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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-19 12:26 [#00561631]
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Hey everyone--I have a bit of a problem. Spookyluke has fallen into this deep depression because he wants to be a director and he doesnt think he can achieve this goal. He doesnt know how to go about doing this, and he knows that he doesnt want to go into theater.
This is ALL he wants to do--he says there is "no other option" for him.
Does anyone have any advice for him? Its our 13 month anniversary and I just want to make him happy but he wont listen. :(
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-19 12:28 [#00561634]
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hmm, film direction school?
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nacmat
on 2003-02-19 12:30 [#00561638]
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tell him that one always must follow his dreams, but for that he must try as hard as he can... so he has to stop feeling depressed and start working hard.
there are direction schools and all that
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-02-19 12:30 [#00561639]
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Are you guys in college or just high school? Like Tolstoyed said, there's schools dedicated to that stuff, he should look them up.
And in light of his depression, I've dug deep into my magical hard drive picture collection for the cheesiest, cutest picture I have.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-02-19 12:32 [#00561644]
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
(I had a nightmare last night which involved getting attacked by swarms of insane cats)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-19 12:39 [#00561658]
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We are both seniors in highschool. He has had no experience directing and no experience has little experience with video cameras (he does, however, have some cartoons that he made in flash) and needs all of the financial help he can get. So he doesnt think he can go to a fil direction school--too expensive; none in Ohio.
He is also rambling on about how hes going to waste away and die and college is a scam and all of this other crap. The thing is, he WONT try! I had to get an appliucation from the guidance office for wright state because he was yelling about how, "ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO APPLY FOR COLLEGE! IT CANNOT BE DONE!"
Im so sick of him. I just want him to use his head. And maybe some happiness on the side would be nice.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-02-19 12:44 [#00561661]
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sounds like luke needs to pull his head out of his ass and learn that it takes hard work to become what you want... , "ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO APPLY FOR COLLEGE! IT CANNOT
BE DONE!"
Is he fuckin serious? What a lazy ass!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-02-19 12:51 [#00561665]
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''He is also rambling on about how hes going to waste away and die and college is a scam and all of this other crap''
I can't help then, because I'm in the same boat. Except I'm IN college because I feel I NEED to be, not because I want to be. It sucks and I'll get kicked out if I'm not careful. I have no idea what I'm doing or why I'm doing it.
Tell him he'd better expand his horizons then. What else is he into?
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2003-02-19 12:59 [#00561674]
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that depression stuff is bs. just go ahead and do it.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-02-19 13:00 [#00561679]
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but him some charlie, he'll feel better then
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-02-19 13:15 [#00561708]
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Half a ton of charlie?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-02-19 13:30 [#00561737]
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Just buy yourselv a cheap camera, and make your own flick. Start writing screenplays etc. Get in contact with production comapnies, its not really that hard.
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elusive
from detroit (United States) on 2003-02-19 13:38 [#00561754]
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tell him life isn't meant for everyone.
THE RESTROOM IS A PRIVLEDGE, NOT A RIGHT, JERRY.
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-19 13:41 [#00561763]
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Corngrower--be nice! I love him! Hes just angry and stubborn, thats all. :(
Ophecks--He says that all he wants to do is direct, BUT he and I both know that he is also a very talented writer and is very talented with things like Flash animations, photoshop, graphics, web design, ect.
He just says that he doest want to do those things for the rest of his life. What do I say to that?
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-19 13:58 [#00561805]
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This is just a bump, and me begging for advice!
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-02-19 14:02 [#00561815]
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This is a tough situation... I seriously can't think of anything you can tell him that will change his mind... maybe take a year off after graduation to figure things out? He's got time. My uncle took a year off to travel, he had no idea what he wanted to do, and he found his way...
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afxNUMB
from So.Flo on 2003-02-19 14:06 [#00561823]
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ENOUGH! ENOUGH!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-19 14:08 [#00561831]
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mm his problem sounds a bit childish to me - I'm not trying to be mean though. and although what corngrower says sounds coarse maybe, it is the truth.
is this just something he has thought up recently..? or is it something he REALLY wants to do..? if so, he'd better start working. simple start is to make a few short films with a cheap camera - just try out some stuff. maybe write a few short screenplays. in short, he has to explore his talents.
and what Nacmat says, about following your dreams is a bit romantic. lots of people turn out very unhappy because they have an impossible dream they can NEVER reach. sometimes its better to drop it and go for something else. therefore, its a good idea to find out what your strengths are, what you can do with your life that you are any good at AND like to do. all pretty hard, but thats growing up for ya.. :P
I mean, just lying around moaning won't help him get anywhere (well DUH..!).
