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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-02-15 15:51 [#00556441]
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Hey I don't know if any of you have any experience in writing but..I've been wanting to start afresh on and old story I wrote when I was young(er). I'm obviously hoping to make it more advanced, but do you guys have any tips on how to write a good story/how to structure a good story/ways of writing etc
Any help is appreciated.
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USACID
from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2003-02-15 15:54 [#00556444]
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yup, mimic it after the bible justl like hollywood does, then you'll be a billionare, well maybe a millionare after you hook me up with some $$$
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-02-15 15:56 [#00556447]
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Okay that wasn't helpful, so it wasn't appreciated :P
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-02-15 16:01 [#00556449]
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i've kinda wanted to do this as well
it helps to jot down ideas for brainstorming or write a brief thesis on what you wish to base your story upon
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-02-15 16:03 [#00556451]
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for example, i've jotted down a few ideas regarding what exists in the future (theoretically)
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-15 16:04 [#00556452]
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you could always buy stephen king's 'on writing', the second half of which is a tutorial. He's sold like a gazillion books so he must know something.
Alternativly, download the ebook :P
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-02-15 16:07 [#00556454]
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Worth a try.
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uzim
on 2003-02-15 16:29 [#00556465]
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i've tried writing stories many times.
every time i spent hours on the beginning, and ended up destroying what i started to write because it sucked. :)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-02-15 16:38 [#00556471]
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plagarise something
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-02-15 19:52 [#00556560]
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that is such a great and helpful book, I own a copy of that too. It contains alot of helpful tips and tricks, but bear in mind that his way of approaching things may not be yours. But it's a joy to read anyway, if only to read up on how he grew up right up til the accident which almost left him for dead
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-02-20 05:31 [#00562761]
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yeah i have done that many times aswell.
it takes alot of time and efforrt and skill to wrrite a good book. it takes lots of time and efforrt to wrrite a prretty crrap book. be warrned DJ, you got ya worrk cut out, but go forr it. trry a shorrt storry to starrt. maybe a verry verry shorrt storry and let people rread it and see if you have got it in you to wrrite storrys people can enjoy.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-20 05:36 [#00562767]
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wawww that a difficult one ive written short stories in french of course, and im starting with a big novel
in fact im attempting to write different books with the same landscape dreamscape in every one, but totally different characters, situations
but thats hard for me now, my imagination sucks at the moment, i feel too bad..
but when im ok to write, i cant explain how it flows, just natural thing for me, but basically i take the principal ideas and turn them in my mind all time until some good ideas come to me, then i find a way to add them in the picture...
voilà :)
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-20 05:37 [#00562770]
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btw what is your story about?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-20 05:37 [#00562771]
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Plaigarise at least 20 different books- draw elements from each and change the overall setting and characters' names. It's what most authors do :P
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-02-20 05:38 [#00562772]
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Thank you for the early vote of confidence, I shall remember this when writing my Acknowledgements.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-02-20 05:40 [#00562774]
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two words.... What If ?
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-20 05:41 [#00562776]
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yes my first one will be bary twidler and the chamber of excalibur with licorns and warewolves and elves and the st graal and a 3 headed dog called puppy
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-02-20 05:42 [#00562779]
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i write.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-20 05:43 [#00562781]
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what sort of stories ? i am seriously interested whos that in your avatar ? me ? ;)
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-02-20 05:44 [#00562782]
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It's sort of like Terry Pratchett but without all the drivel. Suppose it'll be a page long then.
Thinking about it, I may just start all over again . . . but then, I've run out of new ideas.
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-20 05:45 [#00562786]
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hey whats a good pratchets book to start? ive heard this name alot past days, and someone told me my drawings reminded them about that world
tell me :)
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-02-20 05:47 [#00562788]
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you wrong.
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Kill Switch
from Belgium on 2003-02-20 05:48 [#00562789]
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First sit down and have a long think. :-) Write down every idea that comes to mind 'bout structuring, the feeling you wanne put in it. Mix this alltogheter to something you like best and start writing with improvising on the structure you've made.
And don't delete anything. If you wrote a part that you dont like, just store it elsewhere, you never know you wanne go back to that piece.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-02-20 05:48 [#00562792]
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I've read the start of about ten of his books, they start strong but get boring real quick.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-02-20 05:49 [#00562797]
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Thanks for the tips :)
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-02-20 05:50 [#00562801]
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hahaha
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core
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-20 05:50 [#00562802]
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Here's a great method of writing strong stories: It must be good enough to be a great & intriguing idea when abbreviated down to ONE PARAGRAPH of text.
Get yourself a blank hardback jotter, go sit in a cafe and write the outline paragraph.
Then on the next page, expand the story to a full page, with more twists and major plot elements.
Then turn the page and start a FOUR-PAGE synopsis of the same exact story, throwing in some 'spanners' i.e. defining moments.
Then do the same again over EIGHT PAGES. get the idea? Finally, always remember the rule of great fiction: There must be some type of journey for the reader. It can be geographically, emotionally, spiritually, morally or whatever, but always remember that the book starts at A and ends at Z and there must be some sort of 'CHANGE' in-between the two. So don't ever let it sit too long with pages of over-descriptive text, because people are more interested in reading an EVENT on each page rather than a description.
I hope this helps... Good Luck!
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glass_eater
from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-20 05:52 [#00562809]
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lol
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-02-20 05:54 [#00562813]
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"So don't ever let it sit too long with pages of over-descriptive text"
a trrap Stephen King (The Stand sprrings to mind) and many otherrs have fallen into.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-02-20 05:56 [#00562819]
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That DID help. I really appreciate that *goes to add topic to favourites*.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-02-20 17:50 [#00563748]
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when i was younger i nailed douglas adams' writing style and from that sort of developed my own. but now i concentrate more on story and character which is why i switched to a screenplay format. time will tell if anything comes of that, but i have a couple of things in the works that are unlike anything i've heard of in a movie, although they resemble some things superficially.
good luck, writing isn't easy, although, if you're good, you can easily become a bestselling author if you don't mind writing crap.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-02-20 17:51 [#00563750]
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also, there are no surefire ways to success in any kind of creative field. some peoples styles will work, others won't. generally, this kind of advice has a sort of effect of making you think you can do it, and from that you do it, but its basically all down to you simply sitting down and writing, nothing else.
so my advice: write. then write some more.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-02-20 17:53 [#00563751]
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oh yeah, and really, don't worry about the reader. the reader, or audience if you're doing movies, is you. satisfy yourself first. its cheesy but its the only way you'll be happy with what you produce.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-02-20 18:41 [#00563779]
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anus, I think your style should be very distinctive, writing a book using double r's all the time. ;D
"Once upon a time, therre was a prrincess who lived in a grreat big castle etc. etc."
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vamason
from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-02-20 20:16 [#00563846]
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King's book may help one write a popular book, but not neccessarily a good book
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