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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-02-05 03:58 [#00541575]
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I have only heard few NIN tracks but I like them all basicly.
I have never downloaded a whole album or heard a whole album.
I'm going to order my first NIN-album, but what should it be?
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-02-05 03:59 [#00541578]
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btw...
my fav. NIN-tracks
Perfect Drug March of Pigs Closer Wish
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 03:59 [#00541579]
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'Sky Valley'
oh... wait....
Well I'd say either 'Pretty Hate Machine' or 'The Downward Spiral'
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-05 04:00 [#00541581]
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in my opinion you should get The Downward Spiral
or Pretty Hate Machine
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-05 04:02 [#00541585]
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if you like wish a lot, you should also get the Broken ep
that is briliant
okay here's a run down
Pretty Hate Machine = classic NIN, 80's sounding
Broken ep = his most sinister sounding work, very sinister sounding indeed (in my opinion)
Downward Spiral = VERY industrial
The Fragile = he's calming down a bit...but still great album
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-05 04:04 [#00541588]
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Perfect Drug is from the soundtrack to Lost Highway
March Of The Pigs and Closer is from The Downward Spiral
and Wish is from Broken ep
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-02-05 04:46 [#00541617]
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further down the spiral
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 04:52 [#00541620]
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I have a shitload of NIN CDs. I have halo 1 to 15 I think. I didn't get the new live CD as ... *shrugs* fuck it. I just didn't go for it. The Downward Spiral is the best to start with I think. Then get Further Down The Spiral and that will do until you wish to explore more.
Broken EP is fantastic. 'Come come come come you gotta fill me up' Love it. }:>
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Lust Incarnate
from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-02-05 04:54 [#00541622]
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Pretty Hate Machine. I think that if you arent familiar with an artist, you should start with their first album. *nods head* Usually. Either that or the Downward Spiral (my favorite!) :D
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 04:59 [#00541627]
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I have a 12" promo of Starfuckers as the A side. I like that track but my problem with NIN is it gets plaid to death. I've heard Closer so many times I can hear it at will in full detail by focusing my mind and Starfuckers is getting to be the same.
I'm not into NIN much and my large collection of their stuff is gathering dust.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-02-05 05:03 [#00541629]
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I had the "fixed" ep once....remix of broken, but I thought it sucked
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-02-05 05:08 [#00541633]
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I recommend the live album And All That Could Have Been..it's a great primer with all the essential tracks from all the releases(a notable omission is Hapiness in Slavery which I really dig)
and though it is a live album the production is crisp and crystal clear making even the songs from Pretty Hate Machine sound Huuuge...and the live crowd noise are only there at the begining of the tracks and then cleverly filtered out..
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-05 05:13 [#00541636]
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Definitely get Pretty Hate Machine--here's why: 01) It was produced by flood in the late 80's. 02) It's the most one-man of his records. 03) Every track is top-notch, while other records have some disappointing ones.
04) You don't have to put up with those insufferable guitars! :D
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 05:15 [#00541640]
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My unbiased opinion...
Pretty Hate Machine = Think 80's. Broken = ESSENTIAL Fixed = shit Downward Spiral = BUY IT Further... = stick to the singles from Spiral (Closer, March of the Pigs...)
The Fragile = Not bad but if you love the earlier stuff it may disappoint you...
Things Falling Apart = Only for the track "METAL". The rest is shit.
:)
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-02-05 05:17 [#00541641]
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I love Fixed..the Tracks remixed by Coil and Foetus..sound godlike..
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 05:18 [#00541643]
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I dunno, i found that EP a tad repetitive...
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-05 05:19 [#00541645]
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I like fixed, too! I'm not one for slave screams, but the rest are brilliant variations!
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-05 05:22 [#00541649]
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It'd be hard to get into nails with a remix record, though, simply because he doesn't do most of the remixes and they all vary so much from the originals (except head like a hole(slate), i believe)
And hurt(quiet), actually :) I definitely recommend PHM first. The tracks will familiarize you with who Trent Reznor is, and then you'll probably like the others more. PHM is easily my favorite debut album of all time.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-05 05:26 [#00541655]
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screaming slave is fucking brilliant
you shouldn't listen to screaming slave and expect it to be "music" as such, because to me, the whole point of screaming slave is that it's literally an expression
there's not meant to be structure to it or anything
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 05:26 [#00541656]
Points: 4176 Status: Regular | Followup to Fernz: #00541643
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I'm with you on this dude. I'd listen more to see if it would grow on me but the sheer amount of times 'Starfuckers' is remixed on that is laughable to me. It seemed half assed compared to other remix CDs he has had out and such. I'm just not into NIN as much as I was I guess. I didn't like that CD at all really.
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Spookyluke
from United States on 2003-02-05 05:28 [#00541662]
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No, I can appreciate that it's noise, it's just not my taste. :)
Why do people not like things being remixed multiple times? I've never understood that. I don't see what's wrong with ten remixes of the same track! :)
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 05:30 [#00541664]
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Mind you The Frail(version) wasnt too bad. I still managed to find all Halo numbers except that Closure vid... Just to fill the collection. I still say his cover of Soft Cell's MEMORIBILIA was decent. :)
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-05 05:33 [#00541673]
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the only starfuckers inc mix i liked was charlie's
it's fucking brililant
i liked things falling apart, it was okay, but there were a couple of dud tracks on there
i mean, one of the starfuckers at the beginning sounded like something sonique would do! lol
i expected to hear her singing "and that's what takes me high"
and another thing......you can't go by the remix cd's as NIN work because altthough Trent probably produces them, it's not really trent is it?
you should only really stick to actual nin material
Pretty Hate Machine Broken The Downward Spiral The Fragile And All That Could Have Been
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 05:37 [#00541682]
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Id reccomend And All That Could Have Been, Still. Its so nice...