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-19 14:10 [#00561836]
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film school!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-19 14:14 [#00561849]
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a good option yes, but don't go auditioning for filmschool willy-nilly.. find out if you really like to make film, to spend the next few years ALWAYS on film, if you'll be motivated enough to do the course.
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-19 14:55 [#00561967]
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Thanks, everyone! And quter, what you say is very true. Hes in a bit of a better mood, but he says he has "no capital" to do some short films. He doesnt even have a good computer.
Hes wanted to do this since eighth grade. :) He wanted to be a comic book artist originally. He considers them pretty much the same thing.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-19 14:57 [#00561973]
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you don't need lots of money or good equipment to start out with. he's missing the point if thats what he thinks.
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-19 15:28 [#00562052]
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He says, "You need equiptment. What else do you need?" :)
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-19 15:31 [#00562058]
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you can use the dumbest of camera's as a startingpoint. what he really needs is an idea what he wants to film. much more important.
if you have nothing you want to film, why start filming?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-19 15:32 [#00562061]
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a heart of gold!
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-19 15:33 [#00562065]
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If he's not achieveing his ambition he shouldn't get depessed, tell him to get angry and channel that anger into postive activities. Don't spend time moping about, do something related to the ambition.
He could write screenplays, read theory, beg or boroow use of a camera and churn out shorts, do whole storyboards of movies, join local film appreciation groups, any little thing at all.
The most important thing is not to waste time. It all adds up.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-19 15:35 [#00562069]
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oh, and another thing, get a camera that will do 'widescreen' pics, this will help develop your skill at framing a shot, assessing lighting impact and other things.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-19 15:37 [#00562075]
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first and simplest thing he could do is watch a lot of films and think in depth about what attracts him in them and what he doesn't like etc.
reading screenplays and THEN watching the films is also good.
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-19 15:45 [#00562089]
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Thanks everyone! Luke would thank you too if he werent so stubborn!
Danbrusca, are you into directing? You sound like youve been through this before!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-19 15:45 [#00562090]
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Scorsese got started by drawing storyboards when he was ill as a child. You don't need anything to do anything. As Jonathan Richman put it, we need to learn to play music with nothing, with our instruments broken and it's raining. Some of the great Missisippi delta blues musicians had to string their guitars with wire off the screen door. Then they had the flyblown dinner blues.
But I know how he feels - I get dramatically emotional when I don't have time to practice music an shit. It blows over. If he's depressed enough, anything you say to cheer him up will be twisted and used against you, so just listen and nod and be there when he reaches out for a hug.
Also, get him on here so we can tease him mercilessly. >;-)
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-02-19 15:47 [#00562093]
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skip film school, start making and writing movies, and move to LA, where, within twelve months, he'll either be directing XXX part four or on the street homeless and half dead.
GOOD LUCK!
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-19 20:53 [#00562348]
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Thanks, folks! I snapped out of it. Lindsey is the master of cheering me up, but your advice helped, too. I get discouraged inbetween bouts of extreme fucking confidence. :) So I'm back to normal; casual ranting about Gantz Graf and aimless rambling about why I don't get excited by old boards of canada. :)
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optimus prime
on 2003-02-19 20:56 [#00562359]
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that'd be funnier if the small cat was smoking a cigarrette.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-19 21:00 [#00562366]
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Here's a picture of me with a lot of cigarettes in my mouth: http://maytag87.dyndns.org:8081/wish/feature_eighteenthbi... :D
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optimus prime
on 2003-02-19 21:02 [#00562370]
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and you walk around like that?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-19 21:03 [#00562371]
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that shits bad for you
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dmise
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-02-19 21:40 [#00562394]
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It doesn't really cost that much to make shorts. There are a lot of people out there who are willing to work for free as cast and crew. Find a film related internet board for your area and you'll be able to get people in no time. Hire the equipment. Technology changes so quickly that nobody buys equipment it's all hired. Shoot digital so that you can cut down on post production costs. I'm sure you'll have friends with good enough computers to edit your film on or there should be community based tv stations that will provide you with use of their facilities. Good luck.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-19 21:45 [#00562395]
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I don't really smoke--it was all a big joke. :)
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-02-19 21:50 [#00562397]
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luke is spooky
nice shirt
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-19 22:08 [#00562404]
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dude, don't think so much about it, just do it. pick up a camera and get the show on the road.
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