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I watched all this today(Hans Blix`s report to the UN of the inspections),yes it went on for a few hours.....but I found it was interesting.It was good to see him put Colin Powell in his place,with him saying about the evidence which Powell presented last week (the satalite pictures were a couple of weeks apart ,and they already knew about them,which thusly proved nothing :D). The french speach was great (bad though considering they seem to speak for the majority of britons),and I agree that they (the UN inspectors)should be given more time,and have more inspectors in Iraq,as well as UN troops........but Bush is "gonna kick Saddams ass" no matter what it seems (the fucking twat) :( I just wish I wasn`t working tomorrow so I could go on the anti war march,and swamp Tony Blair at the SECC..... Anyways......what were your thoughts on this ? |
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I watched this up until Ivanov, so caught the remarks of all the key people. My conclusion now is that there's no point in arguing, war is most definitely on it's way. I can understand why the marchers want to go and make their statement, but it won't achieve anything. |
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one solution would be for the american people to assasinate their crazy president and the iraqi people assasinate their mad dictator and blair could do with a damn good kicking too |
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Yeah,it unfortunately seems that way,but it is supposed to be a democracy (yeah right,in times like like this you relize that it doesn`t work)and people should be heard one way or another,even if it doesn`t stop the war,it`s better than doing nothing,only complaining about it.It still pisses me off :( :D... Loogie , I agree with all 3 points there,hehe ;) especially the 3rd (worse should happen to Bush;) |
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Another great bout of wisdom Loogie. |
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The French and Germans are making a serious mistake. The States don't forget things easily. They'll remember the way in which France and Germany defied them and genuinely made things difficult. Loggie suggesting assasinating Bush is not in the slightest bit funny. You do realise that you're effectively shitting on your own doorstep. |
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Loogie you fucking tard, people who make threats against world leaders tend to get visits from the authorities. Don't think they'll ask Phobia for the server logs so they can trace your IP address? Think again. |
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Assasination solves nothing...that put's VP Cheney (a well-loved war hawk in the Republican Admin.) and Colin Powell taking Cheney's spot as US veep. That ASSURES a pro-war stance on foreign relations and could make things MUCH worse down the road... Loogie STFU and get a clue. |
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Cheney as US prez that should say...not good for anti-war people... |
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north korea poses much more of a threat |
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i just hope this can all be resolved diplomatically |
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How do you diplomatically remove Saddam Hussein from power that is the question. He ain't gonna go, he ain't gonna go, he ain't gonna go. How many times do people need to hear it to get it. |
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i don't recall making any threats i'm fed up with "democratically elected" leaders ignoring the opinions of the democratic majority in their country |
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coudn't agree more i think was is more important is the fact that america seems to be steamrollering every other countries opinion despite whatever they or their people may think, and i think this is far more dangerous than the threat from iraq. a new world order would signify the end of democracy, the end of free will, and the end of the world. |
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we need mothers in the government,.tasty milfs. Throw out all testosteron,.it'll kill the posing for sure. All of this war crap aint nothing but boasting about who got the largest.. . |
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who's got the largest bush? :) |
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prolly Koffi Anan,... but he's pretty peaceful |
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Don't forget that there is a genuine fake in power in the USA--the real president is Al Gore. American Citizenry should demand the arrest of Bush, and have him thrown into jail with the other cokeheads and thieves. And once Blair has wiped the shit off his nose, he can apologise to the UK public for dismissing them so complaicantly and arrogantly. If it's a mistake to speak your mind and oppose tyranny, then I guess the French and Germans are braveness personified, contrary to the disgusting arrogant vilification that has been brought against them. LE ROI EST MORT! VIVE LE ROI! |
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if NATO dissolves , we're dead. they've done a pretty good job so far. |
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the real president is Al Gore Oh yeah, like THAT'S an improvement! :P |
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Better than a white chimp with white powder on his lapel, who wants to follow in daddy's footsteps and obey the Oil COrporations who helped pay for his fraud. At least Clinton helped broker peace in Western Asia, and had tougher airport security--BOTH of which Bush reversed. But then, like roosevelt before Pearl Harbor, Bush probably knew what was happening. Politics is one big chess game, and sometimes sacrificing the queen is the best policy--the queen, of course, being the twin towers of the world trade center... I doubt there were actually any Islamic terrorists aboard any of the planes. Osama Bin Laden's recording studio is probably in the Pentagon. |
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"i'm fed up with "democratically elected" leaders ignoring the opinions of the democratic majority in their country" I think it's important that they are willing to ignore the majority from time to time. After all, the majority are pretty much a bunch of idiots. |
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Al Gore isn't the president. Al Gore isn't going to be the president. Get over it! The Americans had their vote. The Florida result was unclear so due legal process was followed and Bush was judged to have won. It's not a perfect system, but it's much better than what Iraq has. |
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are you sure? |
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Yes. |
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don't forget us belgians, same side as french and germans, and yes it is the good way to act, we are the only countries not transgressing international laws... all pro-war countries are making illegals actions towards iraq, i'm all for saddam to go, and there sure is ways to do it diplomaticaly. it's so ridiculous, america bashing us for not supporting them even tho they are in illegality! so, let bush do his war, but after do you think it's a good thing to put an US government on irak??? |
