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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-02-17 11:54 [#00558467]
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to me, Optical is the Aphex Twin of drum&bass. almost every track he makes blows my mind. it's the structure, the atmoshpere, his unique creation and use of surreal, sick (rather than dark) synth/bass/soundfx were his genius lies. and his co-producer ed rush expands this sound to a even greater level.
Some of his highlight that i recommend u download:
ed rush & optical:
fixation [phatest ripping bass you'll ever hear] medicine the shining (ed rush & optical remix) [original tune by optical]
bacteria alien girl sick note lifecycle the creeps
optical:
to shape the future to shape the future (remix) the end (part 1) [nice drum programming]
the full length albums he's put out (never solo):
ed rush & optical: wormhole [classic. warning, should be considered a drug and banned :)]
ed rush & optical: the creeps
he also produced grooverider's album mysteries of funk. It's really optical's album in many ppls opinion. his style is so recognizable in all of the songs.
to shape the future (on metalheadz platinium breakz II) ed rush & optical: Wormhole album
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-17 12:17 [#00558492]
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Don't forget LTJ Bukem.....
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-17 12:28 [#00558507]
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i'm still looking for wormhole :( is creeps as good as wormhole?
i also like krust and dillinja (although dillinja isn't very consistant)
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-17 12:39 [#00558526]
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yeah i've got it - i saw it here on www.juno.co.uk new for about £16
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-17 12:40 [#00558527]
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dillinja's wicked i reckon
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-17 12:47 [#00558538]
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i saw it on juno too, but vinyl only. i've just ordered it from a new zealand company for £18 inc shipping... hope it's worth it!
i like most stuff on full cycle, v recordings and dope dragon
i've also heard some good stuff by dj trace
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-17 12:48 [#00558539]
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here you go ED RUSH & OPTICAL: Wormhole (full track listing) (Virus) - Drum & Bass
5xLP: (VRS 001LP) [18.99] - add
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-17 12:49 [#00558541]
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yeah trace is good look out for remarc and kemet crew records as well - really good some of them - also congo natty but vinyl only i think
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-17 12:51 [#00558545]
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i got plat. breakz ][ a hellof a long time ago
i like the digital track... or maybe it's metro
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-02-17 12:56 [#00558555]
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don't forget ram records, moving shadow. dom & roland has some killer tracks. i recommend his 'industry' album
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-02-17 12:56 [#00558556]
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yeah matrix's label metro is good too
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revpersona
from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-02-17 15:27 [#00558761]
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Optical is pretty good, I'm a sucker for dark dnb. Although, I prefer Photek's earlier work.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2003-06-10 13:39 [#00735194]
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best ever optical 12" has to be prototype no.9. PRO 009 - 'High Tek Dreams' and 'Moving 808s'.....did anyone listen to the optical and edrush mix on the breezeblock lastnight? click here for realaudio stream (you may need to select open with realplayer). what do you lot think to the new album by edrush+optical called the original doctor shade? ive heard a few of tracks, a couple sound great, but some seem a bit like every other dnb song.
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2003-06-10 13:46 [#00735205]
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er whoops. with the link, you need to do 'save target as' then load it, or alternativly when the error page comes up, then paste the url as the address so you access it from within the bbc domain et voila. oh and fast forward about 40-45 mins.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-10 13:49 [#00735213]
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that's what i'm dissapointed about with this new LP. Their new stuff just sounds "avarage" and that saddens me. It's not bad, but it just isn't the sick and raw Ed Rush & Optical anymore :(
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2003-06-10 13:54 [#00735230]
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im really beginning to dislike drum n bass, all the innovation of the 90s has evaporated. although I have to admit that the John Rolodex Soldiers EP is amazing and it has encouraged me not to give up on the scene...although it is getting increasingly 'poppy' and all the dard stuff has gone, now its all made in REASON by kids in bedrooms who have never heard of a SH101, and it shows!
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-10 13:54 [#00735231]
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i still can't find wormhole on CD :( someone help please!
that place i ordered it from in feb still haven't replied to my emails!
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-06-10 14:16 [#00735257]
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photek will always be number 1
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kluizenaar
from Netherlands Antilles on 2003-06-10 14:19 [#00735260]
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last time I listened to some "d&b" I thought I was listening to bloody trance,..recommend me some serious shit ,.with intriqate drumprogramming,.not the monotome "boom ... kash .. bom . kash for like 4367962825689 minutes
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-10 14:20 [#00735264]
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photek was really good. solaris was a big letdown. Let's hope he can bring out another d'n'b classic
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-10 14:24 [#00735272]
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since this is a optical thread....
optical - the end part 1 has a real cool drum programming
Jagged Edge (optical & ryme tyme) - Rock Baby
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2003-06-10 14:27 [#00735277]
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here
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-10 14:28 [#00735278]
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damn it! was wormhole not released on cd in the uk or something?!
NOWHERE has it :((((((((((((((
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-06-10 14:30 [#00735283]
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I was dead pissed off I missed them weekend before last. Jazzy Jeff and Photek wee playing too. :(
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-10 14:32 [#00735285]
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wormhole is a product of UK, so it should be easy finding it there. Have you checked ALL your local record shops?
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-10 17:42 [#00735475]
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I have Wormhole on CD, I bought it the day it came out... I shouldn't have bothered...none of their album have matched the 12" they release. Sort of like a collection of the shit they thought would damage their reputation if they released as 12's.
The Creeps was pretty fucking shit too.
