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Anus_Presley
on 2003-02-21 08:19 [#00564553]
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bleak.
"Humm wherre else can we go, what new grround can we brreak", seems to be the main motivation.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-02-21 08:21 [#00564560]
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hasn't that always been the main motivation of idm-artists? I believe the philosophy of Warp was always to release music that was "different".... they worked that way 10 years ago, and they still do today.
And so far the recent idm-releases i've heard haven't been dissapointing to me...
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-21 08:23 [#00564566]
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I say its gonna get big,and quite frankly I don't wan't that.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-02-21 08:37 [#00564600]
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I want controversy.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-21 08:39 [#00564606]
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I think actually noone thinks in terms "how can we innovate, or break new ground" - most people just want to evolve within their own musicmaking.. or just make stuff that is better than the last stuff, which mostly involves evolving in some way or other..
worrying about "the future" of any genre is pretty pointless, imo.
something new will come along.
we'll see.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-02-21 08:39 [#00564608]
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lets hope it isnt going mainstream
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-21 08:39 [#00564610]
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The future of IDM is Kcinsu!!!
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-02-21 08:41 [#00564613]
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but what if all the grroud has been coverred, wherre next? this so called white noise bullshit.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-21 08:41 [#00564614]
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oh YOU!!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-21 08:41 [#00564615]
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me.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-21 08:43 [#00564622]
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Fuck noise.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-02-21 08:44 [#00564624]
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idm will go around in circles and not much will change
isnt that the case with EVERY genre?
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-02-21 08:45 [#00564627]
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i cant believe saw1 was produced 1985-1992, it still sounds like the future of music 12 years later
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-02-21 08:45 [#00564629]
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"but what if all the grroud has been coverred, wherre next?"
i do not think that will ever happen. The possibilities for making music are litterally endless.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-21 08:47 [#00564634]
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Music always goes in circles--it eats up its past to create its future. Just like me.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-02-21 08:50 [#00564640]
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but arrtists arre trrying to do it within the same boundarries, its not new grround its old grround rre-hashed. i mean no matterr what anyone one does with an acoustic guitarr it will not have been done beforre, then comes the electrric guitarr and effects pedels, then came keyboarrds, then came computerr music, maybe we need someone to come and do something totally differrent on a computerr, like the leap frrom acoutic to electrric, no doubt it will happen, so maybe the futurre aint bleak.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-02-21 08:50 [#00564642]
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that's true. But still there always seem to appear new artists and albums that find there own interpretation of the past to create something beautiful again.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-02-21 08:51 [#00564644]
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will have been done beforre ***
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-02-21 08:51 [#00564645]
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just like the langlears...yanno, that stephen king book?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-21 08:51 [#00564646]
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"it eats up its past to create its future. Just like me."
paste. you mean: paste. you eat up your paste, to create furniture.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-21 08:51 [#00564648]
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who cares what a silly question - hopefully it'll shift outwards like the dj scud and bug releases dueon hte rephlex board - bacome more open minded an expansive - not dulll
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-21 08:52 [#00564650]
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The Langoliers--a great film to watch if you're heavily stoned :)
you cut up the paste to create your loop
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-21 08:52 [#00564652]
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i mean rephlex site - they don't have a board
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-02-21 08:53 [#00564655]
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I can't imagine where IDM can go after Confield, seriously... Draft isn't a step forward AT ALL, and nobody else is doing anything that's as radical and listenable as that one... Squarepusher hit a creative brick wall, Geogaddi didn't seem to be as well received as MHTRTC... IDM seems to have stagnated, all the big guns aren't doing anything revolutionary.
I really want to hear Mike P's new one...
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-02-21 08:54 [#00564663]
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Ophecks sees it...
