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Has anyone else noticed how everytime Autechre release an album they make their previous release (one that was most likley recieved as 'difficult' or 'hard listening' etc etc) seem like a collection of nursery rhymes or similar accessible 'tunes'. Maybe I'm being daft but Confield certainly seemed to do that to LP5 and I think Draft7.30 will do the same to Confield (although I don't think the jump from Confield to Draft7.30 is a significant as the jump from LP5 to Confield) thoughts? |
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its called uping the ante....... my uncle told me |
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i dunno about that. I've only recently gotten into autechre and bought all their work within a short period of time. I can see how the albums become more and more complex and organic over time... But i think i'll only really be able to agree or disagree with you if the album after Draft 7:30, makes that one seem like a nursery rhyme ;-) (draft'll be the first one i'll buy upon release). Anyway, i just wanted to join in on this thread to say i like your avatar :-) |
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yes... the follow up to draft7.30 will be interesting. The soundworld (of what I'v heard) of Draft7.30 is very similar to that of Confield... Draft7.30 seems a lot more sequenced, like they've been a great deal meticulous in how they've constructed the tracks. The harmony is a lot more interesting certainly... it probably doesn't make confield as easy a ride as I said intially but I still think that Confield makes LP5 sound like a pop release. |
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that's a really interesting and valid point. I agree, when you take something to a new level the latter seems to be much less than you originally thought it was, (or to quote tool) "everytime someone pushes the boundary of human acheivment the entire race evolves" |
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"Confield makes LP5 sound like a pop release." okay i've thought about it some more, and actually i disagree with that statement (but please bear in mind confield is the most recent of their albums i bought, and i haven't listened to it nearly enough times... so i might be completely wrong here). I can see a very clear line throughout tri repetae/chiastic slide/lp5... and i think for those albums your post does apply. Each of those takes ideas from the previous albums, and takes those ideas a step further. But i don't hear any similarities between lp5 and confield. I can't say they took ideas from lp5 and evolved from there on. To me confield sounds more like they wanted to do something completely different this time. Like a fresh new start. But again... i am not really able to make such judgements yet... maybe in a few months time i will begin to understand confield better. (i really do like it, but it just doesn't seem to have a connection with any other autechre-release). |
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well yes. It's true. Confield is totally different line for Autechre. That's what I was saying though when I said the jump from LP5 to Confield is more significant than from Confield to Draft7.30 (though I haven't heard it all yet). Confield is a whole new soundworld for Ae. rhythmically, harmonically blah blah etc it's more advanced (what a horrible way to put it, sorry - hopefully you see what I mean) than their previous albums. Listening to Incunabula and then Confield... they could be by different artists. Sure obivously you expect an artists to evolve but like Surrounded said - there isn't an obvious link between LP5 and Confield. LP5 was one of the first few 'braindance/IDM/whatever' releases I listened to... and I struggled for a while. I listened to Confield and LP5 suddenly became accessible. I took to Confield straight away without any difficulty really (mainly thanks to Bine -an awesome track) but it changed my view of LP5 a lot.... eurgh maybe I'm waffling but I think that when an artist sets a new precedent it affects their previous work (to an extent). |
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(not rreally rrelated but...) i'm not into this NEED forr technical prrogrression, because with it, frrom my point of view, the songs arre getting worrse. I had ICBYD on last night, and i thought to myself WOW this is what I got into IDM forr. I love the olderr stuff out therre so much morre. |
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"Confield is a whole new soundworld for Ae." That's my point... sort of. ;-) Since it's something completely different, i'm having difficulties looking at it as "a step forward". They could have released Confield first and then followed it up with LP5. And it wouldn't seem weird (at least not to me). On the other hand, they could have never released LP5 first, and then followed it up with Chiastic Slide. That would definitly have been a step backwards. But i just sort of feel like they thought LP5 was as far as they could go with that style, and after that thought it was time to do someting new. If anything, i look at confield as "a step sideways" ;-) |
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well fair enough... I think there is some of LP5 in Confield. Confield is a lot denser but there are distinct 'ae moments' on both. Cfern could almost fit on LP5.... in an odd sort of way.... possibly.... |
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