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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-02-07 17:30 [#00545707]
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finally ive listened to the album, and it struck me how much similar both albums are. many tracks really sound like tracks off confield. cant remember the tracknames, but some of them remembered me cfern, sim gishel, bine. anyone know if the draft 7.30 material was composed at the same time as confield?
imo, draft is a catchier confield.
(oh yeah, and sorry for yet another draft topic...)
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-02-07 17:36 [#00545714]
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"give him the chair"
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-07 17:39 [#00545718]
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a lot alike
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-07 17:40 [#00545719]
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damn. i hated confield. :(
probly won't like draft either then
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-02-07 17:41 [#00545723]
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depends on why you hated confield. i find draft is more catchier, takes less time to getting used to, so there's still hope!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-07 18:34 [#00545795]
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i agree... draft is, to me at least, kind of like confield done right... sorry gang, i just didnt think too much of a majority of that album (although cfern, eidetic casein, and VI scose poise were great). it kind of sounds like lp5 mixed with confield with some tri rep thrown in for good measure. but no description is going to suit it, you just gotta hear it.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-02-07 19:01 [#00545814]
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So far, it's just another Confield to me... the melodies don't seem any more or less noticeable.
But this is Autechre, so I have to give it time. But I don't see why it's less challenging than Confield.
The third track (6IE.CR) fucking blows me away, though.
I think Autechre might have peaked creatively, where the hell can they go next? No way is THIS a step up. Not a step BACK by any means... maybe sideways.
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Phresch
from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-02-07 19:07 [#00545816]
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weird. i hated Confield (still do), but i like Draft.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-07 19:10 [#00545817]
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Ive been saying this for awhile...
everyone yelled at me for it...
finally, people who agree!
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-02-07 19:14 [#00545821]
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i didnt meant to sound like draft doesnt impress me, or that i dont like it. i really do so far!
im just a little surprised i didnt read anyone mentioning that a lot of the tracks on it resemble confield. strikingly.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-07 19:17 [#00545824]
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oh, yeah i agree, they do... theres even a little gantz graf in there, less abrassive of course. i think its great because to me, it sounds like a time capsule "here's where we've been, here's where we're going" kind of thing.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-07 19:21 [#00545827]
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Yeah, I mean, I really like Draft 7.30, and Ill definatly buy it...
but its just that people where all like "its gonna be so amazing! TOTALLY new style! Autechre is not predictable! It has hip hop, in it, its their most accessable, it has great melodies"
That was all a bunch of crap.
And people are still saying it, even after hearing it. "Its so different!" etc etc.
No, its really not. I mean, it really truely is Confield Part 2.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-02-07 19:24 [#00545829]
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Oh man, I am not on this train...
I think it is NOTHING like confield...Confield was VERY DARK and POINTY as to where Draft is a little more ROUNDED OFF and GREYISH...
Anyone kinda get that...I like it alot...more and more everyday.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-07 19:24 [#00545830]
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um, but there ARE hip-hop beats and i think the melodies ARE amazing... very well constructed. simple AND complex, a nice combo. plus, i find it very unpredictable... when i listened to it the first time i really didnt know where it was going from one track to the next, and even IN each track. and i think the accesible thing is just a comparitive statement, compared to gantz graf, sure its accesible... is it gonna be on trl, no.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-07 19:24 [#00545832]
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yes, much softer and not as violent.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-07 19:28 [#00545836]
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yeah, but all of their work has melodies and hip hop influences
this was no push from that.
when I read it, it made it seem like it was goin to be much more pronounced.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-07 19:29 [#00545837]
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you dont think the "unh-unh" clubbin-type funk was more pronounced? im not saying youre wrong, maybe i just hear it more clearly on this one than i have before.
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-02-07 19:33 [#00545843]
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Yeah when news about the album came out and it was predicted to SURPASS Confield, well I just wasnt havin it.
There is NO WAY Ae could ever reproduce anything like Confield, that was at such a unique and ear shattering album those guys put together. I just couldnt imagine even THEY couldnt record something that dark now...Different time if thier loves, different moods and outlooks as you grow and create....