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-02-21 08:55 [#00564665]
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i want to hear afx's new stuff
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-21 08:55 [#00564668]
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music goes round in circles but the diameter increases
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-21 08:56 [#00564669]
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yeah confield is as far up a musicians anus i ever want to go!
thing is it's been done before by 20th century composers like parmegiani xenaxiss francois bayle delai derbyshire , stockhausen, phil niblock etc - autechre have just put theiir own twist on it
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-02-21 08:58 [#00564672]
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My views on IDM arre backwarrd to most people's, not all peoples.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-21 09:06 [#00564690]
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The future of IDM is that it will keep evolving in ways nobody can predict. Sorted.
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rchrddvdjms
from pellentrix (Papua new Guinea) on 2003-02-21 09:15 [#00564701]
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yeah kcinsu is the master of all, lol
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rchrddvdjms
from pellentrix (Papua new Guinea) on 2003-02-21 09:16 [#00564705]
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IDM stinks basically, all the good "drill and bass" was done 8 years ago
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-21 09:36 [#00564731]
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idm isn't separate fromt the rest of music. all of it will continue to influence eachother and there will always be more inspired music as well as plenty of uninspired music.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-21 09:38 [#00564735]
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i'm hella sick of hearing you talk about rephlex
i mean really now. no shame.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-21 09:42 [#00564740]
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huh? directed at who ? wrong thread maybe?
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-21 09:46 [#00564748]
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maybe you hear influences in ae, but none of those artists you mention did what confield is. everybody draws on what came before.
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Kill Switch
from Belgium on 2003-02-21 09:49 [#00564756]
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I want an early to mid 90ties revival.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-21 09:51 [#00564761]
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Id love for that to be true
then id laugh in your face
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-21 09:51 [#00564763]
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thank god i don't limit my desires to 'idm'. there's so much incredible music coming from every direction and you guys are worried?
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-21 09:51 [#00564764]
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no of course they didn't but it isn't as far or remarkable as anyone makes out - it's just working along a seam of music that hasn't had any mainstream attention. of course it's an original piece of work and soe of it is good - just be aware that there is a canon of history behind it and people have been making sophisticatred abstracted electronic music for the past 100 or so years
http://csunix1.lvc.edu/~snyder/em/time.html
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-21 09:51 [#00564765]
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That's because you're not a petty person.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-21 09:53 [#00564768]
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indeed - idm is rather boring - even the name suggests stagnancy and a reactionary view
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-21 09:54 [#00564771]
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well, i could agree with every you just said except that "it isn't as far or remarkable
as anyone makes out." i'm not sure that's an objective thing, remarkability.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-21 09:56 [#00564774]
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yeah. and the good music that does come out of this realm will insire/influence more music. nothing goes to waste.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-21 09:57 [#00564776]
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can you just drop it?
for the love of god.
its been like 8 months since this shit started.
Im asking you nicely, here. Just get over it.
Whatever grudge you have... keep it to yourself. I, and I think many others are tired of your constant insistance to bring this matter up time and time again.
Marlowe hates zeus. Zeus hates marlowe. Lets try to grow up and leave it at that eh?
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-21 09:59 [#00564778]
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=O
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-21 09:59 [#00564780]
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What the hell are you talking about? You take yourself so seriously it's unreal.
I would love to continue this charming talk but I'm off home.
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-21 10:00 [#00564781]
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well if you'd heard ferrari , babbit, cage, stockhausen , xenassi, schaeffer, parmageani , varese. oliveros , stockhausen etc - it sounds like a commercial attmpt to fuse academic music with post techno music ..
nothing special really - sorry
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-21 10:01 [#00564784]
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please no no no yes grow grow quickly and out of my view :(
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-21 10:02 [#00564785]
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dude
I just get tired of you poking fun at me all the time.
Seriously, or jokingly.
And seeing the past experiances we have, I find it hard to take that its all in good fun.
Anyone else could say that, and id laugh, cause I know they are just messing around.
But you seem to do it in such pure spite.
And yes, I do take it seriously, because after 8 months of taunting, its no longer funny. Not that it even was to begin with.
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