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any fans of his films here? i just saw black cat, white cat and it was hilarious i saw six of his films and i love them all he always gets excelent actors, music is wonderful and his style of film making is one of a kind so, how well is he known in other parts of the world? |
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pitbull!!!!!!!! |
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terrier!!!!!!!!!!! |
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I love black cat white cat, underground ...........and what others? black cat white cat is still on theatres here |
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these are the ones i have seen -black cat, white cat -underground -arizona dream -time of the gypsies -when father was away on business -do you remember dolly bell |
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just seen time of the gypsies and black cat white cat in mother language (with english subs) they're between of the best movies i ever seen! |
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im not so sure i still like kusturica all that much : ) |
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Goddamn, you indie cinema hipster - everyone else likes things you used to like. :-( |
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why? there are a lot of gypsies in milan and everybody think they are cunts, now i make larger smiles to the children playing accordion in the metro =) ah, i forgot to tell you that at the end i haven't been to ae's live at turin, i got myself too stoned while driving and didn't found the place. i've driven five hours all across that fucking city but i didn't found it, i just stopped for a becks and made 250 km back home, one of the worst nights of my life XD |
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couldn't you just ask someone for direction? i don't have experience with gypsies myself..i don't mind them. i just don't like hyped stuff for some reason, and kusturica's got an attitude problem. mouse, maybe it's just a phase : ) |
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i didn't know he's got some problem, now you're goin too much into something i don't dare to check. i just know that those moovies don't left me down =) have you ever been to turin? couldn't find an italian neither paying for it. only maroccains and that kind of stuff ;) one dude from romania said he did already seen me and asked if i was rumenian, that was the best moment of the trip! |
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yeah, i spent about 5 days there couple of years ago..i didn't have problems finding anything i must say..plenty of italians as well, though everytime i visit italia i see more africans.. |
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plenty of italians.. maybe, but not by feet at that time of the day. the place was on the other side of the river and i just couldn't get the right path to move around it.. most probably i was too stoned. no worries though, for the next years italy's gonna back to mussolini's decennio and send those bastards right in their country. |
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hehe btw, did you see moretti's 'il caimano'? that one was fun! |
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i didn't see it, gonna check it out next =) "caos calmo" his last one is not bad but not worth watching imho, it came out with alot of hype for a sex scene totally out of context that riuned a nice movie, moretti acting in a hardcore fucking is just not credible XD |
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haha, yeah quite unimaginable actually it's a weird trened this pointless explicit sex scenes thing..i don't get it nor like it. unless it makes sense in the context. dunno |
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the one in time of the gypsies when they rape the girl in the roulotte is a sex scene in the right contest, methinks kusturica wants to show what happens before to these girls on the streets of italy. the one is caos calmo absolutely isn't, it is a soft movie with drama enough to make you think something but when it came that scene i thought that there has to be sex in that movie to be sold enough. |
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kusturica is never explicit though..he can't afford it..he doesn't make independant movies anymore : ) yeah, lots of films seem to use sex scenes for propaganda. i can't imagine nanni in hardcore sex scene at all |
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i didn't know that, thats why i liked time of the gypsies that much! it seems to be dated '88. considering the amount of sex alussions we get everyday just taking a walk on the street i don't think you're too conventional, ppl should be watching less and do more in my opinion. stress and wanks, that is all about. |
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me included of course |
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i like sex scenes with feelings involved..not the animal like sex. and it seems it's this one that is the most popular atm. i just find it really odd...it's there to shock foremost. i don't see the passion, but maybe that's just bad acting. oh well |
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mmm.. i didn't consider that but yes, actually there is a scene is a us movie where a professor that liked... mmm.. to catalog bugs if i rember well marry a student of him then starts a project aim to cosider sex as a free pratice between everyone, couples included, in a proibitionism age.. i'm not sure what i'm saying btw, for me the most exciting scene and the only one i remember (with a creepy one where a teen fucks a 70+) was one in which you can't see the the two fucking, but just the eyes of the woman truly in love with him. for the record he wasn't her husband, but a random guy taking part of the experiment. |
