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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-05 18:40 [#00542701]
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atoms are something like 10^-23 times smaller than us and the universe is something like 10^23 times larger than us. some mathemetician told a friend of mine that this was not in fact a profundity because the horizon of the macroscopic perception would be equally as "distant" logorithmically as would be the horizon of the microscopic perception. i cannot figure why this is so and wonder if he was merely trying to justify the situation without having to question the limits of logic... being a mathemtician. though if it is true that there is an logical explanation why this is so, I am dying to know and speak up if you have any idea.
the ratio of the sun's diameter to its distance from us is equivilant to the ratio of the moon's diameter to its distance from us... thus both bodies occupy one half of a degree of our sky and the full eclipse's are made possible. the sun fades into darkness like a dialated pupil, the moon turns fire red.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-05 18:43 [#00542703]
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today in the clouds i saw a ducky
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-02-05 18:44 [#00542704]
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http://www.solarphysics.kva.se/NatureNov2002/images/AR10030 _4877_color.jpeg
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-05 18:52 [#00542707]
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thanks for sharing that. it's beautiful.
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gl1tch
from The Meantime (United States) on 2003-02-05 19:35 [#00542747]
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Everything is connected.
The Earth is 75% water - We are 75% water.
Everything is Everything is Everything.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-05 19:36 [#00542748]
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i like my bum
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-02-05 20:21 [#00542763]
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Life is in total balance.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-02-05 20:39 [#00542775]
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wow, thats beautiful
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magiker
from Östersund (Sweden) on 2003-02-06 02:44 [#00542896]
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From my childhood up until I was 23 I thought about things like these 10^23 times.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-06 02:55 [#00542909]
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The distance between the moon and us and us and the sun are probably related due to the fact they are both orbits- orbits can only occur within a particular "window" of distance from the centre of the orbit. Too far away and it'd fly out of orbit, too near and it'd just fall down to the centre of the orbit.
The things you mentioned about "atoms are something like 10^-23 times smaller than us and
the universe is something like 10^23 times larger than us" is quite interesting though.
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-02-06 03:05 [#00542919]
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"something like" leaves a fair bit of leeway either end though.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-02-06 03:16 [#00542926]
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Fair point. I think the point he was making is that we're roughy "in the middle" of the scale of size of things.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-06 15:54 [#00543918]
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that's not so because you must consider density. an object of equal mass, lesser diameter and thus greater density could occupy the same orbit and it wouldn't occupy the same amount of sky as the sun.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-06 15:59 [#00543926]
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the "something like" is only due to my memory. the person who passed this information to me wasn't giving any leeway.
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-02-06 16:24 [#00543946]
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atoms are somewhat 10^-12 times smaller than we (the cores 10^-16) and the universe is at about 10^40 times larger. but maybe it's that weird system of units you use over there ;)
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gr3nt
from Edmond (Bulgaria) on 2003-02-06 16:27 [#00543947]
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the smaller particles we find, the bigger the universe seems, and we - even more insignificant
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_user
from rostov-on-don (Russia) on 2003-02-06 16:41 [#00543964]
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that's great, but actually i need some time to translate & realize this. so i've saved this page and i'll read it offline...i like such things...
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nacmat
on 2003-02-06 16:50 [#00543974]
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best thread in a month
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nacmat
on 2003-02-06 16:53 [#00543975]
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I enjoyed reading it... very interesting, but my poor english wont let me explain clearly what I think
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_user
from rostov-on-don (Russia) on 2003-02-06 17:04 [#00543981]
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yeah, i'm quite agree with you
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-06 17:06 [#00543982]
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hurrah!
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-06 17:07 [#00543983]
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my mind has been pretty fucked lately, regarding the universe. like how can there be an end to it? but how can there not?
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2003-02-06 17:08 [#00543986]
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I know the answer of that secret, Roygbivcore, but I will not tell you, because I promised my mother.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-06 17:17 [#00544003]
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It's okay to not have answers to some questions.
It's okay to doubt.
To try to work out all the universal answers with our current data set encourages a superstitious cargo cult mentality.
We know some things and speculate about others, and some things are just so far over the horizon that they are best left to science fiction writers.
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jupitah
from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-06 18:38 [#00544076]
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i used to think about that a lot as a kid... along with trying to grasp the concept of there being no beginning of time, or there being one. i was obsessed with infinity.
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