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-02-05 05:39 [#00541688]
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i say definately get pretty hate machine and broken, those two are my favs of his. downward gets me real depressed. fragile is an awesome album too, but start with the earlier stuff.
fernz - get closure (if you still dig nin enough to watch ~2 hrs. of sick shit) it will blow your mind
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-05 05:39 [#00541689]
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i love the deconstructed version of The Becoming
it sounds so different
but i can't get used to not hearing the ARP 2600 near the end
:(
i FUCKING love that synth patch!
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-05 05:40 [#00541691]
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they never released a PAL version of closure for us in the UK
:(
any more news on the DVD of Closure?
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 05:43 [#00541694]
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Never released it here... I wouldnt mind seeing the movie they made for the Broken EP........ :)
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-05 05:45 [#00541696]
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i've seen a REALLY bad quality digitisation of it
(it was copied digitally from a VHS)
very pixelated, and a bit fuzzy at some parts, but it sums up the feeling and atmosphere of Broken totally
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 05:45 [#00541697]
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Closure is fucking mint, I have that and love it to bits! :> even now i'd like that but the NTSC format was a little bit of a pain. Easy to get around tho. My playstation is NTSC too. :>
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 05:47 [#00541698]
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My vid plays NTSC... just a shame I cant get hold of that release tho.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 05:49 [#00541701]
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You can have mine for £500 }:> Did you try ebay and such dude?
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 05:51 [#00541703]
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£500? If only. :p
Ebay? Never thought of that. *slaps himself on head* :)
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 05:56 [#00541712]
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Yeah, then you can get it for £750 from there. }:>
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-05 05:58 [#00541714]
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spikee
what do you think about the CD and Video versions of Gave Up?
which do you prefer?
i prefer the video version of Gave Up....i just think it sounds rawer and more powerful
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 05:58 [#00541715]
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or 50 pence if someone forgets to put 'ULTRA RARE APHEX TWIN SQUAREPUSHER LOOOOKKFUDFJGNDFGNDUINIDFNGIDSN' in the fucking title description the cunts.
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Fernz
from A Scottish Wanker (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 05:58 [#00541716]
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God dammit. LOL. :)
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 05:59 [#00541718]
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Meh? I tried, I gave up. I can't remember two versions. I was into these pretty much as they came out so it's a long time ago. :>
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-05 06:01 [#00541721]
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well, the cd starts off with that ambient atmospheric drone, then the drums come in, and then vocals and synth
whereas the video version is fucking brilliant synth, then drums, then vocals
i just prefer the video version
:)
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 06:02 [#00541725]
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Is the video for Sin the one with the two guys kissing and Trent spinning around on a wheel? I loved that. The version of Sin on the EP has much more power then the album version but Pretty Hate Machine is a very beautiful yet slightly bitter album. I relate well. The demo tape he had out before that had 'Twist' on also which I fucking adore. Hmm, my lust for NIN is being rekindled.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 06:05 [#00541730]
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Hmm, I only remember the one on the Broken EP. The live version of Hurt with David Bowie is unsurpassable to my ears tho. :>
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-05 06:07 [#00541732]
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i think so, i've only seen screengrabs of Sin (don't have Closure) but from what you said about the spinning wheel, taht's definately Sin
Sin is probably my fave off PHM
he couldn't release Twist though TVT Records, because of the self-harming stuff, so he had to change it to Ringfinger
that's what started off the "hate" he had for the label (seen in Broken "no thanks, you know who you fucking are")
and which is why he started his own label
whilst recording the material for Broken, he had to use flase band names and psudomyms so TVT wouldn't catch on
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-05 06:07 [#00541733]
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i HAVE to hear that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:(
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 06:11 [#00541737]
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You.... *pricks his ears* It's one of the fucking best man... I'll upload it for you tonight. Don't let me forget, I can't get over you not hearing this... I'll upload it but you can prolly get it off SS.
I need to stop posting soon, over stimulating a spikee dragon is a bad idea. }:> starting to get hyper.
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-05 06:13 [#00541741]
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lol
i'm sorry, me not mean to aggitate you
i can't get on soulseek (primarily because i can only use work computers and i'm not allowed to install apps, secondarily, the firewall might block it, and three, i dunno how to use soulseek!)
if you could get it on something like elusives ftp, i could try and get it from there (if anyone EVER gives me the addy for it!)
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oscillik
from the fires of orc on 2003-02-05 06:16 [#00541743]
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i really wanna get into some Bowie stuff
my mom bought Heathen a while back and it's FUCKING amazing, from a lyrical, and a technical point of view
she's also got one of the many "best of" kinda things with his older stuff on
that's really good :)
and i loved the Reznor/Bowie collaboration with I'm Afraid Of Americans
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 06:21 [#00541751]
Points: 4176 Status: Regular | Followup to oscillik: #00541743
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The NIN ver of IAOA is poop (imo). Get the Earthling album by David Bowie if you don't have it. It's close to NIN style and very cool. It has the original of IAOA on too.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-05 06:22 [#00541752]
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what kind of nonsense is that www.nin.com ? is that just the site? is there any way to enter or something?
:\
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-05 06:23 [#00541754]
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silly-ass morton didn't see the 'acces' thingy :\
whoops :P
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-05 06:23 [#00541755]
Points: 4176 Status: Regular | Followup to oscillik: #00541741
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If I post too much I get excitable is all. Not your fault, tis mine for not doing my work. :>
I'll ensure I get that track up for you in a place you can download it from.
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