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^ a lot of typos up there |
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right. you make a film about sex, im fine with that. but to build a film on a sex scene that's something i don't get. first the start, blah blah, then the sex scene, and ends with blah blah. maybe i have a problem with it because it's so popular and i hate popular : - ) |
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but you like popular music ;) |
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yeah, i put it wrong. i like popular, just not hyped. hype i can't take. with few exceptions..like aphex twin, because he's fun! |
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haha.. watching aphex twin having sex sounds pretty disgusting though! |
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if kusturica directed it, it wouldn't be that bad maybe. |
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Black cat, White cat is good only if you see it once, his other movies I wasn't even able to finish watching them. Also real life gypsies... I like to stay the fuck away from them at all costs. |
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where i live there are many gypsies cos the city has to give them some money when they stops. this cos once a gypsies queen married an italian queen that made that law, now i'm explaining you with miserable words something i don't really know but that's the main deal. i also try to stay away from their caravans in the park down here but watching that movie gave me different perspectives than just a question mark, when i see a children smiling at me. btw, the blonde girl in Black cat, White cat is just so beautiful. |
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* italian king |
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* assorted mistakes |
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Yeah she was really cute, the midget wasn't too bad either :D A friend of mine who works in that region, I asked if he ever went to Romania and he told me it was a very poor country, he said to my surprise that it was not too far from the Kusturica movies! I'm sure that there are regions that are more developed than others but because rural people have access to modern items and commodities it creates that crazy contrast that we see in Black Cat White Cat. |
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yup, when they spoke about the midget sister i thought she was really ugly but the first time she appeared in the movie i've had the same thought =D and i enjoyed that crazy contrast with technology you talk about, too. aren't kusturica's ones balkan gypsies? can't say that people from romania is doing good around here though, they're mainly desperate people imported by the local mafia to do the dirtiest works =( |
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Yes there are two etnicies of gypsies the Balkan ones that originated from Romania and the ones that came from India/Pakistan, I get to see the two, I think both are seen in Kusturica movies. Yes the Balkans make an effort to integrate in society as the Hindu gypsies live by their own set of rules and costumes which clash totally by any modern society standards. |
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thanks for the info =) i thought they probably mix themselves with nomads from the middle east since some of them have arab names and for the common lines they have in music, especially talking about percussions. |
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i thought they all had the same origins.. but then again all people have same origin. |
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it appears they indeed are of the same |
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ah! i can finally see why darbuka is widely played on Egypt, Turkey and Balkans as well. thank you Goran =) |
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yesterday i surprisingly stumbled upon "Life Is a Miracle"(2004) on italian tv, stopped watching after half an hour. you was right there's no comparison with the old ones he made, even Vesna Trivalic was not that kind of a deal. |
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i haven't seen that one. you should see if you haven't seen it yet. that one was nice. but ofcourse there's plenty of other directors/films you should check out before that : ) |
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They may have had the same origins but they set apart over the years, there are gypsy families that don't like each other let alone gypsies from different regions, I have neighbors that are gypsies, the ones that live in the wild are much worse to socialize with, they even try to sell their kids hence why you often see parents with black hair and tanned skin but their sons are blond, there's lot of messed up stuff that they consider their culture like marring 13 year girls with guys over 25, I guess the arranged marriages are part of the Indian background. As for Underground it didn't grab me so I never finished watching, definitely not as colorful as Black Cat White Cat. |
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a lot of shit happens in the civilized world too |
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yeah, they (as anyone else i imagine) definitelly have very different life styles..some are 'socialised' some aren't. it's exaplained rather well in that wikipedia article.. as for podzemlje..i think knowing the language makes quite a bit difference. serbian language just works so well in movies..i imagine better than any other language. definitelly way better than english. it's not just language..it's the culture, people, mentality..i love it : ) |
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(no post read)my words on Emir Kusturica. awesome,human,funny and creative. good relashionship betwen images,words and music. |
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