to say:
...(setting off a new beginning? also a new kind of place.. teh ocean as opposed to land)
then corsair, which is, AGAIN, really beautiful.... ..BoC describe Geogaddi as a " twisting journey that takes you into some pretty dark experiences before you reach the open air again. It has a kind of narrative. That's why we ended it with 'Corsair', it's like the light at the end of the tunnel."
...so yeah, to me Geogaddi seems to be about a sort of awakening, or even revival or rebirth, and a new beginning
....btw that chunk of interview, and other stuff like that, plus clarification and interpretations on what the vocals are can be found at:
www.davidac.fsworld.co.uk/boc.htm .....a great site
....btw i didn't get this interpretation from the site.... its only my own i didn't get it from anywhere
but the site is great to help figure out fuzzy vocals and other stuff
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-02-22 20:14 [#00566985]
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Damn Zeus that is exactly how I feel about the two albums. I agree they are the same but are very different!
btw I think over the horizon radar is also a beautiful track
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-02-24 02:39 [#00568574]
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i just bought mhtr2c, and yes it is floatyer and less substansial than geogaddi,i still prefer geogaddi it has more variety and more of a flow to it.....plus mhtr2c has too many very long/short tracks and no middlers.....
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KiloWatts
from Richardson (United States) on 2003-02-24 03:20 [#00568636]
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I'll be honest, the first time I read about all the subliminal stuff, and the voices and whatnot, I immedately fell backwards into thought about a certain bad trip I had - something powerful enough to invoke thoughts about occultism, demons, devils, awakening, transformation, etc etc the whole shabang.
I immediately listened to Geogaddi all the way through, and practically relived the damn trip... There are a lot of psychedelic things going in in this album, and I don't doubt for a moment that the main tone is to portray a person who traverses into dark nightmarish places only to come out reborn as a new person.
Obviously this is the core of any good story, but it specifically has that psychedelic quality to it that reminds me distinctly of that one life-changing, dimension-shattering trip.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-24 03:24 [#00568638]
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hmm, i think that of any boc album
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uzim
on 2003-02-24 03:54 [#00568674]
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i still prefer geogaddi it has more variety
> omg!! °_° mhtrtc must be like the same track repeated all throughout the album then! ; )
j/k.
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-09-04 12:40 [#00849922]
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EM...er....
Why does it sound like a child is being tortured on "Dawn Chorus"? The song could be beautiful if it weren't for the sound of suffering in the background.
Maybe I'm a little sick in the head, but is that sample child voice supposed to sound happy?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-04 12:48 [#00849927]
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i know what you're saying. geogaddi deffinately starts to get edgy as the album progresses.
but god damn! i love this album.
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2003-09-04 12:51 [#00849931]
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I can see how geogaddi would sound scary, and some tracks have a very ominous feel to them (You Could Feel the Sky, in particular), and I love that about the album. It's like the Yang of MHTRTC's Yin.
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-09-04 13:06 [#00849949]
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It's scary in the same way that a toy music box can be scary. (sometimes)
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2003-09-04 14:25 [#00850049]
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Reverse 'You could feel the sky' and slow it down to 1/3 of the normal speed. Now that is fucking scary... there's all sorts of stuff hidden there, including a crackling fire and a woman screaming.
From DavidAC's page:
If you take the section of "you could feel the sky" where the reversed speech "a god with horns" occurs, and reverse it, then the reversed section of track (normal speed) contains crackling fire sounds, as though some sinister ritual is taking place. However, slow down the reversed section by a factor of 3, and new and disturbing details will become apparent. The sibilant S at end of "horns" is resolved as a woman's screams, and a tolling church bell can be heard in the background. (I tried this for myself - the results make quite disturbing listening.) BIBIO observes that the acoustics might be those of a forest.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-09-04 14:27 [#00850053]
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"Geogaddi evokes childhood" I couldn't possibly have put it better myself..
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-09-04 17:28 [#00850425]
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Interestingly enough, there are some uneasy or "scary" moments on MHTRTC, albeit, they are generally clouded my a more melodic and happy tone in the foreground. Take Turquoise Hexagon Sun for example - without the melody in the foreground, the minor key bassline is somewhat dark.
It's as if the "dark" theme was introduced in MHTRTC, but was concealed with dreamy melodies in the foreground. Geogaddi is the opposite, in that there is greater experimentation with that dark sound, but the dreamy melodies of MHTRTC are present if you listen closely.
