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okay, the topic name is maybe a bit heavy, but listening to it a couple of times, and listening to confield, it seems like it's just a continuation of the last lp. sure, a few songs don't fit, but after some changes, we they could make a second cd for confield |
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what do you mean "continuation"? i haven't had the pleasure of draft yet, but i've heard a 2 min snippet of 6ie.cr and it didn't sound at all like it was made around the same time as confield... neither did gantz graf. |
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6ie.:cr is one of the NEW songs, cmopletely different. continuation i mean that it's very similar to confield |
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continuation of Confield? YES!!! my happy now |
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er..whats your point?? |
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that draft 7.30 is a continuation of confield. isn't that clear? |
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and obvious?..so obvious that this discussion isn't needed? |
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Congrats on your Draft 7.30 thread. |
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komakino: with 59 points i see that you are new here and you don't know what this mb is about. sit back and stay a while and you will be REALLY think what stupid topics appear on here. |
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this is my 3 (i think) draft thread, so i got a hattrick |
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its not stupid, just un-necassary. oh and thank you for the obligatory speech on your apparant hiarachy - feel free to fuck off. |
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the next thing why i see that you're new. why do you get upset so fast ? cause i said that you are new ? come on, i don't want to start a fight with someone i know since 5 minutes. i don't think the "fuck off" is necessary. if this thread will evolve like this it will soon be closed. |
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sorry, but im not upset. |
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you aren't upset telling someone "fuck off" ? okay, peace ! i think this is the begining of a wonderful friendship. maybe someone else has something to say to my thread ? |
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Yeah, it's basically another Confield to me... no more or less accessible, no more or less abstract... if you love Confield, you'll love this. Not as good though... but still a 5 star album. Other than maybe Surripere (at least the first bit) and Reniform Puls, it sounds like Confield 2 to me. I fucking love it. |
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that's the point. otherwise, if you don't like confield you don't like draft. i think every autechre album was other. but every one was autechre. but this time it's similar to another lp. are they getting old ? |
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...i know people who like confield and not draft. vice versa. varied opinions strike again. and personally, i think it sounds completely different. i get completely different vibes from both albums. i cannot compare them really. but, whatever works for ye |
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I agree that Draft is most similar to Confield (hardly surprising) but I disagree that you either like both or neither. I found Confield (and this is just my opinion) to be a little too sparse and precise, all angular spikes and pristine clicks, and with very complex and subtle rhythms, so subtle that you definitely need a discerning ear (or at least more than a casual listen) to hear anything to get hold of. Draft has the same feel to the sounds, but assembled in a completely different way so it gives it a different feel. I suppose you might even call it a remix of Confield. But I find it much more immediate. I love Confield now, but I didn't immediately, and it's a CD for occasions. I can see myself putting Draft on more frequently. It's funky baby! |
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it sounds like draft 7.30 to me. i dont get these confield connections. oh well |
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Yeah, you see major progression with all the rest of their albums, and now... this isn't a step forward AT ALL. Not a regression or anything, but they're obviously not doing anything they didn't do on Confield. For the first time there's no real innovation on an Autechre album. At least to my ears. I think Confield was more intense beat and rhythm wise, and I think Eidetic Casein has more going for it melodically than anything on Draft. |
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in the realm that is my opinion, you should not judge negatively the following: a) songs recorded from cassette tape b) songs encoded at shitty 128kbps mp3s c) a + b just my 2 cents!!! |
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The difference between MP3s and the real thing is pretty negligible... you're already hearing 99.8% of the sounds. I doubt that .2 percent is going to change my opinion. The sound quality will go up a marginal amount but the tracks won't. |
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Sorry to keep banging on about this :D but there is a definite difference between mp3 and the real thing, even if the real thing in this case is a cassette. I have the cassette and I downloaded one of the brisk/elusive mp3s to compare and there's a world of difference. < /8 millionth 'low-bitrate-mp3s-are-crap' rant > |
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Well yeah, it's lo-fi and I'd love to hear it 100% sparkly clear, but I had the RDJ Album in 128 bit form for a couple months and then got the album and it's not like there was some big epiphany or anything. It wasn't any better of an album and Draft SURELY isn't going to pass Confield just by a little sound quality increase. Melodies and beats aren't going to change. It's nice, but I mean... I'm no audiophile. Maybe I just need to get my ears cleaned and rinsed out. ;-) I AM getting mild tinnitus... |
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i have the mp3 at 192, the original one, and i can say, it's pretty crap quality. my point is, take for example parheric triangle on confield, it wouldn't have nearby the same effect if played on a cassette than on cd. you need to hear all the small details to the sounds, and all the small sounds you might not hear on cassette. When you hear it as clear as glass on cd i think draft is gonna come off alot more complex rhythmically and timbrewise. i think this is important. and also, about innovation. i don't think they're getting old, look at gantz graf, they're capable of some out of this earth shit if they want to. but my point is, instead of sitting there listening to draft thinking 'i wish they would do something different', just enjoy what they've done and block out all those thoughts. |
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the diff between these mp3's and the real CD is going to be extremely tellable but you're right, it is an "audiophile" issue |
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i shit-a-brick when i compared the original leaked MP3's of gantz graf to the final mastered CD it was _SHIT_ |
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Unless these MP3s have somehow filtered out some wicked melody or kickass beat, a better sounding timbre or drone or hi-hat sound isn't going to make my opinion on this album raise by anything more than a smidgen... just raise the aesthetics. I'm taking into consideration the muddled sound and I know it'll sound like a million bucks on disc, but I'm also taking into consideration the fact that they're not playing anything that I haven't heard before. The beats are Confieldish and the melodies are nothing too fantastic. But I don't even know why I'm droning on, I love it even on 128k! *snuggles up to Draft 7.30. |
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your subconscious will appreciate the mastered cd much more im sure!! |
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yeah that's great ophecks. right up until i read your post i loved draft too. now i'm starting to have doubts. |
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Come again? |
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nothing .. |
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Ok. And sorry about spoiling Draft for you, by the way. |
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Draft 7.30 is the sequel of Peel Sessions 2. Listen closely, you'll get what I mean. A more hoppy poppy mood (compared to Conf), spatial effects never appearing anywhere else (like last 1/3 of Gelk), 'chewed digital' beat. |
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impressive that we have the same exactly the same statement. i don't know what i expected from draft... just thought it would be..... new |
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draft a continuation from confield? well, it IS the follow up isn't it? |
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so much talk on draft 7.30 has me at the verge of a nervous breakdown (almodovar) as I havent downladed it and I want it so much to be in the stores to listen to it |
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it bears more resemblance to confield than gantz graf if that's what you're trying to say |
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if confield was along their "main road", gantz graf could be seen as a turn into a cul-de-sac... which makes draft a definate re-emergance onto that main stretch. |
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yeah, that's exactly what I am thinking right now |
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