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rchrddvdjms
from pellentrix (Papua new Guinea) on 2003-02-16 10:16 [#00556999]
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In the early 90's, electronic artists of more creative ambition and individuality began to grow wary of the of the quick-press, homogenous, disposable, house and techno movement and intrinsically, the faceless mobs that were whimsically defining what would be the future of electronic music. With the churning out of DJ albums showcasing nameless artists, techno music was forsaking art for Industry. In the UK, Ed Handley and Andy Turner, who had released an album under the name PLAID (Mbuki Mvuki which was only mildly indicative of what the future would bring) hooked up with Ken Downie and became BLACK DOG in 1991. Black Dog is generally regarded as the first band to regularly garner the "Intelligent Techno" description - most notably acclaimed for their album, "Bytes" (1993). At the same time, ORBITAL had begun to attain some critical notoriety and was beginning to take techno music out of the clubs and into the cafes, composing albums where the mighty 12 inch single had been the staple of many a techno act. While Orbital was never fully regarded as part of the "scene" that was becoming defined more thoroughly by the works of RICHARD JAMES (APHEX TWIN) and AUTECHRE, they have been considered an influential step in bringing the more ambient / introspective wave of techno to market. Labels, WARP RECORDS and Richard James's own REPHLEX RECORDS became commercial springboards in 1992 / 1993 and what we think of as "IDM" became more of a distinction, achieving genre status.
There is another consensus that states "IDM" really started as far back as Kraftwerk in the mid to late 80's and there is no doubt a wide variety of influences have been drawn upon in order to create the complex idea IDM has become today. A listing of influences by two of the acts named in the "IDM artists" above gives credit to "The Swans", "The KLF", and "808 State", "Run DMC" and "Pink Floyd". Only the "Ambient" movement paralleled the subversive, exclusively dedicated following that has attached itself to IDM until t
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-16 10:17 [#00557002]
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I hate the name IDM.Electronic sounds so much better. This is a good question though..
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2003-02-16 10:19 [#00557004]
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I do not agree. The definition is too long.
Why even try ?
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nacmat
on 2003-02-16 10:21 [#00557005]
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this has been largely discussed here.... but the first post was really interesting
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-16 10:22 [#00557006]
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I'd say Kraftwerk and Pink Floyd got the ball rolling.....
Also Its Richard D James not Richard James(his brother)...or should I tell this to the guy who originaly wrote this.(cut and pasted)
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Asche XL
on 2003-02-16 10:23 [#00557007]
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My comment on this: Who cares?
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-02-16 10:24 [#00557009]
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when i can be arrsed to rread it i will tell you what i think.
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-16 10:29 [#00557014]
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I still say internet dork music. ;)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-16 10:31 [#00557016]
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I like Henry Kaiser's idea that if he owned a music store he wouldn't have sections for different genres, just one big catalog of sounds.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-16 10:32 [#00557017]
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i don't have the attention span for this shit so no
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-02-16 10:41 [#00557023]
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Is your Bavarian hunting cap real or synthetic? I've got one from Germany made of mink fur.
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-16 10:44 [#00557027]
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Yeah sounds so much simpler Fleetmouse..just listed in alaphabetical order....I knew a shop where things are listed in chronological order,never worked,it was called masters of sound(got kind of mixed up with ministry of sound)
Pointless reply I know(thats just me)
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rchrddvdjms
from pellentrix (Papua new Guinea) on 2003-02-16 12:10 [#00557126]
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IDM is a useful term; and its here to stay
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-16 12:32 [#00557154]
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what the hell dude, thats my au natural hair
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-16 12:33 [#00557155]
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WHY DON'T YOU GROW SOME
GUFFAWHAW
:hifives myself:
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-02-16 12:48 [#00557174]
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EEM = Experimental Electronic Music
fits better don't u think?
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rchrddvdjms
from pellentrix (Papua new Guinea) on 2003-02-16 12:50 [#00557179]
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well its mostly not experimental - and a lot of it isnt just electronic
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Darth manchu
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-16 12:51 [#00557182]
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Electronica. simple. unpretentious. nice.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-02-16 12:57 [#00557200]
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i've always hated the term electronica.
i simply call it electronic music. but sometimes when i say 'electronic' people think i'm into techno/house. so 'experimental electronic music' seems more accurate.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-02-16 12:59 [#00557202]
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rchrddvdjms: it's mostly experimental compared to other electronic music genres. and all of it has some electronic elements.
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rchrddvdjms
from pellentrix (Papua new Guinea) on 2003-02-16 12:59 [#00557203]
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electronica is just as pretentious as IDM, although not quite so pretentious as "laptronica"
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rchrddvdjms
from pellentrix (Papua new Guinea) on 2003-02-16 13:00 [#00557205]
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look, i know best
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-02-16 13:06 [#00557219]
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laptronica?? LOL are you kidding me
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rchrddvdjms
from pellentrix (Papua new Guinea) on 2003-02-16 13:17 [#00557248]
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no, thats a term you'll be seeing more and more of soon :(
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lichtswitch
from playskull.com (United States) on 2003-02-16 13:18 [#00557251]
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phl spztk mzk eff this.
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Clic
on 2003-02-16 13:23 [#00557263]
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Ditto.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-02-16 13:45 [#00557321]
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If it wasn't called "Intelligent Electronic Music" how would all the smart people locate it amongst the Dj Irene Cd's? I cant remember the last time I saw little ravers and clubbers listening to anything but "thump thump thump".
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-16 13:53 [#00557345]
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I listen to "IDM" and rave.....
Pissed on weathered stoner's parade.
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-02-17 04:23 [#00557991]
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!B R AI N - FUCKING - D A N C E!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-02-17 04:24 [#00557992]
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not so bad a definition...
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nacmat
on 2003-02-17 04:28 [#00557995]
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M.I.L
music I like
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E-man
from Rixensart (Belgium) on 2003-02-17 04:38 [#00558009]
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nice one :p
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-17 08:16 [#00558208]
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braindance! I hate categories though, a lot of people limit themselves because they get a predetermined notion about a certain category and refuse to listen.
If it was one big A-Z selection at your local record shop, you'd be more inclined to listen or maye check out an artist based on curiosity of album cover or name.
When people avoid certain sections they limit themselves.
My friends are huge at this. Stright to the metal section then leave.
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-02-17 08:22 [#00558216]
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i like the classification IDM cuz its electronic but its not ur normal industrial or stupid unst unst unst type shit. i just don't like the almost arrogant meaning it has....Intelligent Dance Music
i prefer that over some stupid name like laptronica. wtf is that supposed to mean?
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-17 10:10 [#00558368]
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I think most of it isnt that intelligent, and also cant be danced to. ;)
I say internet dork because most of the listeners share their music on the internet (and make some of their music on their computers) and dork because everyone here is a bit nerdy/dorky/ect, and thats a good thing.
Yes indeed.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-02-17 10:15 [#00558370]
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just a bunch of freaks doing the sort of electro they want to hear.. normally victims of the techno generation :]
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-17 12:35 [#00558520]
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the term idm is retarded as hell
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