This might explain why some people are scared by Geogaddi, and others can't understand what all the "dark" talk is about. The differences are nearly subliminal in both cases, even though the elements of both "dream" and "nightmare" are present on both albums.
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-09-04 18:14 [#00850445]
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I make no fucking sense sometimes..... :) :) :) :) :) :P
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KainiIndustries
from over the roof floats billy on 2003-09-04 18:15 [#00850447]
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I think that the dark element on Geogaddi is really subtly encoded in half-heard melodies and backwards samples and the like that are pretty submerged in the mix.
The uneasy effect is almost a subconscious thing, really, because most of the louder melodies are in a major key.
That child crying in the devil is in the details gives me chills, every time.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-04 18:41 [#00850457]
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off the top of my head, the first track on side B (sixtyten i think?), of music has the right to children, is very eerie; darkest of the album
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catharsis
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-09-04 20:13 [#00850565]
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even "an eagle in your mind" starts out with a melody that isn't too far off of being "dark".
"smokes quantity" isn't what you would call happy and dreamy either.
Geogaddi's dark elements shouldn't seem too shocking if you've heard MHTRTC. The effects are simply exaggerated.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-09-04 20:15 [#00850569]
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sAtarN ROOLZ OK?
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ThisIsntMusic
from Long Island, NY (United States) on 2003-09-04 20:50 [#00850630]
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I listend to all of Geogaddi and then killed my parents. BACKWARDS.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-09-04 20:52 [#00850634]
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oh!v my god me to.......
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-08 02:05 [#00854710]
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Agh! I just noticed some demons.
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phiz
from Liverpool (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-08 03:03 [#00854722]
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A is B as B is to C played backwards is a total freak.
anyone else been freaked by the song there.
"If you go down to the woods today" The Teddy Bears Picnic
i think they just like to play up to the whole imagethat has been created around them
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-08 04:16 [#00854743]
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I'd heard people mention the devils in the Geogaddi artwork before, but I'd never seen them.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-08 05:15 [#00854767]
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geogaddi is sinister, it freaks me out sometimes. lots of hidden evil
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-09-08 05:29 [#00854773]
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Listening to it doesn't scare me, but I certainly don't think its the best BOC cd there is.
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k_maty
on 2003-10-02 17:42 [#00887421]
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im scared now
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k_maty
on 2003-10-02 17:47 [#00887425]
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the first boc song i heard was everything you do is a ballon and the first images to pop in my head were the most innocent times as a kid
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-10-02 17:55 [#00887431]
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People need to consider that BoC have said in interviews that some of the stuff they put in is a bit of a private joke. You shouldn't be put off the music by the dark undertones.
Also, while I have noticed the dark undertones to Geogaddi, give it a listen on a country drive on a warm summers day and see it in a totally different light.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-02 19:45 [#00887524]
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The intricacy and undertones are what make it good. Otherwise it would be pretty dull...
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-10-02 20:02 [#00887532]
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i fucking love geogaddi, more that mhtrtc actually, something about 1969 and gyroscope and ready lets go is just like...... gwaaaaaaaa.......
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-10-02 20:15 [#00887539]
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those are my favorite tracks too. i first heard the album driving home at 3am; the streets are empty that time of night in eugene, it was great.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-10-02 20:18 [#00887543]
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Geogaddi never fails to amaze me, there is so much there i don't think i have ever heard anything as compelling, beautiful and emotional, it is at present one of my favorite albums.
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2003-10-02 20:54 [#00887564]
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you could feel the sky is very intriguing.
opening the mouth i find to be very unsettling.
agreed
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berestez
from Finland on 2003-10-03 01:47 [#00887688]
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i think geogaddi is like you're inside a bubble thats surrounded by evil things, but your safe inside there.. it's very twisted album. so i think it's not scary? i just love that album.
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-10-03 03:12 [#00887729]
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geogaddi is fucking brilliant, but it really does scare the shit out of me sometimes
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nacmat
on 2003-10-03 03:50 [#00887758]
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I love it but it doesnt scare me at all
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-10-03 03:52 [#00887760]
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same for me.. its better than mhtrtc imo, but it doesnt scare me really
its creepy to play it backwards on your pc tho
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