My favourite drum and bass albums where Dom & Roland - Industry and an album called Champion Jungle Sound by Kemet Crew. I have also gone of drum and bass...it lost it's energy a long time ago and fell into the shit two step boring as fuck beat. I have a CD by Back 2 Basics (Dred Bass, JB etc.) where the only way you can tell what track you have started is by the pitch of the two step beat. I mean they even remixed the classic Dred Dred track into a two step mess.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-10 17:59 [#00735492]
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you speak nonsense about wormhole. How could it damage their reputation if the tracks were released as a few 12"s?? it's their best work to date
ps: Industry is one of my favourite d'n'b albums
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-06-10 18:09 [#00735502]
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If you like dark jungle, you should download my song TWINKLE MONSTER... I think you'll enjoy it. hehe....
Oddioblender - Twinkle Monster - Track2, BARON VON UGLY a...
I saw Craze spinning some nice dark jungle at Zenfest II here in Texas back in September, he did a fantastic job, and saw the Jungle Brothers too, they were alright.
you're probably all going to hate me for this, but I saw Aphrodite at Trees in Dallas on his urban junglist tour -- it was my best friend's birhtday -- he was dj'ing, and it was decent, but he STOPPED the record four times during his set -- no noise, just stopped it. I didn't know whether to laugh because it was funny that he didn't give a shit, or be angry because he was being a bit crude, then again, I'm not a DJ, so i shouldn't talk.
I have some dark dnb in my vinyl collection, unknowners from Advisory, P.S.I., etc.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-06-10 18:36 [#00735524]
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OMG TEH WORMHOLE!!!!
TEH PWNSXX0R!!!
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-10 18:39 [#00735526]
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because compared to their 12" output of the time Wormhole was really bland. You don't need to agree with my point of view, but when it comes to drum and bass I was listening to it from the start.
I used to spend every penny of my hard earned cash on music and I often felt ripped off by releases that didn't come up to the standard I knew the artists where capable of. Go Plastic for me was also an average album even though I see people here raving about it.
I dunno if sometimes I expect just too much :P
Another drum and bass album I really liked was Torque from No U Turn, with Ed Rush, Nico, Trace...you know you are on to a winner...that album had loads of classic tracks :P
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japes
from Suriname on 2003-06-10 18:42 [#00735527]
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Platinum Breakz II is, in my view, the best Metalheadz compilation. The Raven by Ed Rush is so fucking tense it's untrue and as Roygbivcore said, Metro by Digital's really cool and extremely progressive for drum'n'bass. Not at all dancefloor friendly, which is refreshing.
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2003-06-10 21:45 [#00735750]
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hey alberto, is wormhole a 2-cd release?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-10 21:48 [#00735754]
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so should i go see him? him and ed rush are going to be here this weekend i think
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-10 21:53 [#00735756]
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yeah 2 cds. the second is a wicked mix cd with these 5 extra tracks:
void grow bag medicine (matrix remix) crisis lifespan
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blobula
from BElgraDe on 2003-06-10 22:13 [#00735773]
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i'm gonna do an interview with ed rush & optical this summer so if you have some cool question : )))
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blobula
from BElgraDe on 2003-06-10 22:22 [#00735777]
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and if anyone needs some of their albums, i have all 3 (incl the new one original doctor shade) available for burning trade
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-06-10 22:54 [#00735801]
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PS we met Dom + Rowland, fucking sad sack.
What a wanker.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-11 15:54 [#00736867]
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so i'll be looking out for:
No U Turn - Torque (with Ed Rush, Nico, Trace)
Dom & Roland - Industry
ps anyone if you see wormhole on cd please buy it and i will send you the money. seriously.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-11 15:57 [#00736869]
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you can order it online
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-06-11 16:26 [#00736902]
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fine then i wont see them
geezus
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-06-11 16:32 [#00736910]
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you would be foolish not to go see them!
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childkiller
from santiago (Chile) on 2003-06-11 23:41 [#00737261]
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i have not yet heard this release, but technical itch is probably THE king of drum n bass and hardcore jungle.
hey alberto, if you ever need it, i got a tech itch records promo ep from 2002 that`ll blow yer ears away. ask me for it on slsk (same user name).
☻_☻
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2004-07-10 08:39 [#01272401]
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So is anyone still into drum n bass? And mr. optical. any news about him. its been quiet on the vinyl front for a long while now.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2004-07-10 09:09 [#01272421]
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Most DnB nowadays is boring, and I blame Optical & Ed Rush.........
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2004-07-10 09:27 [#01272430]
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very true about it being boring. but if you dig, there are some cracking tracks out there. you just have to look.
I think it is unfair to blame edrush and optical though. I would say the blame lies with dillinger and people like that much more, but ultimately with the artists who make the crap music.
Perhaps you havent heard the new dom and roland stuff on moving shadow. or any new tech itch stuff. There is good stuff out there still, and I beleive that there could be more of a drill type sound coming too, but not drill, more of a drill influence, as well as more neurofunk style stuff.
i think there will definately be more of an 'aphex' glitch sort of drum programming style emerging. who knows but there are good songs out there! for sure!
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kurrrak
from Bialystok (Poland) on 2004-07-10 09:29 [#01272432]
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PHOTEK owns optical
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-07-10 09:32 [#01272436]
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i bet there would be no konflict if there wasn't ed rush & optical before them. rob & kemal kicked azZ
anyway your statement doesn't make sense
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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2004-07-10 09:44 [#01272446]
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have you heard the new kemal and tech itch vip on moving shadow? oh man it is brilliant.
linkage
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2004-07-10 13:05 [#01272530]
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i actually think original doctor shade is their most mature and professional album
anywayz, theyr all brilliant, no question
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-07-10 13:55 [#01272556]
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i cry all the time
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