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The US and UK haven't broken any international laws yet, Iraq has been doing it for 12 years. |
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i really don't want to entyer some kind of argument, but by sending troops there (remember they are already doing some actions in the territory of irak) without the permission of the ONU they are breaking international laws... but really i don't care that much you know ^_^ |
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Bullshit, the US has broken many International Laws - see Afganhistan Invasion |
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I'm referring to the situation in Iraq. |
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Who says the US and UK need the permission of the UN to send troops to the Gulf? Yes, they are already doing things in Iraq, such as the patrolling of no-fly zones. |
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I have great admiration and respect for the nations defying Bush regime's plans for propagating senseless destruction for the next 50 years...even though the motivations of Germany, France, Russia, China and Belgium maybe only slightly less than humanitarian and slightly more in tune to their own vested interests..but it IS in effect..stemming the jingoist tides that were set to sweep the world washing off any vestiges of civilization it may (or maynot) have acquired in the past century.. In effect their are saying to Bush administration..hold on..we cant just give you carte blanche to kill 10s, 100s of thousands of innocent people purely based on the 9/11 tragedy... BTW in my opinion Bush is equally deserving of a hostile overthrow as Saddam...and I still doubt that his administration did everything they could to prevent 9/11...if they did...Cheney would go around proclaiming 9/11 to be the oppertunity of the ages.. |
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The Sanctions against Iraq. Violate the Genocide Convention of 1948 Genocide is defined in the Genocide Convention, in part, as follows: Article II...genocide means any of the following acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: a) Killing members of the group; b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; |
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whats the difference between the french and some toast? you can make soldiers out of toast |
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has anyone heard this one? how many gears does a french tank have? 6, 5 to go backward and 1 forward incase the enemy comes from behind |
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The sanctions don't have the intent of doing any of those things, |
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wouldnt sanctions have been lifted had they complied with the UN? |
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not much that can be said about the whole situation. its all pretty much fucked |
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yeah, thats a pretty accurate summary |
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not much can be changed either. total steamroll |
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marlowe, "I guess the French and Germans are braveness personified". Lol. Thats a fucking good one. The French gave up pretty friggen' quickly in World War 2. Brave you got to be kidding? Lol. Jesus Christ a lot of the French were collaborators. Lol. The French especially are just being the difficult sods that they usually are. They ought to all get a fucking life. Like I said France and German will pay for this. The States will remember the way they opposed them, it'll hurt France and Germany economically because the States wont be so keen to do business with them in the future; whereas Britain well we can only benefit from this. The French think they're a world power and are just trying to flex their little muscles by being difficult sods. They're not brave they are the ones with the fantasies and delusions of grandeur. We (the States and Britain) on the otherhand are trying to save innoncent people from being murdered each day by Sadman Insane; we are the braves ones and don't you forget it. ;-) |
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Good to see Danbrusca defending democracy with his "Al Gore isn't president" stance--that's exactly the stance that was instilled in the US public so that would accept Bush--looks like they have another success in Danbrusca (I'm not presuming Danbrusca is an American btw, in case he read it and felt like putting "I'm not american you asshole!") ;) |
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The French were fucked because of their Geographical situation you jingoist retard. They didn't "give up". They were invaded. Smug fuckers like you will hopefully be the first sent into battle to strip themselves of their patronising idiocy. |
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Yup, Fuckhead W. Bush was not democraticly elected as president,Al Gore got 1/2 a million more votes.....in florida 1000`s of people were blocked by police,not allowing them to vote (they actually were allowed).....obviously they were black and would of voted for Al gore.They broadcasted on the tv that Bush junior was president,even though he wasn`t (knowing that Gore could win they got the network to broadcast this anyway,making people think otherwise).George W. Knobhead got the recount cancelled,and the judges that elected him as "president" were friends and appointed by Bush senior......now thats democracy..... Al Gore is president,these people have just wormed there way in.....do not trust them,and yup,nobody done fuck all about it......ah well :D |
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Maybe it was instilled in the US public because it was right? For the record, I'm not American either. |
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Right? It wasn't right--he wasn't democratically elected--check the facts why don't you--it's not like it was that well hidden from the public--which makes it all the damning. |
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France. The only country with drilling rights in Iraq (i believe). Germany. A tough stance against the war is seen as a way of getting re-elected. I dont want a war, but sometimes its good to see that pretty much everyone is trying to get as much out of this as they can. |
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It's true that France/Germany opposition isn't based on POlitical Idealism--but at least it means someone is stopping (at least temporarily) the steamroller that is the Axis of Morons |
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no, the americans did not have their vote. the white americans had their vote. there was little coverage on the topic--i only caught it mentioned once on national public radio-- but on election day in florida there was a mysteriously high number of black and hispanic people being pulled over and taken in and kept away from the voting booth. it's so little discussed... i wish i had links to the articles, there were a few journalists who speaking out on this, who interviewed minorites that were arrested on absolutely fake charges. |
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the numbers were high, but i don't remember exactly. |
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