Draft is fucking awsome though. 3 and 6 are my faves so far
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-02-07 19:33 [#00545844]
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i think i agree with what youre saying. but it's strange to see almost everyone liking it. probably because confield softened the blow, because when confield was released, ouch!
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-02-07 19:33 [#00545845]
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that was different time in thier LIVES*
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-07 19:47 [#00545858]
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for sure.
Its really not much different, but since people loved confeild after awhile, there is no adjustment time for this one... youre already prepared
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nacmat
on 2003-02-07 19:50 [#00545860]
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I love confield
I am waiting
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Xenotactics
from Asheboro (United States) on 2003-02-07 19:52 [#00545862]
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I see the similarity between the two, of course, but I really don't think they sound like two sides of a coin or cut from the same mold. I didn't really find Confield to be particularly difficult to enjoy or "get into the groove of", but this record is more accessible. Oddly enough it may also be more interesting...
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-07 22:13 [#00545965]
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Really, I look forward to hearing it on CD. I'll listen a couple of times on a legitimate copy and see if it changes me any. Not really sure right now--I can see me loving this release or hating it, but right now it's just striking me as a very average record.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-08 00:22 [#00546047]
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its not a "confield part 2".
bullshit.
to me it does sound very different. more upbeat.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-02-08 00:41 [#00546068]
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''its not a "confield part 2".
bullshit.''
Stop it! You're scaring me! :-[
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-02-08 02:03 [#00546117]
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i think youve got a good point there.
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CORTEX
from Canada on 2003-02-08 02:04 [#00546119]
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really, it sounds like an average record to you?? or you meant an average ae record?
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-02-08 02:21 [#00546123]
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how do you know it's real?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-08 02:40 [#00546129]
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well, if its NOT real.... its a DAMN good copy of autechre's abilities as musicians
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-08 02:41 [#00546130]
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AND whoever it is should be signed IMMEDIATELY
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-08 02:41 [#00546131]
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i meant darn, sorry
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-02-08 03:32 [#00546140]
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i hate both =[
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nacmat
on 2003-02-08 05:14 [#00546170]
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dont hate
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-02-08 05:27 [#00546177]
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1. no, it dosen't sound like Confield.
2. of course this is the next logical step 'up'.
3. 'Surripere' is my favorite at the moment, because its very emotional, coming in the same time Parhelic Triangle did on Confield, also my favorite track on the previous album.
4. its great.
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-02-08 06:35 [#00546194]
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Yeah - I don't know about you folks but Draft is wildly more accessible IMO. I can understand the comparisons to Confield but Draft is more beat driven, more fist pumpin', more ass-kicking Ae.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-08 07:27 [#00546215]
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Yah, I think it's an average record. It sounds like Autechre, but I'd say it's on par with just about everything else. It's not going to be the crux of their career, so don't get your hopes up.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-02-08 07:45 [#00546230]
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i got these impressions with team doyobis dfo bad
im certain i heard recycled samples from cryptoburners. im a fan, tho :)
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-02-08 07:48 [#00546233]
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"Yah, I think it's an average record. "
lol
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nacmat
on 2003-02-08 08:13 [#00546252]
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I dont care what any of you say... I will wait here for my cd and after a certain amount of serious and dedicate listens I will make my own review
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-02-08 14:10 [#00546656]
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anyway draft7.30 is really near to Confield imo and distant from Gantz Graf.
I thought Ae make something few different with this new album.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-08 14:15 [#00546669]
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xylin room, surripere, theme of sudden roundabout (especially) and reniform pulse are highly reminiscent of confield.
in fact, i could see the album get bad reviews for this.
draft's certainly not a leap forward but it rocks altogether. it's unfair to judge the album based on previous albums.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-02-08 14:54 [#00546750]
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i would say it's like confield because most of the songs initially make you want to turn them off
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2003-02-08 14:54 [#00546752]
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aside from surripere
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-08 14:56 [#00546755]
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i'm all up in that shit like cameltoe
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avart
from nomo' on 2003-02-08 15:04 [#00546762]
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Cygnus: You?re right.
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