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offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-02-15 15:51 [#00556441]
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Hey I don't know if any of you have any experience in
writing but..I've been wanting to start afresh on and old
story I wrote when I was young(er). I'm obviously hoping to
make it more advanced, but do you guys have any tips on how
to write a good story/how to structure a good story/ways of
writing etc

Any help is appreciated.


 

offline USACID from Death Valley (Zambia) on 2003-02-15 15:54 [#00556444]
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yup, mimic it after the bible justl like hollywood does,
then you'll be a billionare, well maybe a millionare after
you hook me up with some $$$


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-02-15 15:56 [#00556447]
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Okay that wasn't helpful, so it wasn't appreciated :P


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-02-15 16:01 [#00556449]
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i've kinda wanted to do this as well

it helps to jot down ideas for brainstorming or write a
brief thesis on what you wish to base your story upon


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-02-15 16:03 [#00556451]
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for example, i've jotted down a few ideas regarding what
exists in the future (theoretically)


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-15 16:04 [#00556452]
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you could always buy stephen king's 'on writing', the second
half of which is a tutorial. He's sold like a gazillion
books so he must know something.

Alternativly, download the ebook :P


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-02-15 16:07 [#00556454]
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Worth a try.


 

offline uzim on 2003-02-15 16:29 [#00556465]
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i've tried writing stories many times.

every time i spent hours on the beginning, and ended up
destroying what i started to write because it sucked. :)


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-02-15 16:38 [#00556471]
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plagarise something


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-02-15 19:52 [#00556560]
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that is such a great and helpful book, I own a copy of that
too. It contains alot of helpful tips and tricks, but bear
in mind that his way of approaching things may not be yours.
But it's a joy to read anyway, if only to read up on how he
grew up right up til the accident which almost left him for
dead


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-02-20 05:31 [#00562761]
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yeah i have done that many times aswell.

it takes alot of time and efforrt and skill to wrrite a good
book. it takes lots of time and efforrt to wrrite a prretty
crrap book. be warrned DJ, you got ya worrk cut out, but go
forr it. trry a shorrt storry to starrt. maybe a verry verry
shorrt storry and let people rread it and see if you have
got it in you to wrrite storrys people can enjoy.


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-20 05:36 [#00562767]
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wawww that a difficult one
ive written short stories in french of course, and im
starting with a big novel
in fact im attempting to write different books with the same
landscape dreamscape in every one, but totally different
characters, situations
but thats hard for me now, my imagination sucks at the
moment, i feel too bad..
but when im ok to write, i cant explain how it flows, just
natural thing for me, but basically i take the principal
ideas and turn them in my mind all time until some good
ideas come to me, then i find a way to add them in the
picture...
voilà
:)


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-20 05:37 [#00562770]
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btw what is your story about?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-20 05:37 [#00562771]
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Plaigarise at least 20 different books- draw elements from
each and change the overall setting and characters' names.
It's what most authors do :P


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-02-20 05:38 [#00562772]
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Thank you for the early vote of confidence, I shall remember
this when writing my Acknowledgements.


 

offline pOgO from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-02-20 05:40 [#00562774]
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two words.... What If ?


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-20 05:41 [#00562776]
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yes my first one will be bary twidler and the chamber of
excalibur with licorns and warewolves and elves and the st
graal and a 3 headed dog called puppy


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-02-20 05:42 [#00562779]
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i write.


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-20 05:43 [#00562781]
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what sort of stories ?
i am seriously interested
whos that in your avatar ? me ?
;)


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-02-20 05:44 [#00562782]
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It's sort of like Terry Pratchett but without all the
drivel. Suppose it'll be a page long then.

Thinking about it, I may just start all over again . . . but
then, I've run out of new ideas.


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-20 05:45 [#00562786]
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hey whats a good pratchets book to start?
ive heard this name alot past days, and someone told me my
drawings reminded them about that world
tell me :)


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-02-20 05:47 [#00562788]
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you wrong.


 

offline Kill Switch from Belgium on 2003-02-20 05:48 [#00562789]
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First sit down and have a long think. :-)
Write down every idea that comes to mind 'bout structuring,
the feeling you wanne put in it. Mix this alltogheter to
something you like best and start writing with improvising
on the structure you've made.
And don't delete anything. If you wrote a part that you dont
like, just store it elsewhere, you never know you wanne go
back to that piece.



 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-02-20 05:48 [#00562792]
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I've read the start of about ten of his books, they start
strong but get boring real quick.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-02-20 05:49 [#00562797]
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Thanks for the tips :)


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-02-20 05:50 [#00562801]
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hahaha


 

offline core from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-20 05:50 [#00562802]
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Here's a great method of writing strong stories:

It must be good enough to be a great & intriguing idea when
abbreviated down to ONE PARAGRAPH of text.

Get yourself a blank hardback jotter, go sit in a cafe and
write the outline paragraph.

Then on the next page, expand the story to a full page, with
more twists and major plot elements.

Then turn the page and start a FOUR-PAGE synopsis of the
same exact story, throwing in some 'spanners' i.e. defining
moments.

Then do the same again over EIGHT PAGES. get the idea?

Finally, always remember the rule of great fiction: There
must be some type of journey for the reader. It can be
geographically, emotionally, spiritually, morally or
whatever, but always remember that the book starts at A and
ends at Z and there must be some sort of 'CHANGE' in-between
the two. So don't ever let it sit too long with pages of
over-descriptive text, because people are more interested in
reading an EVENT on each page rather than a description.

I hope this helps... Good Luck!


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-02-20 05:52 [#00562809]
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lol


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-02-20 05:54 [#00562813]
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"So don't ever let it sit too long with pages of
over-descriptive text"

a trrap Stephen King (The Stand sprrings to mind) and many
otherrs have fallen into.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-02-20 05:56 [#00562819]
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That DID help. I really appreciate that *goes to add topic
to favourites*.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-02-20 17:50 [#00563748]
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when i was younger i nailed douglas adams' writing style and
from that sort of developed my own. but now i concentrate
more on story and character which is why i switched to a
screenplay format. time will tell if anything comes of that,
but i have a couple of things in the works that are unlike
anything i've heard of in a movie, although they resemble
some things superficially.
good luck, writing isn't easy, although, if you're good, you
can easily become a bestselling author if you don't mind
writing crap.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-02-20 17:51 [#00563750]
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also, there are no surefire ways to success in any kind of
creative field. some peoples styles will work, others won't.
generally, this kind of advice has a sort of effect of
making you think you can do it, and from that you do it, but
its basically all down to you simply sitting down and
writing, nothing else.
so my advice: write. then write some more.


 

offline zaphod from the metaverse on 2003-02-20 17:53 [#00563751]
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oh yeah, and really, don't worry about the reader. the
reader, or audience if you're doing movies, is you. satisfy
yourself first. its cheesy but its the only way you'll be
happy with what you produce.


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-02-20 18:41 [#00563779]
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anus, I think your style should be very distinctive, writing
a book using double r's all the time. ;D

"Once upon a time, therre was a prrincess who lived in a
grreat big castle etc. etc."


 

offline vamason from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-02-20 20:16 [#00563846]
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King's book may help one write a popular book, but not
neccessarily a good book


 


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